Chicuelo Theme
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Yep, I believe all of those systems you mention are in my list a couple of posts up as ones I suggest to be added first to complete the theme. SFC, SuperGrafx and Famicom are all variations of systems that are already supported. It's up to @chicuelo whether he wants to add those in at some point. They would need new logos and some would also require new controllers to be created.
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Hi!
So I have spent some time manipulating/putting together logos and making theme.xml files (including details + description) for some of the systems I mentioned in a previous post above, hope this is ok! I have pushed to my master which automagically has updated my outstanding PR to get these added in.
I know these systems do not have artwork/controllers yet, but at least it means people running them will get a logo and description which is good. Obviously then you can pick and choose which systems you decide to create a background and controller for (in case you do not plan to support some of the more obscure ones). Maybe systems you decide to not support (in terms of custom artwork), maybe it's worthwhile to come up with a placeholder or generic background for these instead of a blank image? Unless you plan to do them all eventually of course!! :)
I noticed some systems already have logo+theme but no bg/controller (like intellivision, etc), I know these are coming soon - so I just filled in the blanks. I haven't made logos/descriptions for any of the system 'variations' or non-defaults yet.
The logos I made are fine I think, but obviously feel free to improve some of them further if you think it's necessary.
Here are the systems I added logos and a theme.xml for (with all details and a description for each):
sg-1000 (SEGA SG-1000 game console)
videopac (Videopac game console)
nds (Nintendo DS handheld console)
wii (Nintendo Wii console)
ps2 (Sony Playstation 2 console)
pcfx (PC-FX NEC game console)
msx (MSX home computer)
macintosh (Apple Macintosh personal computer)
dragon32 (Dragon 32/64 home computer)
x68000 (Sharp x68000 machine)
coco (Tandy Colour Computer)
oric (Oric home computer)
pc88 (PC 8800 computer series)
samcoupe (Sam Coupe home computer)
ti99 (Texas Instruments TI-99/4A home computer)
trs-80 (Tandy TRS-80 home computer)
mess (MESS hardware emulator)
zmachine (Infocom Z-Machine emulator for adventure games)Hope this helps!
Cheers
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Just added variation logos and theme.xml files for Odyssey2 (alt. to videopac) and TG-16 (alt. to pcengine).
I copied the PC-Engine character background for TG-16 (no need for that to be different?), but the TG-16 does have a different controller, so this would need to be created.
Again, my PR should auto update.
Thanks!
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Hi guys! I was out for some days, I have already merged that changes and going to look forward on the new systems!
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@movisman @cloudlink
For Famicom we can use Family disk system, they are pretty similar! -
@movisman
I update the xml on my setup and I find an issue with the controllers sizes with this tag <size>0.275 0.4</size>
The controllers look stretched on 1920x1080 resolution, I think this forces the png to fit this proportions and make a strange display on screen
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Hi,
Hope you are good! That's odd - it looks totally fine for me on the 'stock' version updated via RetroPie-Setup. I am running 1920 x 1080 also.
Are you absolutely certain your version you are running has the 'new' controller PNG sizes?
I updated the theme to the very latest and it still looks great in 1080p and 720p for me. All controllers look perfect. If the controllers on your build are anything but 528 x 432 they will be distorted. They have to be 528 x 432 in order to look correct, this will then look nice across both resolutions.
Could you check on your side?
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@chicuelo said in Chicuelo Theme:
@movisman @cloudlink
For Famicom we can use Family disk system, they are pretty similar!Yes, perfect - I notice Famicom has the same controller as Family disk system, so that's easy and can use the same background image. The same goes for Mega-CD (Sega-CD). I will get these created this evening and raise a PR, it's an easy update.
Regarding Super Famicom (SFC), which is another common 'alternative', this one has a different controller, in terms of logo and the button colours. Do you want to go to the trouble of creating another controller for this, or just use the SNES one? Again all alternatives should use the same background image as their parent version.
Also, if you have chance while I remember - could you create a logo to replace the 'collections' one I put up? I based it on Carbon and it doesn't match the font you used for 'all games', 'last played', etc. I didn't have the font available that was required at the time. It also needs a very basic background creating similar to the 'all games', 'last played' ones.
The only other bit to do from the work I did is TG-16 needs a controller creating in order to be complete. I used the PC Engine background as they are the same system but the controller is a different colour for TG-16. In addition, there are another 3 or so alternatives to PC Engine (pce-cd, supergrafx and tg-cd), but I dunno if you want to create these or not bother for now. I think it's worth having TG-16 though.
Thanks!
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@movisman said in Chicuelo Theme:
Hi,
Hope you are good! That's odd - it looks totally fine for me on the 'stock' version updated via RetroPie-Setup. I am running 1920 x 1080 also.
Are you absolutely certain your version you are running has the 'new' controller PNG sizes?
I updated the theme to the very latest and it still looks great in 1080p and 720p for me. All controllers look perfect. If the controllers on your build are anything but 528 x 432 they will be distorted. They have to be 528 x 432 in order to look correct, this will then look nice across both resolutions.
Could you check on your side?
Ohh! I think you are right, the controllers must be the issue. I had a different theme setup for my due the indicators and I did not update the controllers png!
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@movisman
Great, I will create that logo and update the controller for TG 16 -
Fantastic. In the meantime I will make some duplicates for Famicom and Mega-CD and raise a PR.
