Daphne help?

Riverstorm

@Riverstorm
You shouldn't have to put anything in the /opt/retropie/emulators/daphne dirctory.

Your files and roms go into the /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne directory.

If the emulator doesn't show after you have all the files in place I would try reinstalling, I did not get any of those errors when installing. Did you install from the command line rather than through ES?

Sorry Fin, where do the files from the "Daphne Downloader" go from the link above you provided above? Yes I used ES exactly as shown in the previous post.

Here's the command I ran from the command line and it parsed the files and it's actually running now. I have the HD versions of Dragon's Lair and Space Ace ripped from blu-ray. They look much better than the DVD counterparts. They just look sharper.

/opt/retropie/emulators/daphne.bin dle21 vldp -nohwaccel -framefile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/dle21.daphne/dle21.txt -homedir /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/

My issue is I don't have the correct commands in es_systems.cfg. Could someone copy and paste the lines from that file so I can patch them into mine. I would rather try that then reinstall. As I have done the reinstall more than once and would like to troubleshoot it before reinstalling from a scratch image.

Finhead

@Riverstorm
I don't think Daphne supports the HD versions only the DVD Rom versions (PC/PS2)

The files from the downloader goes into the ROMS folder. Here this is what your directory should look like, mind the other folders I have this setup for Attract Mode as well as ES the extra folders are for the frontend video/snaps/wheel etc.

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Riverstorm

@Finhead said in Daphne help?:

@Riverstorm
I don't think Daphne supports the HD versions only the DVD Rom versions (PC/PS2)

I really appreciate the help Fin. I am going to start from scratch and see if I can figure out where I went wrong.

You're right Daphne doesn't officially support the HD versions but if you have the game tileset created it works fine. I had to run it via command line due to the install failing to add the emulator to the /opt/retropie/configs/all/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg.

It parsed the files and was working fine minus the inputs. For some reason they have joystick values are out of range in the dainput.ini (i.e. - 14, 15, 16) for KEY_BUTTON1, KEY_BUTTON2 and KEY_BUTTON3 but that's an easy fix.

When using Daphne on Windows you have to use the command line to run the HD versions as well. As you said it's not officially supported but it does indeed work. The only thing you're doing is replacing the original DL tileset with and HD version of the files. The HD versions are really the way to go as they look so much better but prices for the used blu-ray versions on Amazon are ridiculous and if you're lucky and can find a new one they are through the roof.

I will let you know how it goes. I am guessing the crash corrupted something so I need to start from scratch. I really appreciate your help and have a great weekend Fin.

Riverstorm

Ok, I found my error if you copy /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg to ~/.emulationstation/es_systems.cfg it only updates /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg so it was never showing up in the menu, now it does.

Sorry for all the questions but how do you authenticate the original 20th anniversary DVD box set? I downloaded Daphne on Windows, downloaded Dragon's Lair (in Daphne) and inserted the DVD to authenticate on 'Start' of the game. Do you copy the files over afterwards? I am really stumped here. I see the original DVD is a DVD with a bunch of VOB files so it's not a straight copy I take it?

Is there a way to name DLE21 on the menu to something more meaningful?

I see there is a Pause feature from the keyboard but there's no entry in the dainput.ini. Is that something that would be added in the future by chance? :) I think that would be a handy feature for sure.

Finhead

@Riverstorm said in Daphne help?:

Ok, I found my error if you copy /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg to ~/.emulationstation/es_systems.cfg it only updates /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg so it was never showing up in the menu, now it does.

Sorry for all the questions but how do you authenticate the original 20th anniversary DVD box set? I downloaded Daphne on Windows, downloaded Dragon's Lair (in Daphne) and inserted the DVD to authenticate on 'Start' of the game. Do you copy the files over afterwards? I am really stumped here. I see the original DVD is a DVD with a bunch of VOB files so it's not a straight copy I take it?

Is there a way to name DLE21 on the menu to something more meaningful?

I see there is a Pause feature from the keyboard but there's no entry in the dainput.ini. Is that something that would be added in the future by chance? :) I think that would be a handy feature for sure.

