Not all forums are nice places to be.
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@agtrigormortis It's hard to take your "fight for free speech" seriously when you've just told someone to get lost because they said something you didn't like.
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@crush Of course, for people like you it is harder to put effort into investigating something than it is to accuse people you don't know. Go ask the maker of the original thread, his (or her) username is ElArmenDiablo, this is not the person who blocked me, he actually asked me for further advise on how to resolve lag on his PC in private messages later on. The problem is the moderator, and I've got a witness, someone directly involved.
If you're too lazy to actually do work then kindly keep your ass neutral about it.
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29427/not-all-forums-are-nice-places-to-be/3
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
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Can you elaborate on "people like you"? Who are people like me? what defines them?
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@agtrigormortis Actually, looking at the topic on the forum from where your topic was deleted, it looks like there may be a mis-understanding from your part. This is how I read it.
Also, please, no personal attacks on the forum. Your post hasn't attracted much sympathy here since it's just a simple frustration manifestation which - quite frankly - doesn't really help the forum users here. Yes, some forums are better than the other, some moderators are better someplace than the other. That's the internet, just like in real life.
For the others in the post - don't be quick to judge and don't turn this into a .. measuring contest.
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@mitu If it really is a misunderstanding as has been claimed, then they should be the ones to prove it. FYI I'm not the only one who has had experiences like this on the forum in question, I've recently received messages from people who frequent the threads I went to that from somebody else who deals with the exact same nonsense. And for what? if you're not allowed to give useful and coherent advise on a forum then what is a forum for? if somebody asks a question then they clearly want an answer for it.
The screenshot doesn't say "deleted", it says "forbidden". And since the OP hasn't told me or complained about a thread removal, I have good reason to believe a moderator disabled my access to it, as it isn't the first time I've dealt with this kind of crap from them, or the others who messaged me who complained about similar problems with the moderators on that forum. You're free to ask ElArmenDiablo questions about what happened if you want, but if you don't want to or don't have the time then like the previous posters here you should admit that you don't know the full story and leave it at that, it's that simple, this is something people were taught as children, yet for some reason some adults on this planet act as if they had forgotten this basic thing called "treat others how you wish to be treated".
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
If it really is a misunderstanding as has been claimed, then they should be the ones to prove it.
It may not be an understanding, as you claim, but I'm not going to register on another forum and ask users about moderators' behavior just so I can confirm your claims. Please keep things civil and don't insult the others, just as I said in my previous post.
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@mitu It works both ways though
if I don't know the full story and have no way to obtain all the relevant information, then I try my best to stay out of other people's arguments, as this usually results in the best outcome.
I don't know the full story of people who messaged me claiming they had similar problems with the moderators, all I can say is I've been told this and that, I have no evidence, that is between them.
But I'm not going to stay silent when someone wrongs me in some way.
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@agtrigormortis If you would like people to stay out of your arguments I would suggest you avoid posting them on a public forum. Unfortunately for you, freedom of speech entitles people to express their opinion when you've expressed yours, regardless of who is "right" or "wrong".
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
why do you feel the need to make assumptions about someone you never met before just because they are trying to inform others to be careful about toxic people online?
Well, because people don't need to have met you before to judge you and your claims based on your present behaviour. Hint: Calling others idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots, "people like you", lazy, and telling them to "keep their ass neutral" and grow up in so far every one of your posts isn't the best way to invoke sympathy for your grievances.
or some reason some adults on this planet act as if they had forgotten this basic thing called "treat others how you wish to be treated"
Aside from being a slippery slope to think that people want to be treated like you want to be (they may prefer to be treated totally differently), do you really want to be called all those things I collected from your posts above? As a little exercise in putting yourself in others' shoes, you could try to read your posts as they were replies to you, and see if you really think they are appropriate and sociable.
Take it for what you will, but remember these things happen for a reason.
Yes, and that reason may well be your own behaviour, if your posts in this thread are any indication of your typical conversational tone.
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@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion. How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future? they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
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Reading this thread has reminded me of a feature I once saw on another forum somewhere.
They had a sub-forum called the Recycle Bin. When a thread started running in circles, becoming too far off topic, or just generally devolving, they would move it to the Bin. I think it was cool because if someone wanted to bust out the popcorn and watch everything unfold or keep replying to it you could still get to it, but it no longer got grouped with the main posts of the regular category.
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@yfzdude If the forum mods here don't want this argument continuing then they are free to lock the thread, it is their site. I would understand that, and that wasn't the exact same issue I was having on the other forum.
If an argument goes around in circles with people, sometimes it isn't worth dragging out any longer. Hate begets hate.
