Not all forums are nice places to be.
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I came back here because I can at least respect the users here enough to not say anything negative about them as they are generally polite people and do from time to time give helpful advise and constructive criticism when needed.
But on some other forums it is different. I won't go into a lengthy essay about this because I don't feel like it, I will however post screenshots here so you can form your own opinions on it. Basically what happened is I got blocked from someone else's thread on minecraftforum even though what I said and wrote was on topic and I gave helpful advise about how to solve a stuttering problem regarding Minecraft on a PC with an Nvidia GTX 1060 video card, I suggested using G-Sync or FreeSync since the frame rates in game weren't matching the monitors maximum.
If you don't believe my story then go ask the OP yourself about the thread in question.
But I literally despise minecraftforum now. It's not just me they've done this too, they've done it to others on the site also or given them warnings or bans for the most absurd reasons of all. I came here to warn you all because if you join this site, then you need to know the people you're dealing with on there. -
@agtrigormortis Not to get too far into a discussion about constitutional rights on a RetroPie forum, but I'm going to assume you're American.
Here's the bottom line - you don't have any "right to free speech" on a private platform. Period.
The 1st Amendment protects your right to speak freely without interference from the government. It doesn't entitle you to say whatever you like on an internet forum. -
@greengriffon 1) I'm not American, 2) you have no clue what happens on this site unless you experience it first hand on there yourself.
Being blocked from somebody else's thread by a moderator, even when you were on topic and weren't getting abusive toward that individual is uncalled for, end of story.
All I did was give advise on how to eliminate a stuttering issue as a result of frame rates not matching his or her monitors maximum or set refresh rate with V-Sync, and this happens.
Don't defend bad moderating just because it is a private platform or you'll make yourself look like an idiot.
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@agtrigormortis Okay, let's try it another way. Your post has nothing to do with RetroPie at all. You came here to complain about being banned from a Minecraft forum.
Based on your response, I rather doubt it was bad moderating. Looks more like an entitled user with a bad attitude.
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@greengriffon Says the one who assumed I was American just for the free speech comment, which is xenophobic for one thing, you made the jerkish response first so don't get on your high horse.
Why is it that some people like yourself can never admit that sometimes bad moderating does happen? why do you feel the need to make assumptions about someone you never met before just because they are trying to inform others to be careful about toxic people online? you're the one with the entitled attitude, and hypocritical also because you expect others to display etiquette but show none yourself.
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@agtrigormortis It's "xenophobic" to say you're not entitled to free speech on a private platform?
Nobody cares about you getting banned on another forum for your own behavior. Forums have rules, and moderators have the right to enforce those rules as they wish. If you don't like their rules, find another community or create your own.
If you can't understand that, you need to grow up.
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@greengriffon I gave advise on how to fix stuttering on their gaming PC with some tech knowledge, politely to somebody else, and you assumed I did wrong despite having zero evidence, so it is you who needs to grow up.
Not everyone who defends free speech is American, to assume everyone who defends it is xenophobic. I'm not American, but I have friends who are American and I don't make spiteful remarks about them because they don't want to have their right to an honest and non bigoted opinion robbed from them. So get lost, also bye, I don't talk to bigots.
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Looking at this thread i can see why people block you from conversations.
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@agtrigormortis It's hard to take your "fight for free speech" seriously when you've just told someone to get lost because they said something you didn't like.
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@crush Of course, for people like you it is harder to put effort into investigating something than it is to accuse people you don't know. Go ask the maker of the original thread, his (or her) username is ElArmenDiablo, this is not the person who blocked me, he actually asked me for further advise on how to resolve lag on his PC in private messages later on. The problem is the moderator, and I've got a witness, someone directly involved.
If you're too lazy to actually do work then kindly keep your ass neutral about it.
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29427/not-all-forums-are-nice-places-to-be/3
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
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Can you elaborate on "people like you"? Who are people like me? what defines them?
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@agtrigormortis Actually, looking at the topic on the forum from where your topic was deleted, it looks like there may be a mis-understanding from your part. This is how I read it.
Also, please, no personal attacks on the forum. Your post hasn't attracted much sympathy here since it's just a simple frustration manifestation which - quite frankly - doesn't really help the forum users here. Yes, some forums are better than the other, some moderators are better someplace than the other. That's the internet, just like in real life.
For the others in the post - don't be quick to judge and don't turn this into a .. measuring contest.
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@mitu If it really is a misunderstanding as has been claimed, then they should be the ones to prove it. FYI I'm not the only one who has had experiences like this on the forum in question, I've recently received messages from people who frequent the threads I went to that from somebody else who deals with the exact same nonsense. And for what? if you're not allowed to give useful and coherent advise on a forum then what is a forum for? if somebody asks a question then they clearly want an answer for it.
