retropie for the PI4 ????

KN4THX

Was it like this on the releases for the Pi 2 and 3?

I honestly wonder how many of the impatient ones are people trying to sell Retropie bundles and the devs are holding them back from unethically making a profit. :/

I think this community is as strong as it was the first day I signed up. Sure, a lot of time has past over the course of Retropie. People get older, responsibilities change, and time starts becoming a much sought after resource.

I was taught that respect is something you hold dear, whether you earned someone's respect or yourself, had respect for someone doing something honorable, you or someone doing something amazing that you couldn't do yourself. And everything in-between.

I think the devs do both of those things. They give free time for a simple cause which brings people nostalgic joy and allows them to share it with their friends and family. They also do something I cannot do myself which is amazing to me as I watch them recreate a window into my childhood.

For these reasons it amazes me that people can come on the forums and brazenly demand a project that they cannot obtain themselves. The amount of respect every dev, as well as everyone who has every posted a workaround, tip, or kind word towards the project is way more than the latest posts about the Pi 4 have been giving.

Keep up the good work guys and gals. Take all the time you need. I enjoy watching the journey as it just makes the destination worth it so much more.

Thank you all.

ClassicGMR

@sirhenrythe5th said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

@Clyde second this!!! Just be patient! The Devs are doing their best as soon as they have some spare-time and we should be thankful.
As someone else mentioned here a couple of weeks ago "they owe you NOTHING".

This

quicksilver

@KN4THX said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

Was it like this on the releases for the Pi 2 and 3?

I don't think it was (although I didn't get into retropie until right around the time the pi 2 was released). But the pi 4 is a major hardware step forward compared to previous models so I think people are extra excited to see what it can do. Nothing wrong with excitement in my book. It's just annoying to see people's excitement turn into petulant entitlement.

Darksavior

@quicksilver At the time, I noticed most complaints for the pi3b+ coming from the dull people that depend on pirate images. They were actually recommending others to not get the pi3b+ because their images weren't compatible.

quicksilver

@Darksavior those are the type of people that drag the whole project down. Luckily, for every one of them there are a ton more active and positive members of the community.

celly

@quicksilver spoken like a true prodigy.

Clyde

@quicksilver Hear, hear!

Trauma

I share my idea which helps me to wait until the Pi 4 version will be released :

I contribute to screenscraper.fr ! I translate, I note games, find informations, etc...

The more you help this website, the most accurate your library will be !

ziemski90

Hello everyone
would like to ask purse come out official software running on raspberry pi 4?

when will the official update come out fixing all bugs for raspberry PI 3?

quicksilver

@ziemski90 said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

when will the official update come out fixing all bugs for raspberry PI 3?

What bugs are you referring to?

DOPatrick

WOW. ok there is a lot of talk on this topic, im new to all this and all I was wanting to know if there was a time table or something. This will be my first build so I would like it to be a good cabinet for my family without having to buy a Desktop PC to run the games. im open to ALL suggestions how I should build this cabinet and what would work better. Thanks for all the help. BTW … why and how should I set up my buttons. seems a lot of different designs are out there

DOPatrick

BTW. to be clear here, im not demanding or expecting the new build. Im just looking for info on building me a retro gaming machine. thanks again for all the info

mitu

@DOPatrick said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

BTW. to be clear here, im not demanding or expecting the new build. Im just looking for info on building me a retro gaming machine. thanks again for all the info

You'd be better to open a new topic and add more details on what games you'd want to play, what systems you intend to include (NES/SNES/Arcade/etc.). There's lots of examples in the Projects forum with completed systems from various forum users.

matchaman

@DOPatrick said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

BTW. to be clear here, im not demanding or expecting the new build. Im just looking for info on building me a retro gaming machine. thanks again for all the info

The Raspberry Pi isn't a retro gaming machine. It's a mini hobby computer that you can also run emulators on. It's an optional bonus.

