The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

SuperFromND

Gah, beat me to the punch!

To give a brief summary:

There's now three different options for RAM size: 1GB, 2GB, and 4GB. Not really sure if RetroPie is gonna benefit from having that much RAM, but it's nice to have nonetheless. (Note that the 1GB model will cost 35 dollars, the 2GB model will cost 45 dollars, and the 4GB model will cost 55 dollars.)
CPU is a quad-core Cortex-A72 running at 1.5ghz by default (a 0.3ghz upgrade, and total CPU upgrade, from the Pi 3).
Two of the front USB ports are now USB 3.0, meaning faster transfer speeds.
A USB-C port for power, instead of USB micro-B.
HDMI ports are now micro-HDMI, and there's two ports!
Power supply is now USB-C instead of USB micro-B. (The RasPi Foundation recommends buying their own power supply since there's not many good USB-C power supplies out there)

I'll probably get the 2gb model myself, since 4gb is a bit excessive for RetroPie. Very curious to see how this new CPU does when it comes to MESS stuff (CD-i, plug and plays, FM Towns, etc.)

Fruitybit

Mine is on the way- can’t wait!

rkoster

Figures that this arrives literally the SAME DAY I buy a new 3b+. I'll probably wait until there's an ecosystem of cases and whatnot before I get yet another Pi. :)

spud11

@SuperFromND Hi. Have you got the FM Towns to work on a 3B or 3B+? FM7 is the best I've managed (albeit on a Jessie-based 3B).

Dwarfboysim

Hi all,
When it arrives please let us know if it’s compatible with your existing 3b or 3b plus image or if u had to build a new one

Dwarfboysim

SuperFromND

@spud11 Not quite at full speed (I believe the CPU upgrade in this new Pi will help with that, fingers crossed), but I have gotten it to work!

Just makes me wish for a dedicated FM-Towns core similar to PX68K though. Mame isn't exactly easy to deal with when it comes to emulating home computers.

spud11

@SuperFromND You are right there. MAME/MESS is a challenge. Off topic, but do you have any tips for getting FM Towns to work with MAME which you could share? If so, I'll open up another topic.

ellohir

Any idea of how could this new model affect emulation on Retropie? I know it says "~3x performance" but what does that mean for N64 Emulation? Would this allow PS2 capabilities?

I think going for 2 HDMI outputs and USB 3.0 ports means this would make a decent desktop computer for work on simple tasks, it's a good direction to go on honestly.

sirhenrythe5th

N64 might improve a bit.
PS2? No!!!

shadow

@ellohir my thoughts are that n64 will get slightly better, but not much. It seems that the GPU might be the same as the 3b and 3b+, although I am not sure on that yet.

shadow

But what I am really excited about is the USB 3 ports, as e-GPU adapters do exist for USB 3, even though it would be bottlenecked as hell, I would still love to see if someone could get that working

ellohir

@shadow @sirhenrythe5th So it's a hardware upgrade but seems like it won't affect too much the emulation side of things. Thanks!

GreyAreaUK

Came here to post exactly this :)

Ars Technica review: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/faster-raspberry-pi-4-promises-desktop-class-performance/

(ok, not exactly a review, more of an overview)

spud11

Another review:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html

shadow

As of now Retropie does not run on the rpi 4, but I am sure within the next 2-4 weeks a build will be up for the rpi4

ClassicGMR

Great... more money I don't have for something I don't need and no one except me will use... yet I cannot resist!!!

THANKS A LOT!!! 😂😂

shadow

@ClassicGMR well the real thing is how far can we push this new board. If it can only improve stuff like mame then dont buy it, but if it does improve dreamcast, and n64 to a decent degree, then buy it when you have the money to do so

ClassicGMR

@shadow said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

@ClassicGMR well the real thing is how far can we push this new board. If it can only improve stuff like mame then dont buy it, but if it does improve dreamcast, and n64 to a decent degree, then buy it when you have the money to do so

Pfft your logic isn't strong enough to overcome my "SHINY GOTTA HAVE IT" mentality! I spurn you! 😂😂

shadow

@ClassicGMR do what you want (also I will be buying this board because SHINY)

Ranma

While I am incredibly excited at this news, I'm also kinda glad they are out of stock at the moment too. I think for our purposes there's no urgent reason to upgrade yet - but it's definitely going to be coming. I imagine as above, some improvement to N64 and Dreamcast, which is about as far as I'd want mine to go anyway. I lost interest in gaming after Sega left us.