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    mitu Global Moderator @Reechard
    last edited by 28 Feb 2018, 18:07

    @reechard said in Automatically Launch Last Played Game (or a specific game):

    I see this getting requested a LOT

    Where ?

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      Reechard @mitu
      last edited by Reechard 28 Feb 2018, 18:36

      @mitu

      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/27429

      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/114644

      https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/issues/1648

      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/35503

      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/67713

      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/21788

      Yes, some (most) of these are solved with rc.local scripts and editing scripts, but this is something that could easily be integrated into the actual frontend and not require manual intervention. I glossed over the literally dozens of "how do I auto launch Kodi" threads.

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        mitu Global Moderator @Reechard
        last edited by mitu 28 Feb 2018, 18:45

        @reechard said in Automatically Launch Last Played Game (or a specific game):

        I glossed over the literally dozens of "how do I auto launch Kodi" threads

        This is already implemented - https://retropie.org.uk/docs/FAQ/#how-do-i-boot-to-the-desktop-or-kodi.

        As for all the other threads, they're really seem more in the vein of 'I want to launch one emulator/rom only', which is perfectly reasonable, but for this you don't need to install RetroPie or Emulationstation. RetroPie provides this - modify the auto-start script and use the Runcommand to start your particular game.
        There was another request - also now implemented - to have ES start on a particular system, if you all you need is one system.

        I don't see in the threads you linked any specific request for 'start ES with the last ROM played'. What's your use case ?

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          Reechard
          last edited by Reechard 28 Feb 2018, 19:15

          @mitu said in Automatically Launch Last Played Game (or a specific game):

          https://retropie.org.uk/docs/FAQ/#how-do-i-boot-to-the-desktop-or-kodi

          "manually edit this bash script to do what you want to do" is a bit in-depth for something that is requested this much. I'm putting in a feature request because it is requested often enough that it should be a gui-selectable feature, not something that requires google and a text editor. That's what "feature requests" are for....

          Use case is "be as user friendly as possible without on-boot intervention". If you've ever dropped a non-nerd in front of any type of gaming machine that requires you to make a choice of any kind, whether it be a Pandora's Box multiboard, a 60in1 multiboard, or even a regular-old NeoGeo 4-slot, the end-user immediately gets totally and completely lost and frustrated and either plays what's on the screen or walks away. Having a game auto-start and the system be running a single game, with the option for a technical moderator to change the game if requested, is preferable to having an end-user make any decisions at all, ever.

          Having the system boot and immediately look inviting and ready to go provides a better end-user experience than a menu. The worst thing about arcade multi-boards is that they boot into menus.

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            mitu Global Moderator @Reechard
            last edited by 28 Feb 2018, 20:10

            @reechard said in Automatically Launch Last Played Game (or a specific game):

            "manually edit this bash script to do what you want to do" is a bit in-depth for something that is requested this much. I'm putting in a feature request because it is requested often enough that it should be a gui-selectable feature, not something that requires google and a text editor. That's what "feature requests" are for....

            Sure, but make an argument for your use case. Other people have requested:

            • Boot to Kodi - already implemented through a selection
            • Boot on emulator - that's not supported without scripting.
            • Boot on Game/ROM - that's not supported without scripting.

            Having a game auto-start and the system be running a single game, with the option for a technical moderator to change the game if requested, is preferable to having an end-user make any decisions at all, ever.

            I respectfully disagree. Choice does not make an end-user immediately gets totally and completely lost and frustrated.

            Regardless, you seem to want a setting for the system to be locked to one game, am I correct ?

            You can do from ES right now - mark one game as a Kid game, set the system to enter the game's system, then set the ES to work in Kid mode.
            The system will only show 1 system/game that you can start.

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              Reechard @mitu
              last edited by 28 Feb 2018, 20:33

              @mitu

              No... I don't want it locked to one game. I want it to boot up and automatically start a game so that it boots and is immediately playable without touching buttons. Then you can still hit Start+Select to back out to ES and pick another game. I'm not sure what about this is difficult to understand, or what other "argument" is necessary for my case. I've already shown that it is requested pretty frequently... This is what feature requests are for. You see a gap in functionality and you ask to have it filled. I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse. Is there someone who understands what a User Interface is for that I can talk to?

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                mitu Global Moderator @Reechard
                last edited by 28 Feb 2018, 20:39

                @reechard said in Automatically Launch Last Played Game (or a specific game):

                I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse

                No, I'm just trying to understand what's your use case here. As you referenced the other posts for users asking for Kodi to be started on boot, this might already be there, but you might not be aware about it.
                Your topic is in the right place (RetroPie forums), so your audience is here.

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                  Alturis
                  last edited by 28 Feb 2018, 20:52

                  FWIW I can see how someone might like to have it boot right to a game when you turn it on but still allow you to choose other games.

                  Also FWIW I don't see that getting defensive and aggressive in your request for support is going to speed such a feature along. ;)

                  Just my 2 cents.

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                    pjft
                    last edited by 28 Feb 2018, 23:38

                    Also, just to share some perspective:

                    • the code is open. If anyone feels strongly about such use cases, they can certainly go ahead and implement them. Even if they don't end up on the main branch, they'll exist in a separate repository.
                    • the fact that a handful of people ask about something that seems similar to what you think is an idea, but somehow hasn't been implemented yet, should also suggest that either the use case isn't that common, that the existing people are comfortable with the workaround, or that that specific solution doesn't seem to be one that people feel it's the best one.

                    I personally don't feel that that should be part of EmulationStation, but more of a RetroPie Setup thing, similar to launching Kodi.

                    But that's just my opinion.

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                      Alturis @pjft
                      last edited by 1 Mar 2018, 00:23

                      @Reechard I totally get what you are saying. You want EmulationStation and all if its normal functionality. But you just want it so that when people are walking by a game is up and running when you first boot it up. (without having to do that yourself each time). Either a specific game or just the last game that someone was playing. (problem with the latter scenario is that I don't think EmulationStation writes any metadata out until it quits, so it would have to be the last game played when it was properly shut down not just the power shut off)

                      Totally makes sense and I can also see why you would want EmulationStation running in the background and ready to be dropped back into as normal.

                      Something akin to the "Start in System" option but a "Start in Game" option as well.

                      Probably not a common thing it seems but I can see how one might like it that way.

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