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    Configuring Controls for DraStic

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    • George SpiggottG
      George Spiggott
      last edited by

      Hi I'm having great difficulty modifying the controller settings on DraStic. I press M twice to enter the menu but the cursor and return key don't act as expected and it is impossible to enter or save any useful settings. Can anyone help?

      Currently running:
      Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
      ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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      • mituM
        mitu Global Moderator
        last edited by

        This is a known issue on the Pi4 with DraStic, without a solution so far. Somebody said that configuring the controller on a Pi3 and re-using the configuration file (drastic.cfg) from that working PI3 installation would solve the issue - you may try that if you still have a Pi3 system available.

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        • IceChes1I
          IceChes1
          last edited by

          @George-Spiggott This is true with a controller too. Nothing works. I want to change my controls to Xbox-style layouts. An Xbox 360 was my first serious console and I'm used to that. Nintendo's layout is alien to me. I also had this problem in lr-ppsspp. I had to switch to the non-retroarch version for it to work. This seems to be the opposite with DraStic. Except that there isn't a retroarch plugin for it so currently we are stuck.

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          • George SpiggottG
            George Spiggott
            last edited by George Spiggott

            Thanks. I've seen some pastebins of the contents of the configuration file. Maybe I can create a file from those. Which directory should I put it in?

            If anyone uses a PS3 pad via bluetooth to control drastic could you please post me the contents of your configuration file. I would be very grateful.

            I've not experienced any issues with Lr-PPSSPP.

            [edit]

            I found the settings for a PS3 pad (probably for a Pi 3) here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzQs3hL1nsTXV05zenZOcFE0RWc/view

            Copy/paste the contents into a text file and save it here: "retropie/configs/nds/drastic/config/drastic.cfg"

            Now to mod the screen and frameskip settings for a more overclocked Pi4 friendly experience. Any tips welcome.

            Thanks again.

            Currently running:
            Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
            ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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            • ByteThisB
              ByteThis @George Spiggott
              last edited by

              @George-Spiggott I see you may have solved it on your own but for reference , this is the workaround that mitu mentioned : https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/ghsxay/drastic_2504_for_rpi4_controller_config_fix/ .

              But on the bright side..the drastic devs are working on a Retroarch core : https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/gqfg4p/drastic_devs_working_on_a_retroarch_core .

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              • George SpiggottG
                George Spiggott
                last edited by George Spiggott

                I'm pretty close. I can't assign the analogue stick to mirror the D-pad or setup the big little screen setup that Desume has yet. On the plus side I can get it to run at 60fps with hi res (2× resolution) 3D with frameskip turned off completely.

                Currently running:
                Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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                • quicksilverQ
                  quicksilver @George Spiggott
                  last edited by

                  @George-Spiggott I've gotten quite "good" at navigating the drastic menu on my pi 4. The trick is to remember that the screen is basically displaying what you did one step behind. So for example after pressing "m" you see a black screen, if you press down on the dpad the menu will appear, however you have actually also moved the selector one space down on the menu (even though it still shows you at the top). If you go slow you can mentally keep track of what menu option your actually on.

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                  • George SpiggottG
                    George Spiggott
                    last edited by George Spiggott

                    @quicksilver Thanks. How have you found it performance wise? I had to turn off threaded video because I was getting some fairly bad screen tearing. As a result performance has taken a hit. I get totally smooth 2x resolution gameplay with auto frame skip set to 2 but I think I'm going to have to increase it further to the same with both screens displayed horizontally.

                    Otherwise I'm pretty happy with the settings I have at the moment and I have found changing them via SSH on my tablet to be fairly straightforward. I plan to disable the menu button on my joypad as it is far to easy to press accidentally mid game and I'm not sure that DraStic even supports big/little screen options or d-pad mirroring to analogue . Does anyone know what the screen_scaling setting does and what the variables are for it? It is set to '0' by default and '1' seems to have no effect.

                    Currently running:
                    Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                    ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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                    • quicksilverQ
                      quicksilver @George Spiggott
                      last edited by quicksilver

                      @George-Spiggott I noticed the screen tearing but didn't realize it was the threaded mode causing it. I feel like performance isn't as good on my pi 4 as it was on my pi 3 but that is purely a gut feeling, I haven't done any benchmarks. It's possible this build just isn't optimized well for the pi 4. Hopefully when the retroarch version is released it will work better.

