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      iggy @schnautz
      last edited by iggy

      @schnautz

      K i see whats wrong...for Vin and Vout, you neg wires need to be connected to the pad that says GND on the mosfet board.....currently, for Vin, your neg lead is connect to both pads labeled Vin. Same with Vout. Have a look at Yahmez's pics to see what Im talkin bout .

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        schnautz @iggy
        last edited by schnautz

        @iggy Ahh, i see it now. Tbh i rushed it a little bit. I guess this is what happens when you do that.

        Thanks to both of you.

        Edit: Workes like a charm now. Thanks again.

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          iggy
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          @schnautz Nice! Glad you got it sorted!

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            RollerAce
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            hi all this is my first post.
            @Yahmez first of all thanks for posting your work then..I'm better at programming then electronics, so can you please explain why I need a mosfet and a diode?I cant simpli connect the power switch to GPIO?

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              ortsac
              last edited by ortsac

              @Yahmez Do you happen to have a schematic of the before and after modifications? I intend to port the same type of modifications to PowerBlock unit in an NES console case Power/Reset switches.

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                Yahmez @RollerAce
                last edited by

                @rollerace
                The mosfet is basically an electronic power switch, like a relay. Using it allows you to turn off the power switch and have the pi shut down and then cut the power. If you wire the power button directly to the GPIO you can still have the pi shut down but the power LED on the case will remain lit, so you would have to wire it to a gpio as well if you wanted it to turn off without unplugging the PSU. Also, even in shutdown the pi (still connected to the PSU) will continue to draw a nominal amount of current. The diodes are required to make the circuit work, blocking voltage in the required directions to allow the circuit to function the way I needed it to.

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                  Yahmez @ortsac
                  last edited by

                  @ortsac
                  I do not have a schematic drawn up, but I can tell you that the components used were chosen to work together with the Pololu mosfet board. It depends on the additional transistor switch on that board to function as I used it in the case hack. I never really drew up a schematic (although I almost always do) but I simulated the circuit instead based on the schematic provided by pololu. I might be able to draw something up for you though if I find some free time. Wondering why you are wanting to use the power brick instead of the mosfet board though... It's 5 or 6 times the price.

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                    THRobinson
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                    I just bought this for a build for my niece's xmas gift, and when I saw how well it was made I ordered one for myself... luckily, I was about the last one before that supplier ran out. :D

                    Didn't know until after about the shutdown/reset issues on these. Seems a rather dumb design that could have been fixed when they came out with the new batch.

                    Anyways... I'm a NOOB at this stuff, so probably a stupid question I have... but... when I was looking to build an arcade cabinet, I wanted to add a power off switch and it was pretty much just a momentary switch, connected with 2 wires to the Pi and a shutdown script.

                    Looking at the OP, the MOD has capacitors, resistors, etc... is it more difficult than it needs to be?

                    Can't the buttons just be bypassed on the board, and wires going direct from the buttons to the GPIO pins? 2 wires for the power, 2 wires for the reset, and add a script?

                    Again, I'm a NOOB... but, without the case, adding a safe power off button was just 2 wires and a script, I don't recall seeing a tut requiring capacitors and resistors, etc...

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                      cyperghost @THRobinson
                      last edited by cyperghost

                      @throbinson said in Retroflag NESPi Case - Soft Power & Reset Hack:

                      Again, I'm a NOOB... but, without the case, adding a safe power off button was just 2 wires and a script, I don't recall seeing a tut requiring capacitors and resistors, etc...

                      Really? It's just a question what you are want to do ;)
                      The solution in this video is just a "standby" shutdown. The Pi and all voltage output (means a external HDD or fan are still powered) If this is enough for you then fine :)

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                        Yahmez @THRobinson
                        last edited by

                        @throbinson I literally just answered this question only two posts above yours. lol

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                        • THRobinsonT
                          THRobinson
                          last edited by THRobinson

                          Ah I getcha... kind of a standby or sleep mode, not a powered off mode.

                          Is the OP method the best one? I saw a video on that ETAPrime's YouTube chanel that looked easy enough, but also saw posts saying that it for some reason works for some people, not others.