When you startup Daphne DL you'll choose the game you want to get the files for, say Dragon's Lair. Highlight it and click start, it will come up with a window that says it will verify you have the actual DVD click ok and point it to your DVD. It will then verify and torrent the files needed for playing on your PC, those are located in games/Daphne/vldp_dl/lair . Just copy the Lair.m2v,ogg,txt files from there to your pi as I show in the pics I posted.
I'm not sure on changing the name of dle21, I use Attract Mode so I set it up with wheel art a intro video and Marquee so no need to change anything so I never tried it out.

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Riverstorm

@Finhead said in Daphne help?:

When you startup Daphne DL you'll choose the game you want to get the files for, say Dragon's Lair. Highlight it and click start, it will come up with a window that says it will verify you have the actual DVD click ok and point it to your DVD. It will then verify and torrent the files needed for playing on your PC, those are located in games/Daphne/vldp_dl/lair . Just copy the Lair.m2v,ogg,txt files from there to your pi as I show in the pics I posted.
I'm not sure on changing the name of dle21, I use Attract Mode so I set it up with wheel art a intro video and Marquee so no need to change anything so I never tried it out.

You're a rockstar, thanks Fin! :) I will get them all verified and loaded. That attract mode looks really sharp. I might have to give that a go too but I think I've about had it for the day. It's been a long week. I appreciate all your help and patience with getting Daphne up and running.

Finhead

@Riverstorm said in Daphne help?:

@Finhead said in Daphne help?:

When you startup Daphne DL you'll choose the game you want to get the files for, say Dragon's Lair. Highlight it and click start, it will come up with a window that says it will verify you have the actual DVD click ok and point it to your DVD. It will then verify and torrent the files needed for playing on your PC, those are located in games/Daphne/vldp_dl/lair . Just copy the Lair.m2v,ogg,txt files from there to your pi as I show in the pics I posted.
I'm not sure on changing the name of dle21, I use Attract Mode so I set it up with wheel art a intro video and Marquee so no need to change anything so I never tried it out.

You're a rockstar, thanks Fin! :) I will get them all verified and loaded. That attract mode looks really sharp. I might have to give that a go too but I think I've about had it for the day. It's been a long week. I appreciate all your help and patience with getting Daphne up and running.

Hope you get it working, if not I'd say send me a PM but I can't find that option here. You could send me a PM on the AttractMode forum under the same name though if you need. ;)

Riverstorm

@Finhead said in Daphne help?:

That's exactly what I needed to get Daphne running with game menu. Here's the steps if it might help anyone else. Also thanks Caver on the steps to link alternate game ROM versions with the same slate files. That was really handy.

Download and install Daphne Loader
Start Daphne and click "Start" on your preferred game (downloads games via torrent files)
After it downloads the game it will give you a list of qualifying DVD's to authenticate the game
Insert correct DVD and click "Ok" to authenticate
After it completes click "Ok' to start the game and parse the files
Exit the game and Daphne Loader
Browse to the install folder and look for the subdirectory named "vldp_dl"
Under "vldp_dl" look for the game you just installed (i.e. Dragon's Lair=lair; Space Ace=ace; etc.)
You want to copy all the files except the *.bf, *.md5, *.dat files to your Pi using SCP or another program. The directory structure is defined in the official Wiki here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Daphne

In step 2 it can take a while depending on your internet connection to download the *.bf files. It seems the *.bf files are some type of encrypted file. It's basically all the *.m2v & *.ogg files encrypted.

In step 4 it can take a while also. It uses the DVD to authenticate all the files but I do not think the downloaded version with the Daphne Loader is the same as the DVD used to authenticate the files. This step uses some decryption key to decrypt the *.bf files to usable *.m2v & *.ogg files after it verifies the DVD. You end up using twice the space as once it completes you have two sets of files the download *.bf files and the decrypted usable files.

Another thing is if you copy /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg to ~/.emulationstation/es_systems.cfg (most probably don't do this) RetroPie will use es_systems.cfg from the home folder location on bootup.

