Game(s) you hate with a passion

[BobHarris]

@dankcushions My strategy for the souls games is grind, grind and grind some more. :) So I spend 90+ hours on DeSo on my first playthrough..almost finished all of the worlds when my PS3 Ylod'ed. I'm still recovering from that!

But on topic I think the game that I will hate with a passion most of all hasn't come out yet. It's the Final Fantasy VII remake (I'm not the only worried person here I see :) )... I don't know if I can resist buying it, but I do know that I will hate the changes they will make in the battle system (action oriented) and the storylines (alterations and dumbing down) and probably the character models and voices too (I still dread the voice they used for Tidus in FFX). To me it feels comparable to remaking a movie like Pulp Fiction...I will watch it, but I'm pretty sure I won't like it.

[m2306]

I’ve been planning on posting in this thread for a while now but haven’t had the time until now since I suspect it’ll become a long story. On a general note, I dropped out of playing new games after the PS/N64 generation. I loved the Zeldas, FFVII etc. but couldn’t find the time to play those long and big games anymore. Also, for some reason the new games didn’t feel as enchanting as they had before. I got back to gaming when I got an iPhone eight years ago or so. It was a completely different world, didn’t enjoy it especially but it was cheap and easily accesible. After casual mobile gaming for a few years, trying many of the biggest and most popular games, I started resenting how the free to play and super addictive design of these games made gaming feel more like drug abuse than anything I could remember from my gaming years before. I knew better games were available for other platforms so I got a Wii but the games didn’t really feel all that amazing. I also hacked the Wii, trying to make something like what Retropie is today. I didn’t like the outcome, the user interface of the Wii (and the 3ds also actually) is a nightmare compared to the Apple products I was used to (not trying to open a can of worms here, personal preference I guess). Anyways, what I’m trying to say is, I couldn’t find a satisfactory platform or type of games that I would really enjoy. To get to the point, around two years ago I found an iOS game called Dandy Dungeon:

It contained som sort of paywall, a few iaps were needed to play properly, amounting to something like 10€ or 15€. The game was a bit expensive for iOS but it was so much fun. Very retro but perfectly adapted for mobile and really clever and funny, some really weird humour. You could have a continue at death for 1€ a pop but it was clearly for the casuals and not at all needed for advancement. Retrying the levels didn’t take much time, was fun and added to the excitement and satisfaction of clearing a level. Continuing with money often only resulted in another death because it was usually a question of the wrong strategy to begin with. I thoroughly enjoyed the game and kept playing for quite some time as new levels were added and the story was fleshed out. At some point the game got updated to part two and basically a whole new game opened up. It came with some sort of iap but I felt I was getting a lot for the money and really wanted to support the guys making such and excellent game. What I didn’t see initially was how they slowly started turning the game into a total cashgrab. They introduced item after item that was only available through iap and essential to keep playing. The game also started having timed events that needed real money to beat and unique and essential items as prizes, items that could never again be had after the event ended. Some of the event’s were also very repetitive and thus downright boring. You really had to play regularly and actively, open the game in the middle of the night etc. to stay ahaed. It became very stressful and I only then realized how hooked I was and how the game I had enjoyed so much had become something very different. I was so dissapointed. I can say that I really hate Dandy Dungeon. I also recent the developers. I understand the want and need for money but I know they designed some cool games before and what they did now was just pissing on us players and their own game, turning it to something it hadn’t been from the start. After playing for almost a year I deleted the game and quit the Discord chat. It was hard but it felt great getting rid of it finally. I will never play a free to play game again.

I also want to say that I really enjoy Retropie and will likely keep playing retro games only for a very long time. So many classics to replay and so many new (old) games that I haven’t played yet. Nice forum this as well. Cheers.

[VictimRLSH]

@m2306 Now THAT is why I quit playing Battle Pirates. The game was like crack and the first few hits were sublimely addictive. The early game PvP was beautiful, and free!!! But then...

To this day there are people that will dump their whole paycheck into buying crap in that game. KIxeye is #%&*ing evil.

Modern gaming is broken, but there are a couple rays of hope. One 'free to play' game that is genuinely fun that I still play is World of Warships. Yes, you can buy ships, but you can win most of the 'premium' ships and there are plenty of free (and fun) missions to get anything else that people pay for. Competition is kept on a level field and everything is still available even to the free players. Another ray of light was Zelda: Breath of the Wild on the Nintendo Switch. My wife is at 800hrs+ of play and has not yet discovered everything. Gimassive amount of gameplay for the price.

I guess my real peeve with modern gaming is you can't just buy a game and have a game to play, it will always be incomplete in some way or it just feeds on addiction science to squeeze money out of players and not provide any real gameplay.

[Clyde]

@victimrlsh said in Game(s) you hate with a passion:

I guess my real peeve with modern gaming is you can't just buy a game and have a game to play, it will always be incomplete in some way or it just feeds on addiction science to squeeze money out of players and not provide any real gameplay.

There are still many complete games available today, especially in the independent sector. Just look for them on the web, I can recommend the online store gog.com. They have plenty complete games for Windows, MacOS and Linux without any DRM. (I'm not related to gog in any way, just a satisfied customer.)

If you meant only mobile games, I don't have any experience with them.

[MadRikXIV]

Any Devil May Cry/Samurai Warriors games, I just don't get them.

