SNES Mini Classic Edition

Aphex

This post is deleted!

Aphex

@ruckage Sure. It's just that i'm not passing the chance to get one. It might even have a worse pricing explosion when it gets out of stock. I don't mind being sold something at an expensive rate when it's rare, but i think it's a problem when it is allowed for a contracted distribution partner to sell the whole pre-order stock away to 3rd party distributors with less respect for the suggested retail price. This should be prevented, both by comercial court and consumer protection law.

twd

@aphex nothing in that package is rare. Accept the case and then that will be copied about 1 minute after China's bootleggers get it. But it's your money

Aphex

@twd said in SNES Mini Classic Edition:

China's bootleggers

This is why i doubt it's gonna be the same quality. I haven't seen any good imitation of the NES Classic (at least not meeting my quality standards). Even when it comes to Raspberry cases, all i can find are shabby-looking 3D-printed stuffs. The only good one i've found so far is the Retroflag's NESPi Case, and here too it's either sold out, or sold 10x the price from other people buying their stock.

ruckage

@aphex said in SNES Mini Classic Edition:

@ruckage Sure. It's just that i'm not passing the chance to get one. It might even have a worse pricing explosion when it gets out of stock. I don't mind being sold something at an expensive rate when it's rare

That's the problem though, this isn't rare. The Nes and Snes classic are only scarce because of scalpers hoarding them. If people just refused to pay the the outlandish prices that the scalpers are charging they would have no incentive to buy them. There are still loads of NES classics available but they are all in the hands of scalpers.
By buying from the scalpers you become part of the problem. As I said though it's your money and your choice.

A simple solution would be for Nintendo to stop having limited runs of these but I don't see that happening as Nintendo repeats this pattern time and time again.

MrJordaaany

@ruckage said in SNES Mini Classic Edition:

@aphex said in SNES Mini Classic Edition:

@ruckage Sure. It's just that i'm not passing the chance to get one. It might even have a worse pricing explosion when it gets out of stock. I don't mind being sold something at an expensive rate when it's rare

That's the problem though, this isn't rare. The Nes and Snes classic are only scarce because of scalpers hoarding them. If people just refused to pay the the outlandish prices that the scalpers are charging they would have no incentive to buy them. There are still loads of NES classics available but they are all in the hands of scalpers.
By buying from the scalpers you become part of the problem. As I said though it's your money and your choice.

A simple solution would be for Nintendo to stop having limited runs of these but I don't see that happening as Nintendo repeats this pattern time and time again.

100% this. Don't encourage the practice.

twd

I just don't buy nintendo products anymore because of there scummy buisness practice .... They just take from there fans and don't give , you can not blame scalpers it's capitalism blame nintendo for producing 3

PokeEngineer

@twd

In my opinion, it's both Nintendo's and the scalpers' fault. Like @MrJordaaany said, Nintendo liked to drip feed stock to retailers for the NES Classic (I hope it isn't the same this time). Also, Nintendo, for some reason, doesn't take action against the scalpers and then, these scumbags take advantage of it and will use all means necessary to scoop up all the stock and sell them back to people at ridiculous prices just to make a quick buck. And now, these products can't be found anywhere, so now what can you do? That's right, your only option is to buy them from these scumbags, fueling the scalp train even more! Unless Nintendo does something about this, it's a never ending cycle... :(

ruckage

@pokeengineer

Agreed, and sadly I think the drip feeding of stock will happen again. I believe Nintendo instructed retailers here to offer pre-orders on a staggered release schedule (they have gone live on several sites in the UK at least 3 times and sold out instantly - not sure if this was an attempt to curb scalping but it hasn't worked.)

Thing is they must know the demand is there and if they committed to producing stock for a longer period of time to meet demand there wouldn't be these issues. I think Nintendo wants the frenzy this causes but as with @twd it just puts me off buying from them which is a shame as I've been a fan of Nintendo games and consoles for a long while. If by some miracle there is enough stock made and it's available to buy legitimately in store/online after release day I'll buy one otherwise I just can't be bothered with the hassle. There is no way however much I want a SNES classic that I'm giving my money to the scalpers - I can live without it.

twd

I wish sega would come back. consoles lost there soul as soon as sega held there hands up and surrendered. Their back catolouge is huge maybe 3x that of nintendo .... We can dream "cast"

toychotomy

@twd said in SNES Mini Classic Edition:

I wish sega would come back. consoles lost there soul as soon as sega held there hands up and surrendered. Their back catolouge is huge maybe 3x that of nintendo .... We can dream "cast"

I could not agree more. I remember being utterly gobsmacked when I heard the news that they were bowing out from hardware entirely. While I never considered myself loyal to one system or another, I was certainly a "Sega/Genesis kid" growing up; the controller, the early arcade ports, the FM synth and (admittedly ridiculous) "edgy marketing" were all right up my alley.

The amount of money it would require for a company to enter the current/next generation console arena must be nigh-unfathomable (and I'm every bit sure that Sega couldn't scrape together even half of what it would take), but I always maintain this silly dream that Sega might one day spring back into the fray with a new system. They'd likely bungle it as bad as they have with so many of their beloved classic franchises but it'd be fun to watch!

Ranma

Dumb question, but do we know the actual specs of the SNES Mini at this stage? How does it compare to both the NES Mini and the Pi 3?

+1 on the Sega comments above.

drake999

@mediamogul The reason for the heightened enthusiasm for the SNES mini over the NES mini (in my opinion) is that the NES is seen as too primitive to a large portion of retro gamers these days. I grew up in the 80's and 90's and I owned a NES and an Atari 2600 before it. Both of these consoles were basically just toys to me. I wasn't truly impressed with video games until the 16-bit era. When the Genesis and SNES came out is when I became a serious gamer, so 16-bit and 32-bit titles are the ones I have the most affection for, minus exceptions like Super Mario 3 and Castlevania for the NES, and Defender and Asteroids for the 2600. I suspect this viewpoint may be fairly common among retro gamers from my generation.

twd

@ranma I put money on it it's the sameboard as the nes mini it's a arm soc, if you search nes min classic uart it will come up in Google

drake999

@twd I agree and I've actually speculated the same thing. The original NES mini had specs similar to that of a Raspberry Pi, though with much less memory. The NES mini hardware, based on what I know about the board, is perfectly capable of SNES emulation. They probably used the same SoC, though I suspect they may have increased the storage capacity, and possibly the RAM.

twd

@drake999 I just googled the snes mini rear and the ports match the orientation of the nes mini one is upside down .. Apparently it's as powerfull as a wii. so no n64 mini classic on that board. I suspect it's the exact same board but like you said bigger storage chip in same form factor

PokeEngineer

@twd said in SNES Mini Classic Edition:

Apparently it's as powerfull as a wii. so no n64 mini classic on that board.

Well, looks like the Wii just got roasted.