                      The scaling mode is used to scale the game area to fit your screen. If you're already getting a fullscreen image then you shouldn't need to change it.

                      I disabled calling the drastic menu from my controller as well.

                      I don't know about big/little screen options, I haven't seen that listed. What I did was set LB to toggle vertical/horizontal orientation and RB to toggle single screen/dual screen view.

                      For first person shooter games like Metroid prime hunters you can map the NDS face buttons to your right analog stick and map the emulated stylus to the dpad. Then map the NDS dpad to your left analog stick. Then in the metroid game settings you can change control type from stylus to face buttons. In the drastic menu save the controller config as a per game config only, that way it only applies to that game. For any other first person shooters that support face button controls you can do the same thing. This will allow you to play fps games using dual analog controls.

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                      • George SpiggottG
                        George Spiggott
                        last edited by

                        I've tested with multi-thread 3D turned off and frameskip turned up. The frameskip and sound breaks are much more noticeable than the screen tearing on most games. I've gone back to having multi-thread 3D turned on.

                        Currently running:
                        Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                        ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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                        • N
                          notthesame
                          last edited by notthesame

                          has anyone figured how to get a quick fix? so far i tested on desktop gamepad/keyboard work fine on menu in desktop, can we run a command to run it on retropie but running from desktop somehow? like using x session , not sure how to do that.

                          example drastic = "pushd /opt/retropie/configs/nds/drastic; /opt/retropie/emulators/drastic/drastic %ROM%; popd"
                          *this original code above

                          i know we need a new build, i did test another compiled drastic one time and had a different movement for menu but i forgot which was it? odroid or jetson nano, ill be back with results
                          Edited

                          The version was rockpi4 since they have almost the same flags so this be a great start for now, also if anyone has issues setting up, run the emulator on desktop to config and then run in retropie, , until we find a way to run on desktop using it's code onto retropie.

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                          • quicksilverQ
                            quicksilver @notthesame
                            last edited by

                            @notthesame word on the street is that there will be a drastic retroarch core out at some point this year. If this is the case then I would say just wait for that as it will be much easier to use I'm sure.

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                            • George SpiggottG
                              George Spiggott
                              last edited by

                              I need to give this another airing to see if the new kernel has affected the screen tearing.

                              Currently running:
                              Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                              ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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                                notthesame @quicksilver
                                last edited by notthesame

                                @quicksilver that be so nice, it help on gamepad glitch or bug also, gamepads once going to sleep,, drastic don't wake it up, being a lr- would not give this error thanks

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                                • R
                                  RetroRetr0
                                  last edited by

                                  Hey Everyone, I was able to calibrate my controller and resolve the issue (on my Vilros usb ps2 style controller).

                                  I ran into the same issue of when I tried to use the regular controls for my other games, but sadly it wouldn't work and all that i was able to move was the stylist on the bottom screen.

                                  How i got it to work:
                                  Go into your Nintendo Ds emulator, and start a game, press the analog button (until you see the red light on under the analog button). then a list of options pop up on the left side of the screen, select the "configure controller" option and viola!!

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                                  • mituM
                                    mitu Global Moderator @RetroRetr0
                                    last edited by

                                    @retroretr0 Since this topic was posted, the controls not working properly issue has been addressed. If you're using the latest RetroPie version, the issue is not present and the controls should work fine, including the controller configuration screen.

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                                    • DTEAMD
                                      DTEAM @mitu
                                      last edited by DTEAM

                                      @mitu said in Configuring Controls for DraStic:

                                      @retroretr0 Since this topic was posted, the controls not working properly issue has been addressed. If you're using the latest RetroPie version, the issue is not present and the controls should work fine, including the controller configuration screen.

                                      For people who are using small lcd touchscreen, Touchscreen is also working without specific setup. Great emulator.

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                                      • R
                                        RetroRetr0 @mitu
                                        last edited by

                                        @mitu oh okay, cool.

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                                          blahblah @mitu
                                          last edited by blahblah

                                          @mitu Running the latest versions (Retropie 4.7.3 and Drastic 2.5.0.4) and the problem is still present.

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator @blahblah
                                            last edited by

                                            @blahblah Please add some info about about your system, as detailed in https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first.

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