Here's a metric tonne of enemies, a huge sword, keep mashing the button till you win, run somewhere, here's a lot more of them, mas that button, go on, try for a bigger combo, maybe try jumping around a lot...

[mat]

Any RPG, games like Dragon Warrior, FF and the like I could never get into. Text-based games like those that I didn't have the patience for.

Also never got into First Person Shooters. It seems everyone loves them, but I never got into them either. Now they seem to dominate today's games & it made me drift even further into "retro" games.

Lastly any of the Battletoads games. Even with cheats, I have a heck of a time with them. BUT, the arcade version is fun!

[m2306]

@mat I love FF and DW but find first person shooters really boring. Since a few years back I haven’t even been able to play fps games. I get motion sicknes. Well no prob, I like 2D so much more.

[celly]

@mat I too, am not a fan of FPS. We had Halo 1 and a big screen tv in the barracks back in the day. I was ok at that game back then. The rest, forget it. Seems like that the video game market is flooded with them. No thanks.

[thelostsoul]

Every generation has its own genres flooded by. I wasn't into Ego shooters too, until when I played the original Doom. Its so different from current games. The levels are dungeons like and very atmospheric. Also the new current Doom is cool. Not like Call of Duty and such...

[m2306]

Wolfenstein3D was cool and it was totally epic when Doom came along. Tried watching a gameplay video from the new Doom game, I got sick from just watchin the video.. X(

[BobHarris]

@thelostsoul I don't like fps games either, but I adore Bioshock..have you played it? It also has a wonderful, unique atmosphere.

[Brigane]

@bobharris I've played all three Bioshock games and I enjoyed every second if it. The whole story and the idea of a city beneath the sea to explorer is what got me hooked. Although the third Bioshock game (Bioshock Infinite) is going on above the clouds. I need to play this game again cause I never made it to the end.

[Clyde]

@brigane @BobHarris Do you know Bioshock's "spiritual predecessors" System Shock 1+2? If not, I can recommend them strongly, although SS1 may have a higher entry threshold for new players, because its controls are rather clunky compared to later years' standards.

SS2 is much more modern in this way, especially if upgraded with some of the many fan patches which replace its models and textures with more detailed ones, or fix some leftover bugs. For me, it perfectly combines first person controls with item management and world interaction, as you switch between direct FPS controls and a mouse pointer with a single keystroke.

Story-wise, having played SS1 deepens the experience of SS2 significantly in my opinion, since SS2 continues the storyline of SS1 some years later.

[mitu]

@clyde said in Game(s) you hate with a passion:

SS2 is much more modern in this way, especially if upgraded with some of the many fan patches which replace its models and textures with more detailed ones, or fix some leftover bugs

The Steam or GOG version should include all those patches and fixes. Highly recommended for any Bioshock fans. The recently released Prey claims to be a successor to the Shock games and looking at it you can see the similarities, but I don't think it manages to create the immersion and the atmosphere from the previous titles. Haven't got around to play it, but played/replayed the others.

[Clyde]

@mitu said in Game(s) you hate with a passion:

The Steam or GOG version should include all those patches and fixes.

According to this post in the GOG forum, the GOG build "has a few fixes for the most critical orig bugs, like that Rick quest not completing. whatever wasn't critical, was left alone."

You'll still have to use the SS2tool and/or Shock2 Community Patch (SCP) on the GOG build if you want their enhancements, too.

[BiZzAr721]

Duke Nukem Forever. Pre-ordered, paid full price. It was in the bargain bin within a couple of months. The only thing that got me as far as I did in the game was nastalgia. Never did finish it.

Also, really wanted SMB3 but a Caldor's store had none in stock and settled for Silent Service. Just couldn't get into it, especially after seeing SMB3 in The Wizard movie, but still not being able to try it!

[VictimRLSH]

@bizzar721 SMB3 is to this day one of the greatest games ever made for an 8-bit system.

[m2306]

@victimrlsh I fondly remember awaiting the release of SMB3. In my country it was schedueled for late summer or autumn. It was summer vacation and we had already seen pictures and read about the game. It looked amazing. Rumors about one guy already having the game started circulating the neighbourhood. Rumour had it that the guys dad had brought it from abroad (no idea how that would have worked with territorial lock out). When we started thinking about it nobody had seen the guy for a while. Now we were sure this guy was camped up inside, playing one of the best games ever. The whole thing culminated in me and several other guys camping in the staiwell outside the door of the SMB3 guys apartment. We were trying to peek through the mail slot but didn’t see or hear anything. We had to quit around five o’clock out of fear for the parents coming home from work. I never learned if the guy actually had the game beforehand or if he just was at summer camp or something. Later, when I could have asked him, I was too busy playing my own copy of SMB3. It was just as great as we had been expecting it to be.

[mat]

@m2306 I remember seeing "The Wizard" when it was in the theatre for the first time. SMB3 on the big screen was a drool moment. It seemed like forever for that game to come out.

I also remember in school, all through elementary and even high school, how much fun it was to bring in our backpacks the latest gaming magazines and huddle around & start talking about the latest games that were coming out, usually not until x-mas.

Always loved the Post-E3 & holiday issues, they were like Sears Catalogs that I could look at over and over.

[SgtJimmyRustles]

Hmm, my most hated game? Probably had to be Sonic 2 for the Game Gear/SMS. The first boss pissed me off so much because it never clicked how to beat him.

As far as recently, RUST has to be the worst game I've played. It's unoptimized and unfun when the other people immediately mob you and kill you.