Not all forums are nice places to be.
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@mitu It works both ways though
if I don't know the full story and have no way to obtain all the relevant information, then I try my best to stay out of other people's arguments, as this usually results in the best outcome.
I don't know the full story of people who messaged me claiming they had similar problems with the moderators, all I can say is I've been told this and that, I have no evidence, that is between them.
But I'm not going to stay silent when someone wrongs me in some way.
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@agtrigormortis If you would like people to stay out of your arguments I would suggest you avoid posting them on a public forum. Unfortunately for you, freedom of speech entitles people to express their opinion when you've expressed yours, regardless of who is "right" or "wrong".
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
why do you feel the need to make assumptions about someone you never met before just because they are trying to inform others to be careful about toxic people online?
Well, because people don't need to have met you before to judge you and your claims based on your present behaviour. Hint: Calling others idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots, "people like you", lazy, and telling them to "keep their ass neutral" and grow up in so far every one of your posts isn't the best way to invoke sympathy for your grievances.
or some reason some adults on this planet act as if they had forgotten this basic thing called "treat others how you wish to be treated"
Aside from being a slippery slope to think that people want to be treated like you want to be (they may prefer to be treated totally differently), do you really want to be called all those things I collected from your posts above? As a little exercise in putting yourself in others' shoes, you could try to read your posts as they were replies to you, and see if you really think they are appropriate and sociable.
Take it for what you will, but remember these things happen for a reason.
Yes, and that reason may well be your own behaviour, if your posts in this thread are any indication of your typical conversational tone.
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@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion. How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future? they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
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Reading this thread has reminded me of a feature I once saw on another forum somewhere.
They had a sub-forum called the Recycle Bin. When a thread started running in circles, becoming too far off topic, or just generally devolving, they would move it to the Bin. I think it was cool because if someone wanted to bust out the popcorn and watch everything unfold or keep replying to it you could still get to it, but it no longer got grouped with the main posts of the regular category.
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@yfzdude If the forum mods here don't want this argument continuing then they are free to lock the thread, it is their site. I would understand that, and that wasn't the exact same issue I was having on the other forum.
If an argument goes around in circles with people, sometimes it isn't worth dragging out any longer. Hate begets hate.
What happened on the other site was different and what the mods did there felt patronizing because there wasn't even an argument with the OP of that thread that was either blocked or removed, that's where my frustration came from. I gave advise about FreeSync or G-Sync to help eliminate stuttering on the individuals PC because 140fps with regular V-Sync would've caused problems on a 144hz monitor, next thing I know, the thread became forbidden. I doubt the OP requested the thread to be removed, if he/she did, then he/she wouldn't still be asking me (and potentially others) in private messages for help.
Now these people are claiming they removed the OP's thread because of some advocacy of piracy or something like that. Which I find hard to believe and had nothing to do with the topic being discussed, at least what I remember of it and I was sent screenshots of that thread to my private messages by some associates of mine whom I had frequent threads with. I could be wrong, maybe there was an advocacy of piracy somewhere just minutes before the thread got deleted, but right now it just feels like an excuse to get other people off their case about it.
Regardless, what's done is done,
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion.
No evidence, but strong indications given your behaviour here.
How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future?
Well, I just didn't see any responses here that deserved your over-the-top rudeness and name-calling, so I take the liberty to assert that it may have been similar in that other forum.
they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
Says the one who called people here idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots etc.
You keep complaining about others' bad behaviour, yet you dismissed most rules of conduct here. Maybe in that other forum, too? Anyway, we only have your testimony about it.
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@clyde said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion.
No evidence, but strong indications given your behaviour here.
How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future?
Well, I just didn't see any responses here that deserved your over-the-top rudeness and name-calling, so I take the liberty to assert that it may have been similar in that other forum.
they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
Says the one who called people here idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots etc.
You keep complaining about others' bad behaviour, yet you dismissed most rules of conduct here. Maybe in that other forum, too? Anyway, we only have your testimony about it.
