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    • DD-IndeedD
      DD-Indeed
      last edited by

      Man, this is so cute, I put a lighter next to it to give some scale :D

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      The double sided tape that came with it was actually thermal tape with sticky sides, so it could actually be good. But nevertheless, I'll do the tests with other things first.

      My soul rests, when I hear the PS1 boot music

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      • spruce_m00seS
        spruce_m00se
        last edited by

        i like the non standard size lighter for scale :)

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        • DD-IndeedD
          DD-Indeed @spruce_m00se
          last edited by

          @spruce_m00se

          The blades themselves are roughly the size of certain coins, so they're really small. I have some pessimistic feelings about this, since it is very small, but we know more later today. :)

          My soul rests, when I hear the PS1 boot music

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          • spruce_m00seS
            spruce_m00se
            last edited by

            it will probably sound like you have a swarm of angry mosquitos inside your case aswell :)

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            • DD-IndeedD
              DD-Indeed @spruce_m00se
              last edited by

              @spruce_m00se

              That's also something I'm afraid. But, I can always use the 3.3V line instead of that 5V, to make them run a bit more quieter.

              My soul rests, when I hear the PS1 boot music

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              • spruce_m00seS
                spruce_m00se @DD-Indeed
                last edited by

                @dd-indeed a bit, I tried that with one, and it drove me MAD!

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                • spruce_m00seS
                  spruce_m00se @DD-Indeed
                  last edited by

                  @dd-indeed I actually bought a cheapo android based KODI box because the PI got so hot running KODI and the fan was annoying me too much, so 30 USD for a kodi box and it seems more responsive anyway and has an IR remote, so happy days, stuck it on a laptop cooling pad and its all gravy

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                  • DD-IndeedD
                    DD-Indeed
                    last edited by DD-Indeed

                    Now I actually ran into pretty foolish trouble: I can't find a single benchmark test, that could be used via command line of the Retropie. Only ones I've found require OS to boot.

                    Edit: Nevermind, found one simple Linux test to be used with this.

                    My soul rests, when I hear the PS1 boot music

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                    • DD-IndeedD
                      DD-Indeed
                      last edited by DD-Indeed

                      Raspberry Pi 3 - Ultimate Dual Fan-cooler Tests

                      Overclock settings:

                      arm_freq=1300
                      gpu_freq=525
                      core_freq=250
                      sdram_freq=500
                      over_voltage=4
                      v3d_freq=500
                      force_turbo=1
                      avoid_pwm_pll=1
                      disable_splash=1

                      Commands used to do CPU tests:

                      • vcgencmd measure_temp

                      • sysbench --test=cpu --num-threads=8 --cpu-max-prime=50000 run

                      I ran the test multiple times until I reached the max temp for each setup.

                      Temp results:

                      With my original customized chipset cooler with 40 mm 5V fan = around 50 C

                      Without cooler = Over 80 C, thermal throttling warning visible

                      Ultimate Dual Fan-cooler with included thermal adhesive tape = 77 C + thermal throttling

                      Ultmate Dual Fan-cooler with copper plates and thermal paste = 70 C, no thermal throttling thou.

                      So yea, this device is piece of crap with the thermal tape, absolutely useless. And, when you apply copper plates with thermal paste, the results improve slightly.
                      As a ''straight-out-of-the-box-and-bolt-on-device'', it's not good, nowhere near of good, and even with improvements, it's still crap.

                      Conclusion: I'm not recommending this at all. Waste of money and time.

                      My soul rests, when I hear the PS1 boot music

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                      • P
                        PiBoy
                        last edited by

                        The dual fan test results are almost identical to what I got when I attached a fan with a heatsink to the CPU. Mine idled around 42 and topped out at 68 (with overclocking). However, I used the adhesive that came with the heatsink, which may have been that 9448 tape stuff, non conductive.

                        I am not convinced the SMC needs to be there, that second fan might not be doing anything.

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                        • spruce_m00seS
                          spruce_m00se @DD-Indeed
                          last edited by

                          @dd-indeed how do you run this test? I may run it on mine with the big cooler and see what happens

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                          • spruce_m00seS
                            spruce_m00se
                            last edited by

                            well i just did some heat tests,
                            27.5 ambient
                            51-52 on idle no fan
                            38 idle with fan
                            53 q3 playing with fan
                            67 q3 playing q3 no fan
                            Crashed.

                            from playing q3 with no fan in the past it used to give the temp warning sign after about ten mins, but this time it crashed before it got that far

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                            • DD-IndeedD
                              DD-Indeed @spruce_m00se
                              last edited by DD-Indeed

                              @spruce_m00se

                              And you used stock clock settings for the Raspberry ?

                              Here's the test I tried:

                              (https://askubuntu.com/questions/634513/cpu-benchmarking-utility-for-linux)

                              ''Actually there is a a tool named as sysbench.

                              You can install it with sudo apt-get install sysbench

                              To CPU benchmarking you can do like:

                              sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run

                              where 20000 is like max event count.

                              --cpu-max-prime=20000 is optional, the default being 10000. I suggest to keep the default and fiddle with --max-requests instead (which is the number of operations performed)

                              Also note that by default this is a single-threaded test. For testing N cores you can use --num-threads=N (N = Any number you desire, I used 8 to properly stress the system. -DD), and compare results using the per-request statistics output.''

                              So, I used this command in my tests:

                              sysbench --test=cpu --num-threads=8 --cpu-max-prime=50000 run

                              And immediately after that, I checked the temps with this command:

                              vcgencmd measure_temp

                              I'm not expert on Linux commands, so maybe someone could create simple script from these, that could be easily accessed and used for these tests.

                              My soul rests, when I hear the PS1 boot music

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                              • T
                                Translations
                                last edited by Translations

                                Just wanted to give my experience with these kits as I just got mine a few weeks ago, I have one of these dual fan kits in a Nespi case with the Pi overclocked to 1.35 and I have yet to get a single temp icon. Before the kit when I was just using heat sinks on the stock clock speed I was consistently getting the temp icon after about 45min of play time, so it does work and it is extremely quiet. Come on guys this thing cost $13 shipped from China, not sure how you can complain?

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  It’s worked excellent for me. A little loud but other than that it’s really cooled my pi off.

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