mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

Riverstorm

@grant2258 - It seems classic was removed in favor of 8-button. I downloaded from source again around midnight last night to verify. That layout in the diagram above is perfect. I don't even have sf2 in my build but adding it might be beneficial for testing more than 4 buttons. Can you suggest any 8-button games for testing that layout also? How do folks test 8 button games?

I think the point yesterday on posting both controller & keyboard configs when you asked was I guess I never put much thought into how others build-up RetroPie but I always think about controller and panel changes/repercussions at the same time and configure accordingly. I also try to align non-Libretro cores basic functionality inputs so they match Libretro cores. It makes them seamless to the average player. I keep two lines of thought going at all times so the discussion can get confusing at times.

Forums are nice for quick information but not ideal for chatting. An all day discussion in a forum can take place in about 15 minutes in person.

I did some testing with the OST options toggle but it seems to be always enabled. I tried core and ROM overrides. I couldn't find the option name in the override to verify so it doesn't seem to be writing out. This is a spit-n-shine option here. These type of additions are really nice touches.

markwkidd

I was the one who arbitrarily decided to hide the Classic layout in the hopes of starting with the most concise list possible but it does seem like we're going to add at least one more default layout.

Classic is still coded in there as dankcushions implemented it a few months back -- if we need it back it's just a matter of adding |Classicto the core option init for each of the players.

I may have rushed through a little of the spit polish a few days ago. I'll try not to code and run when I sit down to make these fixes.

I've also got NVRAM bootstraps to add for "Charlie Ninja" and all of the playable "Defender" clones.

grant2258

@markwkidd can you please call it gamepad classic. I want people to know know gamepads and arcade panels are completely seperate if that is ok

@Riverstorm the 8 panel is specifically for 8 panel arcade nothing else.

the snes sf2 pad layout and 6 panel match thats the only reason it was named 6 button

Riverstorm

@markwkidd - Ok thanks, That's the one I preferred as classic seems to be more suited to arcade gaming. Using the closest buttons on the pad (right/lower) primarily for firing, jumping, etc. and further buttons (left/up) for game functions less commonly used like a lobbing a grenade or activating a super-weapon.

I appreciate the OST option toggle even with a bug it's no big deal. Some days are just like that.

grant2258

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@markwkidd - Ok thanks, That's the one I preferred as classic seems to be more suited to arcade gaming. Using the closest buttons on the pad (right/lower) primarily for firing, jumping, etc. and further buttons (left/up) for game functions less commonly used like a lobbing a grenade or activating a super-weapon.

I appreciate the OST option toggle even with a bug it's no big deal. Some day are just like that.

the diagram was made from teh classic its still in the source just not use at the moment mr River. Im just making sure its mapped right for you

Riverstorm

@grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@Riverstorm the 8 panel is specifically for 8 panel arcade nothing else.

Hmmm, ok, so do you know of any 8 panel arcade games for testing the 8-button layout?

the diagram was made from teh classic its still in the source just not use at the moment mr River. Im just making sure its mapped right for you

Yes sir, that's what Mark just said.

grant2258

@Riverstorm

mame only uses 6 buttons but the maps need to match a core layout for it the 8 button. The 8 is identical to the 6 button at the moment with different physical maping check the diagrams uploaded and the post above for the explanation

https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-250-new-games-new-input-system-new-features-new-bugs/276

if you want to test the 8 panel binding play a psx game or core that uses l r l2 r2

Riverstorm

@grant2258 - Setting RA, RP, etc. aside for a moment. I was just trying to ascertain if there were/are any real arcade games that existed at one point that used 8 buttons.

grant2258

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@grant2258 - Setting RA, RP, etc. aside for a moment. I was just trying to ascertain if there were/are any real arcade games that existed at one point that used 8 buttons.

not that i know of to be honest the binding is just set for all cores compatability at the moment at.

it will probably end up
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for mame when i finish it for mame i set it up manually at the moment

its set to
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to show retropad physical mapping to different shapes

Riverstorm

@grant2258 - Ok, I was just looking for verification if such a game existed as I couldn't find any via a Google search either.

markwkidd

There is some big news. Tentative, but big so I'm going to hold off on too many fireworks. There may be bugs or unintended consequences. I think that grant and I are the only folks who've tested this code much at all.

After a major late-stages assist from @grant2258 I was able to complete the implementation of the four current RetroPad layouts as RetroPad "subclasses".

As discussed a page or two back, this means that the default layouts are no longer chosen in the Options menu but in the Controls menu. Folks that compile mame2003-plus now will get this new "Phase 4" input system.

If you want to test this, don't be surprised if you have to delete or change existing remap files. I have tested this only with a clean RetroArch environment with no saved remap files. Maybe existing remap files will work fine though!

Capeman

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

OMG OMG OMG! RAD MOBILE is on the gamelist! I'm trying this out tonight! That is my holy grail of unemulatable games on the pi!

A good game to tackle would be to get a more modern driver for Ninja Baseball Bat Man, that runs slow as yuck on the pi!

Amazing work! Cant wait to try it out!

The github page says Rad Mobile is one of the newly supported games in the wiki as of 0.63... but it still runs the same on 2003PLUS as it does on 2003 standard (choppy and buggy, exactly the same) - am i doing something wrong or do "supported games" on 2003PLUS not necessarily mean they are playable?

Edit* Mr. Driller is the same thing. It doesnt work on 2003 standard (it loads but never leaves the rom loading screen). It's on the supported gameslist on the 2003PLUS wiki, but it still doesnt work in the plus version either? I have a proper 0.78 romset, anything else i could be doing wrong?

Edit** Outfoxies is on the list for newly supported, but it runs exactly the same as 2003 and still has no sound.

grant2258

@capeman said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

0.78 romset, anything else i could be doing wrong?
Edit** Outfoxies is on the list for newly supported, but it runs exactly the

update your roms make the dat in mame or grab it from the metadata folder

Loggahead

Got a question. I just updated from source and found that the mame menu has changed and input general and input this game are no longer available. Did those options go somewhere else?

Loggahead

NVM, found my answer on github. Under Quick Menu \ Options, the very last setting is something like Use MAME Remappings. Setting that to enabled brought those options back.

pjft

@capeman I don't think the pi will run the Mr. Driller arcade version decently. Even on AdvMame it plays quite slow.

For your Mr. Driller fix I would recommend the PSX version or GBC, GBA or Wonderswan.

skj

@markwkidd

Is there anyway to disable the copyright/legal notice that pops up at the start of mame2003 plus?

markwkidd

@skj said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@markwkidd

Is there anyway to disable the copyright/legal notice that pops up at the start of mame2003 plus?

It can be disabled via the Options menu in the RetroArch GUI (the menu you get when you press Start+Select)

skj

@markwkidd

Thank you

GreenHawk84

Any possibility of Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder backward support? Currently that game has some issues in Mame2003.

Can I ask what exactly has been improved (as of today) with Mortal Kombat 2 and Ultimate MK3?