Can't exit games using X-Arcade controller

BuZz

Please describe in more detail what you did to configure it with the driver "off" (using keyboard mode). eg steps to reproduce including how you mapped it, what emulator you used, and what you pressed to exit.

Please provide more information about your set-up - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

Jerkamie

@BuZz Well first the drivers work great, everything is working but you are trapped inside the emulator. Start and Select (player1 + left bumper) will not bring you out of the emulator.

Without the drivers, it also works but will again not let you out of the emulator. I've hooked up a keyboard to it and programmed my own inputs and, but again will not let you exit.

Jerkamie

@Jerkamie said in Can't exit games using X-Arcade controller:

@BuZz Well first the drivers work great, everything is working but you are trapped inside the emulator. Start and Select (player1 + left bumper) will not bring you out of the emulator.

Without the drivers, it also works but will again not let you out of the emulator. I've hooked up a keyboard to it and programmed my own inputs and, but again will not let you exit.

Pi Model: (B, B+, 2 B etc..) pi 3b
RetroPie Version Used: (3.5.0 or 3.6.0 etc..)
Built From: (SD Image, Binary, Source) sd image
USB Devices connected: usb keyboard
Controller used: xarcade stick
Error messages received:
Guide used: (Mention if you followed a guide)
File: (File with issue - with FULL path)
Emulator: (Name of emulator - if applicable)
Attachment of config files: (PLEASE USE PASTEBIN.COM FOR LARGE LOGS)
How to replicate the problem:

MikeDave

I had this exact issue. I'm not sure if it's an issue with the driver or with the internal X-Arcade programming. Either way I fixed it by changing my hotkey to a button that never gets used. Here's my response to that reddit post

BuZz

I still need more details. How is your x-arcade currently mapped to keyboard presses - defaults or your own (eg see in that youtube video above - they remap them). How have you mapped the controller in Emulation Station?

Which version of RetroPie are you using ?

Jerkamie

@BuZz sorry, I watched that video lastnight but it was so late I can't remember what I learned . I'll have to look tonight when I get home.

Jerkamie

@MikeDave I'll try that tonight but, I'd really like to get this running the way it was intended.

Jerkamie

@BuZz buzz there's 1 preprogrammed slot, which works great, but can't exit, I switched to slot 2 and programmed my own mapping with a keyboard. Still no exit.

BuZz

I need detailed information - what mappings etc - I cannot help without a detailed view of your configuration. Your replies are not giving me any information to work with.

Jerkamie

@BuZz okay well whatever mappings you program you still can't exit. It's not a problem with the mappings, it's a problem in the drivers with the drivers enabled, or with the drivers disabled, its a problem with the arcade stick, they won't send the key press start and select while pressed together. Hope this helps someone in the future, I'm going to try and return the xarcade stick.

Retropie should remove the drivers and remove any other documention claiming it's supported for the stick, ad it could lead to more people buying and returning the xarcade stick.

BuZz

I'm trying to help. I don't want to make any assumptions - that would be a bad way to debug the issue.

You are not being at all helpful.

If it is a start+select issue with the x-arcade hardware it might be because it is using them for something else (eg to switch some mode), or it could be a bug. But you can then just change the hotkey enable button to something else - which is a simple task.

Jerkamie

I've been thinking about the problem all day. I was reading about a built in feature of the xarcade, it's set up that when you press player 2 and the bumper button it sends it's own key buttons to exit Mame in windows the same combination is used for start (a player button for start, and the bumper on the side as select) . This could be interfering with the combo retropie uses for exiting a game?

BuZz

I have done some digging. According to http://blog.petrockblock.com/2014/06/01/xarcade2jstick/ Select + Start is mapped to TAB (Which may be the problem in Retroarch) when using the XArcade2JStick - but reading the comments it should be fine in keyboard mode without the driver. I suspect you haven't disabled the driver correctly as it should work (Other's have reported it working at least).

I would need to see your config from /home/pi/.emulationstation/es_input.cfg

Jerkamie

@BuZz hmm I went into the configuration, stopped the service, and removed it then rebooted my pi. I can get the configuration file tonight.

Jerkamie

@BuZz if start and select on the xarcade output tab, can't I just edit the configuration file to quit the emulator when tab is pressed?

BuZz

you can set tab as the exit button, but you would need to disable the hotkey enable button also. You will have problems on some libretro cores with that though as I think some use tab for the mame menu.

I would follow that youtube view and set it up as described. Or this one - https://github.com/scottnath/retropie-with-dual-x-arcades

Jerkamie

I re flashed retropie, and stayed away from the drivers this time. Got it all setup like it should be as a keyboard (what i tried to do lastnight for hours worked right the first time). Sorry I was so annoying buzz! It would be nice though to get the drivers fixed so we can use our sticks as axis's instead of key presses.

BuZz

@Jerkamie i will look at he driver code at some point. Glad you gave it working

dsstrainer

I assume this is fixed as I downloaded 4.0 back at the end of August and used the drivers and I can exit just fine in libcores. I only ran into a problem with Mame4all initially where it didn't like the select and start buttons I was using but just a quick button change in the Xarcade-to-GamepadDevice.cfg file fixed that. I've switched to all libretro cores now and I use the drivers flawlessly.

dsstrainer

I use my Tankstick with RetroPie 4.0 and the xarcade2Jstick driver flawlessly since day one. I never really understood (and still don't) the issue people are having with the select + start thing... but I think that's some issue with mame4all. I use all libretro emulators and they all work perfectly. I think the only thing i changed was the hotkey from the select/insert coin button to one of the extra 2 buttons under player 1.

But now that I've been building my own units and gotten more advanced, I've found a real issue. It's not so much with Xarcade2Jstick, but more with the limitations of retroarch and hotkey buttons. Basically, I was trying to set the following
p1: 8 buttons
p2: 8 buttons
admin: 4 buttons - dedicated Exit/Reset/Save/Load

But I found that RetroArch doesn't support dedicated joystick buttons for admin (which is beyond ridiculous)
So I would have to do Hotkey/Exit/Save/Load and put the reset button in the player buttons somewhere.
But that also means 2 buttons from P1 and 2 buttons from P2. But you can't use p2 buttons as hotkeys and you can't cross the gap with a hotkey button P1 and the Save button on P2.

So my only solution for both issues now is to rip out all the xarcade2jstick stuff and leave it as default keyboard emulation. Won't be fun but hopefully I can get it all working.