What happened on the other site was different and what the mods did there felt patronizing because there wasn't even an argument with the OP of that thread that was either blocked or removed, that's where my frustration came from. I gave advise about FreeSync or G-Sync to help eliminate stuttering on the individuals PC because 140fps with regular V-Sync would've caused problems on a 144hz monitor, next thing I know, the thread became forbidden. I doubt the OP requested the thread to be removed, if he/she did, then he/she wouldn't still be asking me (and potentially others) in private messages for help.
Now these people are claiming they removed the OP's thread because of some advocacy of piracy or something like that. Which I find hard to believe and had nothing to do with the topic being discussed, at least what I remember of it and I was sent screenshots of that thread to my private messages by some associates of mine whom I had frequent threads with. I could be wrong, maybe there was an advocacy of piracy somewhere just minutes before the thread got deleted, but right now it just feels like an excuse to get other people off their case about it.
Regardless, what's done is done,
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion.
No evidence, but strong indications given your behaviour here.
How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future?
Well, I just didn't see any responses here that deserved your over-the-top rudeness and name-calling, so I take the liberty to assert that it may have been similar in that other forum.
they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
Says the one who called people here idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots etc.
You keep complaining about others' bad behaviour, yet you dismissed most rules of conduct here. Maybe in that other forum, too? Anyway, we only have your testimony about it.
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@clyde said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion.
No evidence, but strong indications given your behaviour here.
How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future?
Well, I just didn't see any responses here that deserved your over-the-top rudeness and name-calling, so I take the liberty to assert that it may have been similar in that other forum.
they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
Says the one who called people here idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots etc.
You keep complaining about others' bad behaviour, yet you dismissed most rules of conduct here. Maybe in that other forum, too? Anyway, we only have your testimony about it.
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
But somebody else in this thread did, and also doesn' t want to acknowledge that a forum being a private platform doesn't absolve them from inappropriate conduct or give its moderators the right to treat us like we're second class citizens or lesser beings, I don't do appeal to authority so don't even go there.
Whether you're a politician or a private entity, I do not care of which, there is no justification for silencing people for giving helpful advise to people. As I said numerous times in this thread, if you want the full story then you can go and ask the OP of the thread in that other forum which is not a moderator. I wasn't rude to him/her, and this individual doesn't even have a problem with me talking to him/her, perhaps this person has emails which he/she could take screenshots of and send to you privately.
So what reason did the mods have for forbidding access to the thread? which they may have also done to other people?
Note, the HeyImLevi account may be suspended, which is why it is probably wiser if you send a message to the ElArmenDiablo account, if they are even the same person.An associate sent me this webcache link,
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
Actually I think you may have it backwards. He wasn't saying that only Americans defend free speech. He was saying that Americans get confused what a "right" to free speech is.
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@quicksilver said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
Actually I think you may have it backwards. He wasn't saying that only Americans defend free speech. He was saying that Americans get confused what a "right" to free speech is.
I've been all over the world, and the only people I see using their "right to free speech" in a completely wrong context is Americans. And I'm an American.
The OP apparently thinks he can say whatever he likes on a discussion forum, ignore the rules, attack other people personally, argue with moderators, and not suffer any consequences.
Yet, he claims that he was banned merely for being "helpful".
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I will write something here and I don't mean to offend, take sides, or make enemies, but rather I hope it provides something to think about.
I will confess I haven't read every word of every post in this thread. I don't have the strong desire. But from skimming, it seems like you may have come here with a frustration looking for support or some kind of 'rally the troops' idea. If your point was mainly that this is a nice forum where people are mostly respectful and generally kind, I think we tend to agree although I can't speak for anyone but myself.
However, there are two sides to every story and if you feel resistance coming at you rather than support, it may be because no one here has fully seen both sides of the story, only what you present or what can be searched. Right, wrong, or indifferent, if you are getting "excited" by the details of what happened when people question something or when they state what their perception is, then escalating or restating emphatically the points which you have already made may not help change positively the perception that someone has of you.
All of this to simply say, it appears that no one is changing hearts and minds here and it may be best to save our energy and move on... I don't know. At least that is what I may do.
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@yfzdude I had a recent talk with them and it appears to be a misunderstanding, so I'll forgive it this time. But any sign of trouble in the future and that forum is getting ignored and signed out for me. I'm not as young as I used to be and I don't need the stress making my health worse. After the thread got restored I just found out they were telling the truth, that the OP did in fact ask for help with a pirate copy of Minecraft, so I do see where they're coming from.
while it is true that some games are nearly impossible to buy because they were discontinued, this doesn't apply to Minecraft and plus it would be unprofessional of people running sites to advocate or aid and abet law breaking and crime.
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CLOSE THIS THREAD.... ENOUGH ALREADY!
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@videoarcade I'm sure the moderators here would get onto that eventually.
But if this thread were to be closed, that would be good because it means we could move on and not get anymore replies day after day about an uninteresting topic.
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