Chicuelo Theme

chicuelo

Hi guys! I was out for some days, I have already merged that changes and going to look forward on the new systems!

chicuelo

@movisman @cloudlink
For Famicom we can use Family disk system, they are pretty similar!

chicuelo

@movisman
I update the xml on my setup and I find an issue with the controllers sizes with this tag <size>0.275 0.4</size>
The controllers look stretched on 1920x1080 resolution, I think this forces the png to fit this proportions and make a strange display on screen

movisman

@chicuelo

Hi,

Hope you are good! That's odd - it looks totally fine for me on the 'stock' version updated via RetroPie-Setup. I am running 1920 x 1080 also.

Are you absolutely certain your version you are running has the 'new' controller PNG sizes?

I updated the theme to the very latest and it still looks great in 1080p and 720p for me. All controllers look perfect. If the controllers on your build are anything but 528 x 432 they will be distorted. They have to be 528 x 432 in order to look correct, this will then look nice across both resolutions.

Could you check on your side?

movisman

@chicuelo said in Chicuelo Theme:

@movisman @cloudlink
For Famicom we can use Family disk system, they are pretty similar!

Yes, perfect - I notice Famicom has the same controller as Family disk system, so that's easy and can use the same background image. The same goes for Mega-CD (Sega-CD). I will get these created this evening and raise a PR, it's an easy update.

Regarding Super Famicom (SFC), which is another common 'alternative', this one has a different controller, in terms of logo and the button colours. Do you want to go to the trouble of creating another controller for this, or just use the SNES one? Again all alternatives should use the same background image as their parent version.

Also, if you have chance while I remember - could you create a logo to replace the 'collections' one I put up? I based it on Carbon and it doesn't match the font you used for 'all games', 'last played', etc. I didn't have the font available that was required at the time. It also needs a very basic background creating similar to the 'all games', 'last played' ones.

The only other bit to do from the work I did is TG-16 needs a controller creating in order to be complete. I used the PC Engine background as they are the same system but the controller is a different colour for TG-16. In addition, there are another 3 or so alternatives to PC Engine (pce-cd, supergrafx and tg-cd), but I dunno if you want to create these or not bother for now. I think it's worth having TG-16 though.

Thanks!

chicuelo

@movisman said in Chicuelo Theme:

@chicuelo

Hi,

Hope you are good! That's odd - it looks totally fine for me on the 'stock' version updated via RetroPie-Setup. I am running 1920 x 1080 also.

Are you absolutely certain your version you are running has the 'new' controller PNG sizes?

I updated the theme to the very latest and it still looks great in 1080p and 720p for me. All controllers look perfect. If the controllers on your build are anything but 528 x 432 they will be distorted. They have to be 528 x 432 in order to look correct, this will then look nice across both resolutions.

Could you check on your side?

Ohh! I think you are right, the controllers must be the issue. I had a different theme setup for my due the indicators and I did not update the controllers png!

chicuelo

@movisman
Great, I will create that logo and update the controller for TG 16

movisman

@chicuelo

Fantastic. In the meantime I will make some duplicates for Famicom and Mega-CD and raise a PR.

I would help with creating some controllers, but I would need to know exactly which filters/effects etc, and how much applied to each in order for them to be consistent with your existing images. Also, I am using Inkscape on this machine as I don't currently have Illustrator. If you can give me some info I can always try to create a few if I can locate a good source for the image. If you would rather do them yourself that's also fine! I will leave the artwork to you though as I wouldn't be able to create anything as high quality as what you have done. :)

Thanks!

movisman

@movisman

Ah ha I see you already did Famicom - nice one! :) although I will just edit the theme.xml description as it's the same as the FDS, which isn't quite right.

chicuelo

@movisman

Yes, and I updated the tg16 controller too.
I work with photoshop because it handles better the pixels than illustrator so dont worry about that. I would create all the controllers and characters!

movisman

@chicuelo

That's absolutely fine, no worries. For some reason I assumed you were using illustrator because of working with SVG files for controllers. I used to use Photoshop a lot more so if you do need any help with controllers I may be able to do so, however it may be easier if you take care of the controllers and backgrounds.

PR raised to add MegaCD variation and adjust famicom text.

Cheers

movisman

@chicuelo

I wonder for a "custom collection" background (thanks for creating the logo btw), if you could use a similar background to the auto-xxxx images, a bit like the favorites one with the cartridge? Or maybe a collection of console software boxes or cartridges? Sort of like this:
http://i0.wp.com/www.retrogamescollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/20120709_203920.jpg
or this:
http://i2.wp.com/www.retrogamescollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/20120709_212807.jpg

Obviously not exactly like that but was just a random idea of what you could potentially do.

Also, I have a proposal for the Amiga and Atari-ST background images. Currently Zool is the Atari-ST image, but actually Zool was released for the Amiga first and ported to the ST. It was also more of an 'Amiga' mascot in my opinion. The Amiga image is currently a version of Turrican. Turrican was more of a multi system game (it was released on many systems), although it was very popular on systems like Atari ST, Amiga, C64. It was actually developed for the C64 first, and then ported to other systems later.