                          I don't mind the extra work, and I have a big bin of caps and resistors (started to teach myself simple stuff with DIY's for guitar pedals) I just want to make sure that if there was a 'best' solution out there, that I pick the right one.

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                            sabinn
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                            @Yahmez any chance you can run a search on amazon.CA for a recommended mosfet? I'm really looking forward to performing this mod, just need a to find a mosfet the doesn't cost me $100 outside my country (Canada) :)

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                              Yahmez @sabinn
                              last edited by

                              @sabinn I don't see anything you can get from Amazon. Check out Pololu's Canadian distributors. https://www.pololu.com/distributors#Canada

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                                Yahmez @THRobinson
                                last edited by

                                @throbinson best is in the eye of the beholder. Personally if it was between eta primes hack or mine... Well I'd go with mine. I'm not interested in safe shutdown with the reset button and it's why I went to the trouble of making the hack, I wanted it to function just like the original NES.

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                                  druz
                                  last edited by druz

                                  First of all, a big thank you Yahmez for sharing this wonderful power switch solution.

                                  For those of you that can't buy the pololu mini mosfet switch, you can build a simplified version with just a single P-channel power MOSFET (I used a TPC8114) and omit the gate protection zener diode, reverse voltage protection MOSFET as chances of that happening with an usb power supply is fairly minimal. I have done that and built everything on top of the existing power pcb. Functionally, it works the same as the pololu switch board sans the protections. However, be for warned, to build it this way requires good soldering technique and eyesight :P

                                  At the top is any general purpose NPN transistor, MOSFET is square piece on bottom right
                                  alt text

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                                    xFlesk
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                                    @druz sounds like nice idea. it would be great to see it on a picture ;) dont give up uploading it, maybe try with imgur or something ?
                                    cheers ;)

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                                      THRobinson @druz
                                      last edited by

                                      @druz said in Retroflag NESPi Case - Soft Power & Reset Hack:

                                      First of all, a big thank you Yahmez for sharing this wonderful power switch solution.

                                      For those of you that can't buy the pololu mini mosfet switch, you can build a simplified version with just a single P-channel MOSFET (I used a TPC8114) and omit the reverse voltage protection as chances of that happening with an usb power supply is fairly minimal. I have done that and built everything on top of the existing power pcb. Functional, it works the same as the pololu switch board. However, be for warned, to build it this way requires good soldering technique and eyesight :P
                                      ![0_1511341382754_IMG_1194small.JPG](Uploading 100%)
                                      hmmm.... having trouble uploading an image!!

                                      If online somewhere like IMGUR or Photobucket etc... maybe try right clicking it and clicking on 'copy image address'.

                                      I had a few issues with IMGUR in forums and doing that versus using their copy link pop-up worked much better.

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                                        THRobinson
                                        last edited by

                                        As good as this mod looks... I was wondering if a simpler (fewer parts) method at all?

                                        Having the power/reset work like a real NES is great, but I'd like to have something like the RESET sending a safe power off command, and the POWER shutting the power off/turning on the system.

                                        Would that be a simpler mod? Is that what the ETAPrime mod does? Video shows him pressing the RESET button a few times, but never shows what the POWER button does.

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                                          Hazelnutz
                                          last edited by Hazelnutz

                                          Hey Guys

                                          hoping you could help me out here, just finished doing the mod and it powers up ok but a few issues

                                          1. failed the hardware test, it can power up without the ON cable plugged into the Fan + pin and it will stay on
                                          2. fan does not get any power

                                          found the problem
                                          The + pin on the fan was not soldered properly, the board is not double sided

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                                          • THRobinsonT
                                            THRobinson
                                            last edited by

                                            Still on the fence... ETAPrime vs this... was looking at the Pololu site, and it says to use either item #2810 or #2811... is one better than the other? or makes no difference at all?

                                            Use to be someone on eBay selling kits, shame not anymore... think about $12CAD.

                                            Prob is being in Canada, the part is about $4.50CAD but $20CAD to ship it.

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