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    Advance Mess and BBC Micro and joystick control

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      teller @spud11
      last edited by teller

      @spud11 Good idea!
      But if I try key_capslock I get
      CHAIN load

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        spud11 @teller
        last edited by spud11

        @teller Ok. Repeat the capslock command in your script_play so that it is capitalised again and make sure you use the "2" to create the quotations. Have a look at some of my scripts in the other thread.

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          spud11 @teller
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          @teller In fact, here are my scripts for you:

          
          bbcb/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_l,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_d,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_l,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_d,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_chuckie]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(200); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_u,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_k,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_g,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_g,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,50); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_thrust]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_u,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_elite]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_quote,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_1,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_b,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_chuckie]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(200); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_u,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_k,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_g,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_g,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,50); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_elite]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_quote,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_1,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_b,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_thrust]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_u,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_repton]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_l,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_d,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_repton]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_l,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_d,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_tempest]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_m,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_p,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_tempest]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_m,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_p,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_meteors]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_m,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_meteors]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_m,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_t,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_snapper]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_p,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_snapper]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_c,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_h,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_i,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_space,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_s,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_a,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_p,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_loderunner]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_quote,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_u,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(100); simulate_key(key_space,100); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_l,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_d,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          
          bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_loderunner]/script_play delay(750); simulate_key(key_scrlock,75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_quote,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_r,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_u,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_n,75); delay(100); simulate_key(key_space,100); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_l,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_o,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_d,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_e,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_2,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_capslock,75); delay(75); simulate_key(key_enter,75); delay(75);
          

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            teller
            last edited by

            That trick with double capslock didn't work either.
            Thanks for your scripts.
            I also tested your default script_play commands on my system.
            All I get is
            CHAIN 2load2
            do you have different keyboard settings? I didn't change anything in raspi-config.

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              spud11 @teller
              last edited by

              @teller I think you may have capslock on automatically. That can be the only explanation if using one of my scripts switches you to small letters when you "press" capslock.

              Leave the capslock out and just use the "2" key to create the quotations (capslock + 2 should create quotations).

              It's probably the difference between the UK-style keyboard and the US-style keyboard. The BBC Micro was a UK computer. I'm using a US-style keyboard. On my US-style keyboard, the quotation key appears next to the enter key. However, in order to create quotations using the capslock on the BBC Micro, I need to press the "2" key. I figured this out by trial and error by just typing various keys.

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                teller
                last edited by teller

                Yeah, must be a keyboard setup difference.
                Or it could be that we use a different Acorn DFS Basic ROM?
                But if I have another game that uses capslock, then the autoboot won't work as well.
                THRUST uses capslock if I remember.

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                  spud11 @teller
                  last edited by

                  @teller Possibly. Advmess is a mess indeed.

                  You could have separate scripts for Sabre Wulf and for Thrust - one that uses capslock and one that doesn't.

                  Worst case, remove all the scripts, start a BBC Micro game, attach your keyboard to the Pi (or use a bluetooth keyboard) and experiment by pressing keys with or without capslock/shift to see what comes up on the BBC. That's what I ended up doing for a few of my scripts, particularly because I found the * was in a completely different location on the BBC from where it was on my keyboard.

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                    teller @spud11
                    last edited by teller

                    @spud11 found the right key to get " working ! i need to press alt + 2, then I'll get "

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                      teller
                      last edited by teller

                      Shift for Thrust doesn't work on my joystick although it's mapped correctly.

                      bbcb[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_thrust]/input_map[key_shift] joystick_button[046d_c219,a]
                      

                      the autoboot script has no shift command in use.
                      i don't know why, advmess is driving me crazy!

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                        spud11 @teller
                        last edited by

                        @teller In my advmess.rc file, I have:

                        input_map[key_lshift] keyboard[0,lshift] or joystick_button[0079_0006_3,2]
                        input_map[key_rshift] keyboard[0,rshift]
                        input_map[key_shift] auto
                        bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_thrust]/input_map[key_lshift] joystick_button[0079_0006_3,2] or keyboard[0,lshift]
                        bbcbp128[home_pi_retropie_roms_bbcmicro_thrust]/input_map[key_rshift] joystick_button[0079_0006_3,2] or keyboard[0,lshift]
                        

                        Obviously, the joystick buttons will be different for you. There's unfortunately not a lot of consistency overall between everyone's setups, so experimentation is probably the only way to get there.

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