I would help with creating some controllers, but I would need to know exactly which filters/effects etc, and how much applied to each in order for them to be consistent with your existing images. Also, I am using Inkscape on this machine as I don't currently have Illustrator. If you can give me some info I can always try to create a few if I can locate a good source for the image. If you would rather do them yourself that's also fine! I will leave the artwork to you though as I wouldn't be able to create anything as high quality as what you have done. :)
Thanks!
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Ah ha I see you already did Famicom - nice one! :) although I will just edit the theme.xml description as it's the same as the FDS, which isn't quite right.
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Yes, and I updated the tg16 controller too.
I work with photoshop because it handles better the pixels than illustrator so dont worry about that. I would create all the controllers and characters! -
That's absolutely fine, no worries. For some reason I assumed you were using illustrator because of working with SVG files for controllers. I used to use Photoshop a lot more so if you do need any help with controllers I may be able to do so, however it may be easier if you take care of the controllers and backgrounds.
PR raised to add MegaCD variation and adjust famicom text.
Cheers
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I wonder for a "custom collection" background (thanks for creating the logo btw), if you could use a similar background to the auto-xxxx images, a bit like the favorites one with the cartridge? Or maybe a collection of console software boxes or cartridges? Sort of like this:
http://i0.wp.com/www.retrogamescollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/20120709_203920.jpg
or this:
http://i2.wp.com/www.retrogamescollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/20120709_212807.jpgObviously not exactly like that but was just a random idea of what you could potentially do.
Also, I have a proposal for the Amiga and Atari-ST background images. Currently Zool is the Atari-ST image, but actually Zool was released for the Amiga first and ported to the ST. It was also more of an 'Amiga' mascot in my opinion. The Amiga image is currently a version of Turrican. Turrican was more of a multi system game (it was released on many systems), although it was very popular on systems like Atari ST, Amiga, C64. It was actually developed for the C64 first, and then ported to other systems later.
I was wondering if you would be happy to switch these images around. So Zool for Amiga, and Turrican for ST? I think it would be a better way round.
Thanks
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@movisman said in Chicuelo Theme:
Also, I have a proposal for the Amiga and Atari-ST background images. Currently Zool is the Atari-ST image, but actually Zool was released for the Amiga first and ported to the ST. It was also more of an 'Amiga' mascot in my opinion. The Amiga image is currently a version of Turrican. Turrican was more of a multi system game (it was released on so many systems), although it was very popular on systems like Atari ST, Amiga, C64.
I was wondering if you would be happy to switch these images around. So Zool for Amiga, and Turrican for ST? I think it would be a better way round.
Thanks
I agree with that. Another suggestion from me would be Superfrog as Amiga mascot, which got an HD remake i believe so it should be possible to get some good images.
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And this is also an excellent idea, I absolutely agree with you. Superfrog and Zool were two major Amiga mascots most probably. The only slight downside is @chicuelo having to do a new Amiga image, but you are quite right it got an HD remake which means there will be excellent imagery out there. And I think that's even better having Superfrog for Amiga, and Zool for ST.
If I had a preference, I would say:
- Amiga = new superfrog image in place of Turrican (which could be used for another computer system), ST = leave as Zool
- Swap current Amiga and ST ones around (Amiga = Zool, ST = Turrican)
Having a quick look now, there are quite a lot of Superfrog character images with transparent or white backgrounds which I think you could just lift into a blurred in-game background. Check this out:
https://wasahiro.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/superfroglogo_frog.pngThere are also plenty of old in-game Amiga shots which could easily be blurred to be placed behind, eg:
https://thecompany.pl/res/gra/1375712828-Superfrog-2.pngetc, etc.
I reckon this is perfect for an Amiga image.
Do you think you could do this @chicuelo ?
Thanks!
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@movisman
The controller files are transparent PNG, maded with photoshop, Illustrator was used only for the logos that they are svg vector files
I will look foward to those suggestions! But I think better finish all those remaining systems and then modify them! -
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Yes I figured that would be the case. No worries about finishing the other systems first, I think that's a good idea. Thanks for swapping the images over, I think that is much better. Also thanks for optimising the Spectrum image - looks fantastic!
Having a quick think I believe these bits are some of the outstanding artwork to be completed:
- Background required for "custom-collections"
- A new controller to be made for Super Famicom (sfc), plus theme and logo (which I can do). Alternative to SNES, would use the same background. I wonder if you could adapt the existing SNES controller but change the button colours and logo. That would be most of the "common" variations complete then. Here is an image comparing the two - http://i.imgur.com/b3UOB4D.jpg
- Amiga background "perhaps" to be changed to Superfrog (if time allows, but very low priority until theme is complete)
Plus the new systems (whichever ones you choose to support) I mentioned back in post #455:
- controller and background required, I previously completed all logos and theme.xml descriptions for these.
Also, if ok with you I will work on the documentation/readme a bit more at some point and provide some additional info such as:
- instructions on how to change to a system variation (eg change from pcengine to tg16)
- add in some additional links such as hyperlinks to this forum post and tidy some bits and pieces up a little further
- expand on the features of the theme a bit
- potentially add in all missing systems as 'partially supported' as there is a description and logo in place for everything now
- add some notes on widescreen resolution support (i might - when i have time see if i can get the theme looking ok in 4:3 with a letterbox above and below, without needing to have a second theme for 4:3)
Let me know if there is anything else you would like me to look at.
Cheers!
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