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Replacing RPi 2B -> 3B+ : Worth it?

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    iTolga
    last edited by iTolga 6 Mar 2018, 23:03 3 Jun 2018, 22:02

    Hi guys,

    I‘m running my bartop on a RPi 2B and thinking of replacing it with a RPi 3B+. Is it worth to do that?

    The advantages I found:

    • Integrated WiFi - Would replace the WiFi USB dongle on my RPi2B

    • 1400 MHz instead 800 MHz (performance boost)

    • More power consumption (My actual RPi 2B sometimes shows the lightning bolt with my used 2.5A power supply). Probably it would trigger it more often :(

    What‘s your opinion? Should I go on with the hardware upgrade oder wait for a RPi 4?

    Best regards,
    Tolga

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      dankcushions Global Moderator
      last edited by 3 Jun 2018, 22:19

      it depends if there are any games that you can't run at full speed now that you'd like to be able to.

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        BobHarris
        last edited by BobHarris 6 Mar 2018, 23:28 3 Jun 2018, 22:27

        What do you have hooked up to your Pi? I have a Pi 3 with often 4 usb slots in use (mouse, keyboard, controller, usb flash drive) and I've never seen the lightning bolt. Make sure you use a high quality adapter & micro usb cable, like the official Pi adapter.

        Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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          KN4THX @iTolga
          last edited by 4 Jun 2018, 02:08

          @itolga It'll easily be 8-12 months before the Pi 4 gets released. The Pi 3B+ also has better Bluetooth performance and better heat dissipation allowing it to run at the 1.4ghz cooler than previously when overclocked on a Pi 3. For the price it is a good upgrade, but as others said, it is only worth it if you have performance issues with emulators or other applications.

          Personally, for -$35 bucks, and the fact that I have to own every model, I always upgrade.

          "If you're gonna play the Game Boy, You gotta learn to play it right" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLGl92ETNQ

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            iTolga @BobHarris
            last edited by iTolga 6 Apr 2018, 07:03 4 Jun 2018, 06:02

            @bobharris To be honest, just one keyboard and the joystick controller. I specially bought a PSU wit 5V / 3A output and the Pi constantly showed me the lightning bolt. I tried different cables and found one that almost fixed the lightning bolt, so it came up more less than with the other PSU. So I replaced the PSU with another one, which has 4x USB 5A / 2,4A instead and the lightning bolt came up more less. Maybe it's a cable issue and I really don't want to buy a fake thick USB cable which has thin wires inside.
            Do you have a tip for me which brand I could take?

            @dankcushions There are some games which don't run but it's an emulator issue I think. Metal Slug for example is slow when playing it.

            @TheDataCereal Yes, you're right, mate. I have some performance issues with my 2B, for example when scrolling through the spinner (Attract Mode with RoboSpin theme). I also think I should try it with an upgrade.

            If I take the 3B+, can I just plug and play the microSD card and go on with RetroPie? Or does it need some installation and/or config stuff because of the hardware change?

            Thanks and best regards,
            Tolga

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              BobHarris @iTolga
              last edited by BobHarris 6 Apr 2018, 08:06 4 Jun 2018, 06:43

              @itolga No your current Jessie image won't work with the 3b+ (needs Stretch). It's recommended to start out with a fresh image. But some have succesfully converted their image from Jessie to Stretch.
              (Or buy a 3B instead..that one will accept your image just fine and the upgrade will fix the performance issues you're having now. The + is only marginally better..you have to play for example N64 games to notice a small difference.)

              My recommendation would be to get the official Pi 2.5 A adapter.

              By the way, some Metal slug games have slowdown by default. Some people like it that way (authenticity and all)...I don't, so in the ingame Retroarch menu I overclocked the emulated cpu to 150% and the slowdown is gone. (Especially the Shocktroopers games benefit from that.)

              Pi 3B , 64 GB Sandisk ultra flashdrive, 19 systems, 872 hand picked classic gaming gems :-) Dual shock 4v2

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                iTolga @BobHarris
                last edited by iTolga 6 Apr 2018, 08:24 4 Jun 2018, 07:24

                @bobharris My image is "Stretch" already and I ordered this PSU now: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01E75SB2C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                The user reviews of this product are great. I'm excited :)
                Thanks for the overclocking tip. I'll try that.

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