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    Good news regarding tearing and low EmulationStation performance on Pi 4

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    • DarksaviorD
      Darksavior @Rascas
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      @Rascas said in Good news regarding tearing and low EmulationStation performance on Pi 4:

      make headers_install INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/usr

      Thanks, but that did not work.

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      • RascasR
        Rascas @Darksavior
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        @Darksavior Works fine here. With that command, headers are installed to /usr/include/ like it is normal but you can change the path to where you want to install them.

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        • DarksaviorD
          Darksavior @Rascas
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          @Rascas There might be an issue with the pad driver compiling with it, I really have no idea what I'm doing. I'll create a new thread and see if anyone can help.

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          • DarksaviorD
            Darksavior
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            Ignoring my gamepad problem, I briefly tried these drivers.
            It doesn't support 4k60? 4k30 makes ES's menu glitch out and it eventually crashes to the terminal. 1080p seems fine and smooth.
            No audio since it defaults to this new hdmi audio driver. I found some way to make the old driver the default in alsamixer, but it didn't last.

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            • SwampyS
              Swampy
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              First tests with raspberry pi 4 and kernel 5.4 and no problems so far.
              I can confirm, that emulationstation runs in full speed now.

              Till now, I didn't test all emulators. I will post again, if I find any problems.

              Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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              • saccublendaS
                saccublenda @Swampy
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                Does ES work with kms driver, that is setting dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d-pi4 in /boot/config.txt?

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                • SwampyS
                  Swampy @saccublenda
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                  @saccublenda, for me it only works with the fake kms - driver dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d. I tried it with kms, but I only get a never ending black screen.

                  Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                    Brunnis @saccublenda
                    last edited by Brunnis

                    @saccublenda Yes. It works right away and seems to fix all tearing issues in both ES and RetroArch.

                    EDIT: Actually, with latest firmware you can use vc4-kms-v3d. No need for ”-pi4” at the end.

                    EDIT: If you have boot issues, try removing any overclock.

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                    • saccublendaS
                      saccublenda @Brunnis
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                      @Brunnis I did install the last kernel and tried dtoverlay= vc4-kms-v3d, but it exits on the prompt saying:

                      Error creating SDL window!
                      Could not create GLES window surface

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                      • SwampyS
                        Swampy @Brunnis
                        last edited by

                        @Brunnis, I can confirm, that it works with no "-pi4" at the end. Only the retropie splashscreen didn't show.

                        Linux is like wigwam: no Gates, no Windows and Apache inside.

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                        • George SpiggottG
                          George Spiggott
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                          Purely as a guide to how it may run on some possible future 64bit Retropie/Dolphin build has anyone tried these new drivers on a Gentoo/dolphin (or similar) build?

                          Currently running:
                          Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                          ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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                          • saccublendaS
                            saccublenda @George Spiggott
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                            I managed to update the kernel to 5.4.29, but when I launch ES with dtoverlay= vc4-kms-v3d I get these flashing artifacts

                            IMG_3577.jpg

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                              Brunnis @saccublenda
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                              @saccublenda That looks really weird... What resolution are you running at?

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                              • saccublendaS
                                saccublenda @Brunnis
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                                @Brunnis 1920x1080

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                                • saccublendaS
                                  saccublenda @Brunnis
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                                  @Brunnis I guess it is an overscan problem. Removing the overscan settings from /boot/config.txt makes the artifacts disappear.

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                                    cellux
                                    last edited by cellux

                                    Video works fine using the kms driver, I don't have screen tearing anymore in some more problematic mame and n64 games.

                                    However, sound is gone. When I try to change settings in raspi config i get "there was an error running a4 audio"

                                    Is there some solution for this? In raspberry pi forum I've seen some audio related posts, tried to switch to the new kms hdmi audio driver (editing vc4-hdmi.conf), that results in no default audio driver found messages.

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                                      Brunnis @cellux
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                                      @cellux Sorry, can't help with that. I started with a fresh RetroPie weekly image, updated to the 5.4 kernel and enabled the full KMS driver and audio just worked.

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                                        cellux @Brunnis
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                                        @Brunnis With the old kernel running aplay -l i got card 0: ALSA [bcm2835 ALSA]

                                        Using the new kernel this disappears and only get a card called vc4hdmi.. In theory alsa / bcm2835 sound card is enabled by dtparam=audio=on in the boot config, but that just doesn't seem to happen for me. It's a shame since video works so much better with the new one.

                                        I did force hdmi with my old setup in es and also raspi-config.. wondering whether that could have saved some config that causes issues now. Will try to downgrade and reset as much as possible to default settings.

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                                        • mituM
                                          mitu Global Moderator @cellux
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                                          @cellux said in Good news regarding tearing and low EmulationStation performance on Pi 4:

                                          Using the new kernel this disappears and only get a card called vc4hdmi.. In theory alsa / bcm2835 sound card is enabled by dtparam=audio=on in the boot config, but that just doesn't seem to happen for me. It's a shame since video works so much better with the new one.

                                          You'll have to add the configurations specified in the RPI forums topic in order to get audio working. dtparam=audio=on doesn't apply to the configuration anymore.

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                                            cellux @mitu
                                            last edited by cellux

                                            @mitu

                                            Can you point me to the post that has that configuration please? I've read the pi forum and gradually tried all relevant things I've found:

                                            • removing dt param audio
                                            • the new configuration in /usr/share/alsa/cards/vc4-hdmi.conf
                                            • adding alias vc4-hdmi1 cards.vc4-hdmi
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