I was wondering if you would be happy to switch these images around. So Zool for Amiga, and Turrican for ST? I think it would be a better way round.

Thanks

EctoOne

@movisman said in Chicuelo Theme:

Also, I have a proposal for the Amiga and Atari-ST background images. Currently Zool is the Atari-ST image, but actually Zool was released for the Amiga first and ported to the ST. It was also more of an 'Amiga' mascot in my opinion. The Amiga image is currently a version of Turrican. Turrican was more of a multi system game (it was released on so many systems), although it was very popular on systems like Atari ST, Amiga, C64.

I was wondering if you would be happy to switch these images around. So Zool for Amiga, and Turrican for ST? I think it would be a better way round.

Thanks

I agree with that. Another suggestion from me would be Superfrog as Amiga mascot, which got an HD remake i believe so it should be possible to get some good images.

movisman

@ectoone

And this is also an excellent idea, I absolutely agree with you. Superfrog and Zool were two major Amiga mascots most probably. The only slight downside is @chicuelo having to do a new Amiga image, but you are quite right it got an HD remake which means there will be excellent imagery out there. And I think that's even better having Superfrog for Amiga, and Zool for ST.

If I had a preference, I would say:

Amiga = new superfrog image in place of Turrican (which could be used for another computer system), ST = leave as Zool
Swap current Amiga and ST ones around (Amiga = Zool, ST = Turrican)

Having a quick look now, there are quite a lot of Superfrog character images with transparent or white backgrounds which I think you could just lift into a blurred in-game background. Check this out:
https://wasahiro.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/superfroglogo_frog.png

There are also plenty of old in-game Amiga shots which could easily be blurred to be placed behind, eg:
https://thecompany.pl/res/gra/1375712828-Superfrog-2.png

etc, etc.

I reckon this is perfect for an Amiga image.

Do you think you could do this @chicuelo ?

Thanks!

chicuelo

@movisman
The controller files are transparent PNG, maded with photoshop, Illustrator was used only for the logos that they are svg vector files
I will look foward to those suggestions! But I think better finish all those remaining systems and then modify them!

chicuelo

@movisman @EctoOne
Guy, I have already switched amiga and ST characters. Maybe when I finish the remaining themes I will update Amiga with superfrog

movisman

@chicuelo

Yes I figured that would be the case. No worries about finishing the other systems first, I think that's a good idea. Thanks for swapping the images over, I think that is much better. Also thanks for optimising the Spectrum image - looks fantastic!

Having a quick think I believe these bits are some of the outstanding artwork to be completed:

Background required for "custom-collections"
A new controller to be made for Super Famicom (sfc), plus theme and logo (which I can do). Alternative to SNES, would use the same background. I wonder if you could adapt the existing SNES controller but change the button colours and logo. That would be most of the "common" variations complete then. Here is an image comparing the two - http://i.imgur.com/b3UOB4D.jpg
Amiga background "perhaps" to be changed to Superfrog (if time allows, but very low priority until theme is complete)

Plus the new systems (whichever ones you choose to support) I mentioned back in post #455:

controller and background required, I previously completed all logos and theme.xml descriptions for these.

Also, if ok with you I will work on the documentation/readme a bit more at some point and provide some additional info such as:

instructions on how to change to a system variation (eg change from pcengine to tg16)
add in some additional links such as hyperlinks to this forum post and tidy some bits and pieces up a little further
expand on the features of the theme a bit
potentially add in all missing systems as 'partially supported' as there is a description and logo in place for everything now
add some notes on widescreen resolution support (i might - when i have time see if i can get the theme looking ok in 4:3 with a letterbox above and below, without needing to have a second theme for 4:3)

Let me know if there is anything else you would like me to look at.

Cheers!

chicuelo

@movisman
Sounds great, I will work on the systems you mentioned and add super famicom controller too.
Go ahead with the readme if you want

EctoOne

@movisman said in Chicuelo Theme:

A new controller to be made for Super Famicom (sfc), plus theme and logo (which I can do). Alternative to SNES, would use the same background. I wonder if you could adapt the existing SNES controller but change the button colours and logo. That would be most of the "common" variations complete then. Here is an image comparing the two - http://i.imgur.com/b3UOB4D.jpg

mhm, I think there is another controller layout for the PAL version. One that has colored buttons and the Super Nintendo Logo. LIke this one. So I'm not sure if this one also should be added, I would prefer it though.

movisman

@ectoone

Hi,

Ah, not sure if you misunderstood me - the one you linked to is already in the theme as SNES, and this isn't changing.

The one I proposed is for an alternative system in case people want to use the Super Famicom imagery+logo instead of the PAL System. A bit like Famicom/NES, etc.

The current SNES images will all remain the same.