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    Pi4 audio settings for HDMI

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      wild snail
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      Thanks for the help, i appreaciate.

      I went to my uncles house with this thing, connected it, played with settings, and all the sudden there was sound.
      I was very happy, and went back to my house.
      Then there was no sound back home.

      Maybe my TV is to old ?, 10 years old, while my uncle has a new tv.
      Can HDMI be not backward compatible ?

      I go try buy another cable see if that works,
      if that is true i wont ever buy anything original with a raspberry logo on it.

      Sorry for the stressing, it is my TV.
      Anyone know anything about this HDMI backward compatibility let me know.

      thanks

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      • ClydeC
        Clyde @wild snail
        last edited by

        @wild-snail said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

        I go try buy another cable see if that works,
        if that is true i wont ever buy anything original with a raspberry logo on it.

        Because of the cable? Nowadays, most "vendors" of simple parts like cables buy from the same few factories in asia who are making them in the first place, and put their own label on them. Thus, the quality the customer gets comes down to some QA and a big heap of randomness.

        Shunning a certain vendor just because of one bad cable seems a little exaggeration to me, and may cut you off from an otherwise excellent hardware source, which in my experience the Raspberry Pi Foundation really is – just search for power-related Pi problems with non-original power supplies.

        Just my two cents to maybe save you from a severely wrong decision. 🧐

        That said, I'm looking forward to any update about the matter. I wish you success.

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          wild snail
          last edited by

          I tryd another cable and it dit not work either.

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            wild snail
            last edited by

            I just wait for a update image on the site that solves this, i am reading this :
            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/26628/audio-issues-after-latest-raspbian-updates/17

            Good luck

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @wild snail
              last edited by

              @wild-snail I don't understand what update you're waiting. If you read the post, it outlines what configurations need to be done - after Raspian's updates - so that audio works in EmulationStation. If you're using the 4.6 image, but you didn't update your system, then you will not be affected by those updates.

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                wild snail
                last edited by

                Ok thanks
                maybe i just need a new tv.

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                • ClydeC
                  Clyde
                  last edited by

                  Does your TV or your sound system have other audio inputs? Then maybe the audio jack of the Pi could be an option? (This should be obvious, but sometimes we miss the forest for the trees.)

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                    wild snail
                    last edited by wild snail

                    Yes i have my pc-speakers at the moment, only it is a mess with all the wires.
                    I really think it is some PCM problem, with samplerate or channels.

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                    • GreenGriffonG
                      GreenGriffon @mitu
                      last edited by

                      @mitu You don't understand why people might be waiting on an update to fix a problem that breaks the sound in ES on a brand new installation of the official RetroPie image?

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator @GreenGriffon
                        last edited by

                        @GreenGriffon Yes, care to explain me ?

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                        • UnknownU
                          Unknown @mitu
                          last edited by

                          @mitu said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

                          @wild-snail I don't understand what update you're waiting. If you read the post, it outlines what configurations need to be done - after Raspian's updates - so that audio works in EmulationStation. If you're using the 4.6 image, but you didn't update your system, then you will not be affected by those updates.

                          I agree with mitu. There is no need to update the pi for this, since you only need to change your audio settings.

                          You can't beat the classics(unless you copy them).

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                            wild snail
                            last edited by

                            Well then tell me please how do i change my audio settings ?

                            The Pi3B works fine on my TV, the Pi4B not, it does work at other TVs.

                            So what is changed in the Pi4 audio compared to the Pi3 ?
                            Is the samplerate increased ?, maybe there is channels added for surround ?
                            All these things can give problems on my 10 year old TV.

                            So dont say i need to change my setting if you dont know how.

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                            • mituM
                              mitu Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @wild-snail said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

                              Is the samplerate increased ?, maybe there is channels added for surround ?

                              No, those things haven't changed.

                              All these things can give problems on my 10 year old TV.
                              So dont say i need to change my setting if you dont know how.

                              It's your choice - have you read the troubleshooting topic ?

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                              • ClydeC
                                Clyde @wild snail
                                last edited by

                                @wild-snail said in Pi4 audio settings for HDMI:

                                Yes i have my pc-speakers at the moment, only it is a mess with all the wires.

                                Well, you could use an HDMI audio extractor as near as possible to your TV and your speakers, so that most of the distance it's only one HDMI cable between the Pi and the extractor. I'm using such a device to connect me and my friend's classic mini consoles to my video projector and my 5.1 surround sound system, since the consoles only have HDMI audio output. These extractors should be available for little money even in domestic shops.

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                                  wild snail
                                  last edited by

                                  Funny, my HDMI-cable is 0,5 meter.

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                                  • ClydeC
                                    Clyde @wild snail
                                    last edited by

                                    @wild-snail It was just an idea to reduce the mess of wires. 😉

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                                    • GreenGriffonG
                                      GreenGriffon @mitu
                                      last edited by

                                      @mitu Okay. If someone burns a brand new out-of-the-box RetroPie image and updates it - as I imagine most people would do - they will find that their sound no longer works in ES.
                                      Unless that's intended behavior to break the audio, it doesn't seem unreasonable for people to expect this problem will get fixed. It's a pretty critical one.
                                      Hope that's a clear enough explanation.

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                                      • mituM
                                        mitu Global Moderator
                                        last edited by mitu

                                        @mitu Okay. If someone burns a brand new out-of-the-box RetroPie image and updates it - as I imagine most people would do - they will find that their sound no longer works in ES.

                                        If you burn a 4.6 image, then you'll have the same sound configuration (in Raspbian and EmulationStation) as any of the previously released images. The 4.6 image does not have the updated kernel/firmware that changed the sound configuration.

                                        The issue appears when you update your OS and kernel/firmware packages on the 4.6 image and the sound configuration is changed because of it. We don't control how Raspbian/The Raspberry Pi Trading release updates.

                                        GIven that there is no single configuration that will work out-of-the-box for both updated and non-updated system, the best we can, right now, is to add the necessary configuration options to EmulationStation and make the users that updated aware of the change - hence the topic opened and pinned at the top of the Help category.
                                        We currently support RetroPie on both Raspbian Stretch (which is not affected by the change), this means any system installed using an image prior to 4.6, and Raspbian Buster, this means any system using the 4.6 image.

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                                        • AshpoolA
                                          Ashpool
                                          last edited by Ashpool

                                          Anyone mentioned setting hdmi_drive=2 within /boot/config.txt so far?

                                          GreenGriffon: see the lower comment in my postscriptum (for me the experience with the 4 was a vice versa here) ->

                                          P.S.: (I've also having this "one" older tv where, with each fresh install (since ???Retropie 4.x???) and regardless of Pi 3B, Pi3B+ I am always guessing anew how to enable the sound...
                                          1st steps always where: fresh image/setting hdmi audio via setup and forcing hdmi mode within config.txt, updating the whole system and then after a few hours of trial and error I got sound working on this tv (on the other ones it always was an OOBE experience/or just changed setting within the start menu) and always forgot to write the steps taken down).
                                          Now with my freshly bought Pi4B I was surprised that it simply had sound after updating the kernel packages of the 4.6 Image I haven't had to "quest it down" again (that was just within the last hour before posting here).

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                                            wild snail
                                            last edited by wild snail

                                            How do i update those packages without wifi ?
                                            I also have trouble installing dreamcast without wifi.

                                            Maybe i should try wifi and all my troubles are gone ?

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