DOPatrick

@matchaman so why do people build retro gaming machines from a PI with retropi is its not used for that?

obsidianspider

@sirhenrythe5th said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

"community" 😂
I have the idea he is talking about these US-Facebook-Groups.

You mean the people selling fully loaded consoles and profiting off the work of others?

Niejeden

@DOPatrick Well... It's cheap, portable, small, can fit in handheld case or case resembling real retro-consoles... Also, for emulating 8-bit computers and most 16-bit consoles (NES/SNES/MegaDrive etc.) it's more than enough.

Clyde

@DOPatrick said in retropie for the PI4 ????:

BTW … why and how should I set up my buttons. seems a lot of different designs are out there

Ask ten people and you'll get 15+ answers – at least. It heavily depends on your personal preferences, the systems you want to emulate, and the games you want to play. Just search the forum for "button layout" and you'll find many discussions about this matter. On the rest of the web, this guide is very comprehensive, verging on making a science of it.

As @mitu suggested, you should open more threads separated by topic for your questions other than the release date of Retropie for the Pi 4.

Welcome to this forum and your new hobby. ;)

sirhenrythe5th

@obsidianspider well, at least they dont do that kind of stuff. It is not allowed to sell things there, but the main topic in these groups is "gimme a link to a premade image" or problems they have with those prebuilt images.
I also realised that it seems to be an american phenomen, all these images are from US-Users for US-Users, not a single one from Finland, Bulgaria or Spain :D
Maybe it is about the convinience which is a compnoent of the american way of life.
But as mentioned: at least they dont sell anything there.

ledow

The next version of MESA (scheduled for early December) contains a proper OpenGL ES 3.1 driver for the VideoCore on the RPi4. At that point, mesa will be pushed to distros. At that point, it'll end up in raspbian. At that point, it might be worth recompiling a handful of the compilers to actually do something that they can't already do (shader-stuff it looks like). At that point, there's about 50 different programs that may want a recompile, test, etc.

As a small example, I just got Supermariowar working fullscreen on RPi4 with SDL2, because you basically have to convert the code to work on SDL2 because now the graphics driver requires X libraries in the background (from what it looks like, anyway). It was a handful of changes and a bit of fiddling but it all needs to be done and tested for even a project as long-running as smw.

Multiply that up to an emulator that's pushing the boundaries of things, trying to use shaders to push the hard work to the GPU, all the interactions of the drivers and libraries, trying to maintain compatibility with Pi1, 2, 3 and Pi4 on the same code, on programs that may not even know anything about the Pi4 (e.g. they either can't use GL 3.1, or they don't take advantage of it anyway, or they need a fully compliant implementation to use it, or they don't know that the Pi has one, or they were only ported to the Pi back in the days of it not having a Pi4, etc.).

Now multiply that by all the emulators involved.

Development is a thankless job. And if you release even a "beta" version, everyone just starts using it and swamping you with reports polluting the forums with it as if it were official anyway, and then you're never quite sure whether that's a bug in the beta or something in your new code, or something that just doesn't work yet, or something that's caused by a bad upgrade from an unofficial third-party Pi4 repo, etc. etc. but obviously you get all the flak for EVERYTHING that doesn't work and so on.

Be patient. Wait. Watch the github repo for progress. If you don't understand the github repo, commit log, and things that are going into the fkms branch, then let me put it this way: maybe leave it to the people who do and don't try to tell them how to do their... HOBBY.

If you're so absolutely desperate that you can't do without, spend an afternoon learning how to do it yourself, see what works and doesn't, and then try and get things working yourself - maybe you'll appreciate how difficult it is to do if you're not skilled, and how much time it takes.

That's what I just did. I have nearly £1000 tied up in a RPi4 cabinet I built and rather than just tell people off for it "not being ready" (not true anyway, you can get it working in an hour), I just started coding on it. From a background of 20+ years of amateur C development, sure, but that just tells you the same as the above. Either wait for someone who knows this stuff to do it for you, or get coding yourself and realise what you're asking of some random person on the Internet with no particular impetus to do this but the love of coding and as a favour to the community.