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    Poor C64 Vice performance on Epyx "Impossible Mission"

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    • T_ScheenT
      T_Scheen
      last edited by

      Hi there, this is my very first post, so hopefully not making mistakes.
      I have very recently bought a pre-built Zarcade Z8. Main purpose is to play my favourite C64 game of 35 years ago, Epyx Impossible Mission.
      However, the screen performance is quite poor.
      Scrolling is lagging and my character is moving slow. Barely playable.
      System:
      Raspberry Pi 3B+
      Retropie 4.6.4
      ES v 2.9.3 RP
      Vice 3.4 Rev 38100

      As there are so many potential settings to tweak in Vice, I'm getting desperate.

      Can anybody help with a golden tip, preferably someone with the same Zarcade/Vice setup?

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      • T_ScheenT
        T_Scheen
        last edited by

        I think I found it:
        Set "Refresh Rate" from "Automatic" to "1/1" and leave CPU speed at 100%.

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        • stooS
          stoo
          last edited by stoo

          If your system can run VICE at full speed then 1/1 is the same as Automatic.

          Pi3B+ can run VICE fullspeed, but not with any enhancements. You can't use Double size, Double scan or any Render filters (CRT Emulation or Scale2x) and maintain full speed.

          Why? Well, it appears that FastSID support was removed at some point. ReSID is very heavy on the CPU, which is probably why the options I listed above are no longer viable on the Pi3, even overclocked.

          The Pi4 has enough power to run fullspeed with any/all enhancements enabled.

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          • BuZzB
            BuZz administrators @stoo
            last edited by

            @stoo I will look into possibly adding an older version with the less accurate SID emulation.

            To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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            • stooS
              stoo @BuZz
              last edited by

              @BuZz Cool, thanks. It doesn't actually bother me - I prefer the accuracy of ReSID - but it would probably be nice for users like OP to have the option.

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              • BuZzB
                BuZz administrators
                last edited by

                Looks like it's a configure option that's now disabled by default. Testing with it enabled and if all ok will rebuild binaries and update module source.

                To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                • BuZzB
                  BuZz administrators
                  last edited by

                  Source is updated. If you update RetroPie-Setup script and then install vice from source the fastsid backend should be available again.

                  To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                  • BuZzB
                    BuZz administrators
                    last edited by

                    Binaries are now also updated.

                    To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    • stooS
                      stoo @BuZz
                      last edited by

                      @BuZz Awesome, cheers.

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                      • T_ScheenT
                        T_Scheen @BuZz
                        last edited by

                        @BuZz said in Poor C64 Vice performance on Epyx "Impossible Mission":

                        Source is updated. If you update RetroPie-Setup script and then install vice from source the fastsid backend should be available again.

                        Cheers mate!
                        Took me a while to figure out how to enable wifi first on my Zarcade. And I had to buy a keyboard first of course. Today I was able to update the Vice package. Found the FastSid setting (6581).
                        The proof of the pudding in my favourite game: When you travel up or down with the elevator for a long time, there is no more stuttering in the elevator sound.
                        Thx !!

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