The issue is when running the Daphne install from the Experimental packages menu it only updates the /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg and not ~/.emulationstation/es_systems.cfg so it will never show up in your menu.

It would definitely be handy to have more descriptive game names in the emulator detail view. My list is something like this:

ace
cobra
dle11
dle21
lair
lair2
sdq
tq

The other thing is I wasn't sure on was what to add to the dainput.ini file to use the joystick up, down, left and right directionals. I added KEY_UP=h0up, KEY_DOWN=h0down, etc. for the 3rd parameter which is the joystick settings. I don't think it's doing anything but I didn't know what else to put as they are axis values for the D-Pad but it does seems to work fine.

Regardless it does fully work using a joystick for everything from inserting coins, starting, playing and exiting the emulator. Also it looks like the keyboard values are exactly the same as MAME defaults which is really handy for a cabinet build.

It does run very well on the Pi3 without any issues that I could find.

From the official Wiki on which versions can be used to authenticate with Daphne in step 4:

It is strongly recommended to use the DVD-Video version on the Dragon's Lair 20th Anniversary Box set (3 DVD set). These versions are sometimes marked as PS2/Xbox compatible. All references to 20th Anniversary Edition in this wiki refer to the DVD-Video version.

Dragon's Lair
Try the 20th anniversary DVD-VIDEO edition, not the PC DVD-ROM.
This single boxset will allow you to play Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II: Timewarp, and Space Ace with Daphne.

WARNING About 20th Anniversary PC DVD-ROM:
Digital Leisure also sells a 3-in-1 20th Anniversary PC DVD-ROM which is not supported by DAPHNE. This has confused several people. DAPHNE only supports the DVD-VIDEO 20th Anniversary edition, which works on a DVD player. The PC DVD-ROM does not work on a DVD player, but instead requires a PC. You can read more in this thread: https://www.daphne-emu.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2525

About Dragon's Lair HD (High Definition):
Digital Leisure also sells a High Definition version of Dragon's Lair called Dragon's Lair HD on PC DVD-Rom. Daphne does not work with this version and we have no plans to make it work at this time.

Dragon's Lair II: Timewarp
Try the 20th anniversary DVD-VIDEO edition, not the PC DVD-ROM.
This single boxset will allow you to play Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II: Timewarp, and Space Ace with Daphne.

Space Ace
Try the 20th anniversary DVD-VIDEO edition, not the PC DVD-ROM.
This single boxset will allow you to play Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II: Timewarp, and Space Ace with Daphne.

Thayer's Quest
Try the DVD Video version.

Finhead

@Riverstorm
Great you got it all sorted.
Keylist to configure Daphne dapinput.ini file.

Riverstorm

@Finhead said in Daphne help?:

@Riverstorm
Great you got it all sorted.
Keylist to configure Daphne dapinput.ini file.

I did find that link but aren't those keyboard values? I was trying to find values for joystick directionals (just the D-pad) and not the joystick buttons which are easy to find with the jstest program. Jstest shows the D-pad as an axis and not an actual value like the buttons. I mainly use an XBOX 360 controller with wireless dongle. The first line in my dainput.ini is this:
KEY_UP = 273 114 h0up (which I am pretty sure the h0up is incorrect).

I think the D-pad is using the 273 keyboard input value (up arrow) which also works the same for the keyboard and joystick D-pad? So the arrow keys on the keyboard are what is working for the joystick? I don't know exactly how the inputs work but my joystick is working correctly and I don't know why exactly.

darthpaul

After spending hours trying to get past the error message that Fin was getting I had another idea. All my Roms are on a separate USB/SDCard, so I put the Daphne roms and files in the default roms folder and it worked. Can anyone explain why Daphne doesn't like the roms on a separate usb drive?

mediamogul

@darthpaul

I take it that the method you used for external USB migration involves modifying /home/pi/.emulationstation/es_systems.cfg? If that is the case, you can still keep all the larger game files externally in whatever 'daphne' folder you want, but you must also create /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/for the smaller rom files. I originally had mine setup that way, but found that the symlinking an external rom folder to satisfy RetroPie's default expectations caused much fewer headaches when updating the system.

