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hdmi to component CRT Help..runcommand

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    mitu Global Moderator @MrCoffee
    last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 18:28

    @MrCoffee said in hdmi to component CRT Help..runcommand:

    Just taking my time with it because tho sound is a bit wonky/distorted , trying to see if there a config setting that can fix it but i don't think so..

    Are you using the audio jack on the Pi ? Try playing with the audio_pwm_mode parameter in /boot/config.txt - set it to 0 or 2.
    Or check if [this](https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Sound-Issues/#white-noise-fix] applies.

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      MrCoffee @Efriim
      last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 18:29

      @Efriim I'm just thinking is hardware, I can just use the 3.5mm jack for sound. when It switch's over to 1600x240 the sound is bad, but after a few moments it gets better,but still off.

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        MrCoffee @mitu
        last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 18:32

        @mitu no all video/sound is over HDMI, but i'm just going to use the 3.5mm jack,, the sound is okay for now. I'm still looking into it ,I do have hdmi boost on 7, but messing with that number did not do anything too..

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          MrCoffee @mitu
          last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 18:36

          @mitu I will post an update on how i got it working, I'm just not near my pi right now to read off the commands,, should I just edit my post with the new info,, or just make a comment here?..

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            mitu Global Moderator @MrCoffee
            last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 18:52

            @MrCoffee Don't worry, when you have the time to test things just add a new reply to the topic with your findings.

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              MrCoffee @MrCoffee
              last edited by mitu 6 Nov 2019, 04:14 10 Jun 2019, 22:08

              @MrCoffee

              @MrCoffee said in hdmi to component CRT Help..runcommand:

              Hi first post,, I've been looking up and down the forums and found some info, that kinda helped but right now I'm a bit stuck.

              So im using a HDMI to Component Converter/Transcoder..into my NTSC crt tv. It works off the bat from boot, and into es games look good,, but I want to use the runcommand to get a wider resolution ,, like 1280x240 but i can not get it to switch.. ..
              Im using a Rasp-pi 3, retropie 4.4. last updated about 3 weeks ago.

              from boot this is what i added to the config ..
              ...
              overscan_scale=1
              hdmi_cvt=360 240 60 1 1 0 0
              #hdmi_cvt=336 249 60 1 0 0 0
              #hdmi_cvt=1280 240 60 1 1 0 0
              #hdmi_cvt=2048 240 60 1 1 0 0

              hdmi_group=2
              hdmi_mode=87
              hdmi_force_hotplug=1
              config_hdmi_boost=7
              hdmi_ignore_edid=0xa5000080
              hdmi_pixel_encoding=1
              ...
              the #hdmi_cvt=**** work too.

              so this is my runcommand-onstart.sh
              ..
              vcgencmd hdmi_cvt=1280 240 60 1 1 0 0
              tvservice -e "DMT 87"
              fbset -depth 32 && fbset -depth 32 -xres 1280 -yres 240
              ..
              and runcommand-onend.sh
              ..
              vcgencmd hdmi_cvt=360 240 60 1 1 0 0
              tvservice -e "DMT 87"
              fbset -depth 32 && fbset -depth 32 -xres 320 -yres 240
              ..
              This is what im using...

              https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-HDMI-to-5RCA-RGB-Component-YPbPr-Video-R-L-Audio-Adapter-Converter-HD-TV/253156028580?epid=2248106783&hash=item3af14670a4:g:veMAAOSwEfBZui6~

              So to recap, 240p works from the boot config, but i can not get it to switch to a different resolution using the runcommand . I would like to set it too.

              hdmi_cvt=1280 240 60 1 1 0 0

              and it does work but only if i set it in the boot config.

              So this is an update, got it working, but its not 100% but good..

              This is what im using...

              https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-HDMI-to-5RCA-RGB-Component-YPbPr-Video-R-L-Audio-Adapter-Converter-HD-TV/253156028580?epid=2248106783&hash=item3af14670a4:g:veMAAOSwEfBZui6~

              what i added to my boot config.

              
              #what worked on my CRT yours may differ. if needed at all
              overscan_left=-16
              overscan_right=-16
              overscan_top=-32
              overscan_bottom=-32
              
              overscan_scale=1
              
              
              #hdmi_cvt=360 248 60 1 1 0 0
              #hdmi_cvt=1280 240 60 1 1 0 0
              #hdmi_cvt=1920 240 60 1 1 0 0
              hdmi_cvt=1600 240 60 1 1 0 0
              
              hdmi_group=1 
              hdmi_mode=6 
              avoid_safe_mode=1
              hdmi_force_hotplug=1
              config_hdmi_boost=7
              hdmi_ignore_edid=0xa5000080
              hdmi_pixel_encoding=2
              
              

              so I need to just start in 480i
              CEA mode 6

              and use DMT mode 87 to pick my 1600x240 for retroarch using the runcommand, the biggest problem i was having was switching back to 480i for ES, then i got it working but only 80% of the time so i had to add a sleep command to help with the timing of the switch ..

              so this is my runcommand-onstart.sh

              tvservice -e "DMT 87" ; sleep 3 ; fbset -depth 8 ; fbset -depth 32; tvservice -s
              

              and this is runcommand-onend.sh

              tvservice -e "CEA 6" ; sleep 3 ; fbset -depth 8 ; fbset -depth 32; tvservice -s
              

              ..

              sleep 3 was needed for it all to work right..

              this is a google drive video of it working...

