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    Joystick Conflicts

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    • HalvhjearneH
      Halvhjearne
      last edited by

      @Foxsec

      you arent really giving much information on anything really, but considdering you are linking to a post about a xin-mo controller, i will assume that is what you referring to.

      if you are using a xin-mo controller on ubuntu, you will need to add the usb quirks to grub or it will not work!

      like i did here:

      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbhid.quirks=0x16c0:0x05e1:0x040"
      
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      • FoxsecF
        Foxsec @Halvhjearne
        last edited by

        @Halvhjearne

        Apologies, Im quite new to this as I come from the world of Hyperspin. It's not a Xin Mo, it's just an unbranded arcade encoder.

        When you say add the line to Grub, what do you mean exactly? apologies if thats a stupid question

        Thanks for your comment back :)

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        • FoxsecF
          Foxsec
          last edited by

          @Halvhjearne

          Did some looking around and I assume I have to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add the quirks line to the 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=' inside?

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          • mituM
            mitu Global Moderator @Foxsec
            last edited by

            @Foxsec You can either modify the grub config file or follow the advice in the Docs and create a .conf file for to add the quirks there.

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            • FoxsecF
              Foxsec @mitu
              last edited by

              @mitu

              Brill, I'll give that a bash and I'll report back. Thanks a bunch for your help guys.

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              • HalvhjearneH
                Halvhjearne @mitu
                last edited by

                @mitu

                that will not work on ubuntu any more

                @Foxsec

                you need to edit /etc/default/grub

                dont forget to run update-grub after

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                • mituM
                  mitu Global Moderator @Halvhjearne
                  last edited by

                  @Halvhjearne said in Joystick Conflicts:

                  that will not work on ubuntu any more

                  Why is that ?

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                  • HalvhjearneH
                    Halvhjearne @mitu
                    last edited by

                    @mitu

                    for some reason it will not initialize usb quirks after boot time anymore.
                    perhaps for security reasons? who knows

                    i think i wrote a post a while back describing the problem and how to solve it? ... i cant remember tbh, but i tried every possible way, when i first got my xin-mo.
                    the only way it will work is if you add the quirks to grub (as i described above).

                    tbh i havent tried it on my raspberry, so idk if the way its described in the docs will work on that, but i would assume that there would be more post about it, if it didnt.

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                    • mituM
                      mitu Global Moderator @Halvhjearne
                      last edited by mitu

                      @Halvhjearne said in Joystick Conflicts:

                      for some reason it will not initialize usb quirks after boot time anymore.
                      perhaps for security reasons? who knows

                      I see, so that's your experience - but that doesn't mean will not work on ubuntu any more.
                      There were a couple of posts in the forums with similar setup (Ubuntu) that confirmed the options added to the modprobe configuration files works - after all, that's the standard way to add options to module loading - I've added the snippet in the wiki after those topics confirmed that it's working.

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                      • FoxsecF
                        Foxsec
                        last edited by

                        So I added that line to GRUB and ran the updater, and it didn't pick up the extra joystick, Did a total restart and now it doesn't pick any of the joysticks up, and neither the keyboard or mouse, so I can't do anything. :s

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                        • HalvhjearneH
                          Halvhjearne @Foxsec
                          last edited by Halvhjearne

                          @Foxsec

                          sounds like you messed something up.
                          tbh i have no idea what you did, but you can most likely fix it by booting from a usb stick and reverse whatever you did wrong.

                          did you edit the vendor and product id?
                          yours should be:

                          GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbhid.quirks=0x0810:0xe001:0x040"
                          

                          also, you are not adding a line to grub, you are editing a line that is already there and adding the usbhid quirks.
                          the rest should already be there by default.

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                          • FoxsecF
                            Foxsec @Halvhjearne
                            last edited by Foxsec

                            @Halvhjearne

                            Hi again, I ended up having to do an entire fresh ubuntu install in the end

                            My line read as :

                            GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbhid.quirks=0x0810:0xe001:0x040"
                            

                            as the joystick is listed as Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0810:e001 ?

                            I then ran update-grub from /usr/bin and it just didn't work from there? was my quirks addition not right?

                            Edit: It looks like I had an extra 0? i will try it again with what you have suggested here.

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                            • HalvhjearneH
                              Halvhjearne @Foxsec
                              last edited by Halvhjearne

                              @Foxsec

                              no, i made a mistake and the 0x is needed indeed.

                              not sure why it isnt working for you?

                              cat /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/quirks
                              

                              if it is accepted, you should see it here or it will just return null
                              for me it returns this:

                              0x16c0:0x05e1:0x040,(null),(null),(null)
                              

                              btw, it would be nice to know if the modprobe way didnt work for you.

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                              • FoxsecF
                                Foxsec
                                last edited by

                                Just redid it again, and it's come back as (null),(null),(null),(null)

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                                • HalvhjearneH
                                  Halvhjearne @Foxsec
                                  last edited by

                                  @Foxsec

                                  maybe you forgot to run update-grub?

                                  either way, i suggest we take a few steps back ...

                                  what is the actual make and model of this encoder (and is it a joystick or keyboard)?
                                  and what happends when you run jstest?

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                                  • FoxsecF
                                    Foxsec @Halvhjearne
                                    last edited by

                                    @Halvhjearne

                                    Deffo ran update-grub from /usr/sbin/, tried it again and the quirks are still null.

                                    It's a joystick and buttons connected to a little encoder, not sure of the make or model because it isn't branded. I may just end up buying another one ;(

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                                    • HalvhjearneH
                                      Halvhjearne @Foxsec
                                      last edited by

                                      @Foxsec

                                      not sure how it wouldnt work, except if you forgot to run update-grub or restart.

                                      lsusb or usb-devices commands can usually give you a clue to the make and model name.

                                      you didnt answer what happends when you run jstest?
                                      on ubuntu you can get a version with gui called jstest-gtk

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                                      • FoxsecF
                                        Foxsec @Halvhjearne
                                        last edited by

                                        @Halvhjearne

                                        Just lists it as twin usb joystick. I can copy and paste all of the info from it if that helps?

                                        Did a jstest-gtk and it shows that the joysticks work but it picks up both players as player 1.

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                                        • HalvhjearneH
                                          Halvhjearne @Foxsec
                                          last edited by Halvhjearne

                                          @Foxsec

                                          not sure what you are doing wrong, the quirks should be added, even if the joystick is not connected.
                                          it does sounds like its a clone of the xin-mo, so im guessing it should work.

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            You can check that the quirks have been added to the boot command line by running

                                            cat /proc/cmdline
                                            

                                            Can you copy the output of the command and post it here ? Alternatively, as @Halvhjearne mentioned, try using modprobe to apply the options from a command line:

                                            rmmod usbhid && modprobe usbhid quirks=0x0810:0xe001:0x040
                                            
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