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
But somebody else in this thread did, and also doesn' t want to acknowledge that a forum being a private platform doesn't absolve them from inappropriate conduct or give its moderators the right to treat us like we're second class citizens or lesser beings, I don't do appeal to authority so don't even go there.
Whether you're a politician or a private entity, I do not care of which, there is no justification for silencing people for giving helpful advise to people. As I said numerous times in this thread, if you want the full story then you can go and ask the OP of the thread in that other forum which is not a moderator. I wasn't rude to him/her, and this individual doesn't even have a problem with me talking to him/her, perhaps this person has emails which he/she could take screenshots of and send to you privately.
So what reason did the mods have for forbidding access to the thread? which they may have also done to other people?
Note, the HeyImLevi account may be suspended, which is why it is probably wiser if you send a message to the ElArmenDiablo account, if they are even the same person.An associate sent me this webcache link,
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
Actually I think you may have it backwards. He wasn't saying that only Americans defend free speech. He was saying that Americans get confused what a "right" to free speech is.
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@quicksilver said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
Actually I think you may have it backwards. He wasn't saying that only Americans defend free speech. He was saying that Americans get confused what a "right" to free speech is.
I've been all over the world, and the only people I see using their "right to free speech" in a completely wrong context is Americans. And I'm an American.
The OP apparently thinks he can say whatever he likes on a discussion forum, ignore the rules, attack other people personally, argue with moderators, and not suffer any consequences.
Yet, he claims that he was banned merely for being "helpful".
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I will write something here and I don't mean to offend, take sides, or make enemies, but rather I hope it provides something to think about.
I will confess I haven't read every word of every post in this thread. I don't have the strong desire. But from skimming, it seems like you may have come here with a frustration looking for support or some kind of 'rally the troops' idea. If your point was mainly that this is a nice forum where people are mostly respectful and generally kind, I think we tend to agree although I can't speak for anyone but myself.
However, there are two sides to every story and if you feel resistance coming at you rather than support, it may be because no one here has fully seen both sides of the story, only what you present or what can be searched. Right, wrong, or indifferent, if you are getting "excited" by the details of what happened when people question something or when they state what their perception is, then escalating or restating emphatically the points which you have already made may not help change positively the perception that someone has of you.
All of this to simply say, it appears that no one is changing hearts and minds here and it may be best to save our energy and move on... I don't know. At least that is what I may do.
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@yfzdude I had a recent talk with them and it appears to be a misunderstanding, so I'll forgive it this time. But any sign of trouble in the future and that forum is getting ignored and signed out for me. I'm not as young as I used to be and I don't need the stress making my health worse. After the thread got restored I just found out they were telling the truth, that the OP did in fact ask for help with a pirate copy of Minecraft, so I do see where they're coming from.
while it is true that some games are nearly impossible to buy because they were discontinued, this doesn't apply to Minecraft and plus it would be unprofessional of people running sites to advocate or aid and abet law breaking and crime.
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CLOSE THIS THREAD.... ENOUGH ALREADY!
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@videoarcade I'm sure the moderators here would get onto that eventually.
But if this thread were to be closed, that would be good because it means we could move on and not get anymore replies day after day about an uninteresting topic.
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@greengriffon I just came back after seeing your condescending little remark which was apparently hidden on my other account as I had blocked you
and I'm going to correct you by saying, no, I wasn't banned, I thought I got blocked by moderators from somebody else's thread, there's a big difference, although allegedly that wasn't the case, now the moderators are saying the thread got restored (if it was even deleted in the first place, I don't know because I don't run that website)
Learn to read the comments that are given to you before you make arrogant assumptions about people you have no clue about.
Read my post that were in direct reply to the original poster of the thread, do this look condescending to you?