Edit: In answer to your question. The setting for Daphne's expected rom location is just in a different location than the es_systems.cfg where it expects to find the location of the other game files. It might even be hard coded.

mediamogul

@darthpaul

I just have discovered that Daphne expects to find its roms in the application root directory at /opt/retropie/emulators/daphne/roms/. However, this is nothing more than a symlink that points to /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/. Knowing this, one could migrate their game files externally by altering the es_systems.cfg and replace the symlink with one pointed to the new external daphne directory, allowing both the roms and the game files to be external.

darthpaul

@mediamogul Thanks, I'm going to look into that.

megananthony

Hello Gang,
I am officially Stumped. I have checked, rechecked and triple checked my settings and i can not for the life of me get Daphne up and Runnin.
I have the most recent daphne version installed. I'm trying to get Dragon's Lair up and running.

I have it working on the pc with no issues. Downloaded Daphne, put i my DVD, went through the verification and all that. I installed Daphne through retropie (from Source)and seemed to installed with no problems. It's a retropie 3 with the most recent updates. I took the Rom folder and added it to ~~\retropie\roms\daphne\roms and the took the .m2v the txt and the ogg files , added to lair.daphne folder (and added that to folder to the daphne folder)
the txt files's first line is blank and second line reads 151 lair.m2v

i've tried a bunch of stuff (added the rom called dle21 over to the rom folder, created a new dl21.daphne folder (and all that jazz)

I reboot and ..well, no daphne emulator to select from emulationstation.

I dont think it is the rom file and the folder structre, but i have absolutely no clue!
Guess i'm wondern if there is a way to check a log file to see whats going on.

I can post any/all info if needed.

Please, Obi Wan, you are my only hope.

megananthony

Just a brief update that may be part of the issue:

. I have seen posts stating the ROM image (lair.zip) should be large (approx. 7 GB, give or take) . Mine is 18 KB, which is the same size of the install video i watched . THe .M2v file (approx 800 megs) , OG file and TXt file all match up in size with this video as well.

andrea_ita

hello everyone... I ask help for retropie and daphne with "xin mo - joystick"
all emu are ok, with joystick, except Dapne.
could someone kindly copy me the setting of the file dapinput.ini keys?

my file:

#value found by vtest js1
#button 1 - 10
#button 2 - 11
#button 3 - 12
#button 4 - 13
#select 19
#start 18

[KEYBOARD]
KEY_UP = 273 114 5
KEY_DOWN = 274 102 7
KEY_LEFT = 276 100 8
KEY_RIGHT = 275 103 6
KEY_BUTTON1 = 306 97 14
KEY_BUTTON2 = 308 115 15
KEY_BUTTON3 = 32 113 16
KEY_START1 = 49 0 18
KEY_START2 = 50 0 0
KEY_COIN1 = 53 0 19
KEY_COIN2 = 54 0 0
KEY_SKILL1 = 304 119 0
KEY_SKILL2 = 122 105 0
KEY_SKILL3 = 120 107 0
KEY_SERVICE = 57 0 0
KEY_TEST = 283 0 0
KEY_RESET = 284 0 0
KEY_SCREENSHOT = 293 0 0
KEY_QUIT = 27 113 0
END

columboscoat

@andrea_ita I would ask for help on the Daphne forums. You are more likely to get an answer. Daphne is fairly niche and doesn't seem to be a big thing with RetroPie users.

andrea_ita

@columboscoat said in Daphne help?:

@andrea_ita I would ask for help on the Daphne forums. You are more likely to get an answer. Daphne is fairly niche and doesn't seem to be a big thing with RetroPie users.
thanks for your reply.. have you a link of it? regards

columboscoat

@andrea_ita or start your own thread... rather than tagging on the end of a 9 month old, unsolved topic. Google it. I can't be bothered. Maybe try looking for your own solution first?