The screenshot doesn't say "deleted", it says "forbidden". And since the OP hasn't told me or complained about a thread removal, I have good reason to believe a moderator disabled my access to it, as it isn't the first time I've dealt with this kind of crap from them, or the others who messaged me who complained about similar problems with the moderators on that forum. You're free to ask ElArmenDiablo questions about what happened if you want, but if you don't want to or don't have the time then like the previous posters here you should admit that you don't know the full story and leave it at that, it's that simple, this is something people were taught as children, yet for some reason some adults on this planet act as if they had forgotten this basic thing called "treat others how you wish to be treated".
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
If it really is a misunderstanding as has been claimed, then they should be the ones to prove it.
It may not be an understanding, as you claim, but I'm not going to register on another forum and ask users about moderators' behavior just so I can confirm your claims. Please keep things civil and don't insult the others, just as I said in my previous post.
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@mitu It works both ways though
if I don't know the full story and have no way to obtain all the relevant information, then I try my best to stay out of other people's arguments, as this usually results in the best outcome.
I don't know the full story of people who messaged me claiming they had similar problems with the moderators, all I can say is I've been told this and that, I have no evidence, that is between them.
But I'm not going to stay silent when someone wrongs me in some way.
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@agtrigormortis If you would like people to stay out of your arguments I would suggest you avoid posting them on a public forum. Unfortunately for you, freedom of speech entitles people to express their opinion when you've expressed yours, regardless of who is "right" or "wrong".
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@agtrigormortis said in Not all forums are nice places to be.:
why do you feel the need to make assumptions about someone you never met before just because they are trying to inform others to be careful about toxic people online?
Well, because people don't need to have met you before to judge you and your claims based on your present behaviour. Hint: Calling others idiots, xenophobic, toxic, hypocritical, bigots, "people like you", lazy, and telling them to "keep their ass neutral" and grow up in so far every one of your posts isn't the best way to invoke sympathy for your grievances.
or some reason some adults on this planet act as if they had forgotten this basic thing called "treat others how you wish to be treated"
Aside from being a slippery slope to think that people want to be treated like you want to be (they may prefer to be treated totally differently), do you really want to be called all those things I collected from your posts above? As a little exercise in putting yourself in others' shoes, you could try to read your posts as they were replies to you, and see if you really think they are appropriate and sociable.
Take it for what you will, but remember these things happen for a reason.
Yes, and that reason may well be your own behaviour, if your posts in this thread are any indication of your typical conversational tone.
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@clyde You're talking about people who claimed I was wrongdoing on that thread in question despite having zero evidence for their assertion. How do you expect me to react when other people have been giving me rude responses about this when I've been trying to inform them to be careful about a website which may cause them some trouble in the future? they really should learn to take their own advise, if they want others to walk a mile in another's shoes.
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Reading this thread has reminded me of a feature I once saw on another forum somewhere.
They had a sub-forum called the Recycle Bin. When a thread started running in circles, becoming too far off topic, or just generally devolving, they would move it to the Bin. I think it was cool because if someone wanted to bust out the popcorn and watch everything unfold or keep replying to it you could still get to it, but it no longer got grouped with the main posts of the regular category.
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@yfzdude If the forum mods here don't want this argument continuing then they are free to lock the thread, it is their site. I would understand that, and that wasn't the exact same issue I was having on the other forum.
If an argument goes around in circles with people, sometimes it isn't worth dragging out any longer. Hate begets hate.
What happened on the other site was different and what the mods did there felt patronizing because there wasn't even an argument with the OP of that thread that was either blocked or removed, that's where my frustration came from. I gave advise about FreeSync or G-Sync to help eliminate stuttering on the individuals PC because 140fps with regular V-Sync would've caused problems on a 144hz monitor, next thing I know, the thread became forbidden. I doubt the OP requested the thread to be removed, if he/she did, then he/she wouldn't still be asking me (and potentially others) in private messages for help.
Now these people are claiming they removed the OP's thread because of some advocacy of piracy or something like that. Which I find hard to believe and had nothing to do with the topic being discussed, at least what I remember of it and I was sent screenshots of that thread to my private messages by some associates of mine whom I had frequent threads with. I could be wrong, maybe there was an advocacy of piracy somewhere just minutes before the thread got deleted, but right now it just feels like an excuse to get other people off their case about it.
Regardless, what's done is done,
there is no time machine so all we can do is move on.
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