"Using Free Sync or G-Sync which is compatible with Nvidia GTX 1060 video cards and supported monitors, should eliminate the problem of stuttering even if the frame rate drops to 140 below the maximum of 144hz on the OP's display. It's actually the best way to keep frame rates in sync with the monitor without causing tearing or excessive input lag.
the alternative is to cap the frame rate to something that can remain consistent. But 140fps with regular V-Sync on a 144hz monitor isn't good, because as you said it would get halved to about 72fps which is far worse than my suggestion that got removed in an earlier post. Having the fame rate be half of your monitors refresh rate negates the benefits of having your monitor set to 144hz in the first place."
If you think that does, then you're clearly not very educated on English.
It's got nothing to do with disrespecting forum rules at all, your negative experiences with other Americans misusing the term free speech doesn't give you credence to attack others you willfully misrepresent. It's astonishing what cowards people like you can be though, when you attack people anonymously behind a computer screen. When they had previously never wronged you, and you entered this thread first, so take your self righteous remarks elsewhere.
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@greengriffon said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@quicksilver said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
Who implied that only Americans defend free speech? it certainly wasn't me, or you.
Actually I think you may have it backwards. He wasn't saying that only Americans defend free speech. He was saying that Americans get confused what a "right" to free speech is.
I've been all over the world, and the only people I see using their "right to free speech" in a completely wrong context is Americans. And I'm an American.
The OP apparently thinks he can say whatever he likes on a discussion forum, ignore the rules, attack other people personally, argue with moderators, and not suffer any consequences.
Yet, he claims that he was banned merely for being "helpful".
This is a ludicrous thread, and a waste of everyone's time.I hope you realize that this has a stacking effect, right? The OP comes here looking for support or sympathy and gets beaten down further after already being given what seems to be a unfair treatment by the mods on this other forum. Of course he is upset when his venting about hostility is met with more hostility, and yes he can be taken seriously because misunderstandings do happen and sometimes mods make mistakes, they are people too.
I've seen more than enough instances of someone who did nothing wrong (or at best something trivial) getting accused wrongly, taking it personally, and digging themselves in deeper out of pride or a sense of integrity, because this happens often. Seeing his side of the story, not just the forum's, is important too. Emotional support isn't so hard to give and can really bounce back someone on a downward spiral or in a bad spot. It's worth a shot, and for what I think, I believe the OP has a point, it's hard to be sure without seeing the deleted thread but I doubt he would come here to lie or to troll as if he'd done something seriously wrong.
For the record, I used to be an active member of the forums in question as well. Used to, because the moderation and administration changed hands, and some people I approved of and some I did not. I am not saying for sure what OP said is correct and the mods are completely horrible all of them, but I can very well see from first hand experience that some of them could have taken an abuse of power here by 'following their discretion'.
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@greengriffon said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
I've been all over the world, and the only people I see using their "right to free speech" in a completely wrong context is Americans. And I'm an American.
So, the OP accused you of being xenophobic to your own people? (edit: that would actually be Oikophobia) How hilarious and sad at the same time. It reminds me of playing the original Diablo online many years ago, when one player accused another and me of being typical Americans – until we told him that we're Italian and German. He actually apologised to us after that.
@videoarcade said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
CLOSE THIS THREAD.... ENOUGH ALREADY!
I'm not a friend of closing discussions like these. Although most people prefer nice, polite conversations, heated arguments are part of human interaction and some statements shouldn't be left unchallegend lest we'll distort our perception of the world to a happy filter bubble.
Of course there are limits to what should be allowed to be thrown at your fellow contemporaries, but I don't think this line was crossed in this thread (yet). And who knows if the OP would have gone back to the other forum to resolve his/her misunderstanding if he hadn't met a wall of scepticism here?
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If anyone thinks they know bad forums, until you visit the Neo Geo forums - you have no idea.
I (amazingly) haven't been banned from them, though I'm sure tens of thousands of people have been.
They're good for a laugh to browse and see what's going on, but my god, that is definitely the most aggressive forum for gaming around.
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