              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QQS8rxP3dBaIJIldj6YoqBMOedK14d03/view?usp=sharing

              some pics

              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-3o18evIVNlvwd2CfktyViauQuzJybda/view?usp=sharing

              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-4vFl6dJREXw_WGzrwmjYyPqqMuwY9Pu/view?usp=sharing

              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-8lXRrckHlpDGfTS_BobunVnNasr9OSH/view?usp=sharing

              something else I'am working on

              https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eCDH_gzMVdlCq-HV_xnIqOCWCa5gWF47/view?usp=sharing

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                MrCoffee @mitu
                last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 22:10

                @mitu got home,, update with a reply,, added a google drive video of it working .. thanks for the help .

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                  mitu Global Moderator
                  last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 03:14

                  Thanks for providing the solution.
                  I've reformatted a bit your last reply so the config and commands are more readable.

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                    MrCoffee @mitu
                    last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 03:21

                    @mitu thanks I'm new here, don't know how to do that yet.

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                      mitu Global Moderator @MrCoffee
                      last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 03:25

                      @MrCoffee The posts are formatted with Markdown - https://commonmark.org/help/. I just basically added some ``` and leading spaces to create code blocks.
                      There used to be a help link shown when you typed a reply/created a new topic which pointed to that help page, but I see now that is gone. Probably removed by a forum software update.

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                        MrCoffee @mitu
                        last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 03:30

                        @mitu Bookmarked thank you .. :)

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                          edmaul69 @MrCoffee
                          last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 03:39

                          @MrCoffee if 3 backticks on the line above and the line below your code isnt possible to do on a device your on, you can leave the line above and below your code blank and indent your code lines 4 spaces.

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                            Efriim @edmaul69
                            last edited by Efriim 11 Jun 2019, 03:43

                            @edmaul69
                            Is there a way to define the syntax highlighting like that? eg. bash, c, xml

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                              MrCoffee @Efriim
                              last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 03:56

                              @Efriim lol thats looks cool ,, kinda like fortune cookies in my linux terminal.

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                                Efriim @MrCoffee
                                last edited by Efriim 6 Nov 2019, 05:01 11 Jun 2019, 03:57

                                @MrCoffee
                                mr! eat your vitamins.
                                http://ascii.co.uk/art/vitamins

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                                  mitu Global Moderator @Efriim
                                  last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 04:04

                                  @Efriim said in hdmi to component CRT Help..runcommand:

                                  Is there a way to define the syntax highlighting like that? eg. bash, c, xml

                                  Yes, you just add the name of the highlighter after the code block start
                                  ```xml.

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                                    MrCoffee @Efriim
                                    last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 04:05

                                    @Efriim lol nice. I'am saving that one.

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                                      mukelarvin @MrCoffee
                                      last edited by 18 Sept 2019, 02:51

                                      @MrCoffee

                                      Cool video. You’ve got all the solutions I’ve been looking at. Which would you say you prefer? Vga666 to component? Retrotink component? Aliexpress HDMI to component?

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                                        MrCoffee @mukelarvin
                                        last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 05:58

                                        @mukelarvin Well what i use in the video is the cheapest, but as of late I've been using a VGA to Component transcoder, theres a 15khz distro of retropie that someone made that works like a dream. they use some kinda data base for the customs timings, but I do like the RetroTink, its less of a mess when it comes to wires, but its about 90 bucks and needs some time to set up.

                                        So the HDMI to Component is kinda the poor mans way but it does work , it has its small problems , overall its a good starting point .. 12 bucks + 5 or so for the cables.

                                        for the vga666 i think i got mine on ebay for like 12 bucks and the transcoder is like 50 ish now..But its a mess of cables however with the right distro it's what works best for me, most of the arcade games run at the right rez. Retropie CRT Edition.

                                        keep an eye on this guy.He sales vga or scart to component transcoder's ..

                                        https://www.ebay.com/usr/linuxbot3000?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

                                        As far as the Retrotink goes its just the cleanest after setup, less cables and less of a mess. I've trying to get that RGB-pi working with it .

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                                          PUME04
                                          last edited by 24 Jul 2020, 16:19

                                          I am trying to get an HDMI to Component converter (no scaling, 480i compatible) working with a 27" Sony Trinitron 27FS13 (480i/240p) on a pi4. It looks something similar was done here. I can start a new thread if that makes more sense, but this seemed to be the most recent thread on this topic. Is anyone up and running on a CRT over component on a pi4 using the method here? @MrCoffee, should your method here still work? Is there a more up to date guide for accomplishing this with current hardware/build? Thanks for any feedback.

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