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      Folly
      last edited by Folly

      @retrofan

      The command :

      aplay -L
      

      It seems to give quite some useful information.
      With that you can see what it uses by default.

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        retrofan @Folly
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        @folly

        That command gives me the same output as in the picture you posted before.
        Raspbian Update / Upgrade didn't help at all, now it's even worse the emulator doesn't work at all, even after reinstallation.
        It's time to leave everything for another day. ;)

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          Folly @retrofan
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          @retrofan said in BBC Micro / Acorn Electron Emu:

          @folly

          That command gives me the same output as in the picture you posted before.

          It should give you something different.
          -l, --list-devices list all soundcards and digital audio devices
          -L, --list-pcms list device names

          I was curious what your default is, mine says :

          pi@raspberrypi:~ $ aplay -L
          default
              Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
          .
          .
          

          Raspbian Update / Upgrade didn't help at all, now it's even worse the emulator doesn't work at all, even after reinstallation.
          It's time to leave everything for another day. ;)

          We will have a try, later again.
          Hopefully we get it working.

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            Folly @retrofan
            last edited by Folly

            @retrofan said in BBC Micro / Acorn Electron Emu:

            My retropie image is 8 weeks old, latest version for sure.
            I will try to update retropie and use tips from link that Folly posted...

            Well I had a look in what's the latest image.
            Both rpi-imager and the downloads section of RetroPie give :

            • 4.7.1 from november 2020

            I can't find any image of 8 weeks old.

            I think that is why you are experiencing audio issues as in that time debian converted from alsa to pulseaudio.

            What's the version number of your RetroPie_Setup ?

            We are already on 4.7.15

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              Lister of Smeg @Folly
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              @folly
              I decided to wipe my sd card and start again, card imaged and updated via retropie-setup
              installed b-em-allegro4 from script - no audio
              Pulse folder not present in '/home/pi/.config/'
              Installed desktop & rebooted
              Pulse folder now present but 'XXXXXXXXXXXX-default-sink' had no entries - added 'alsa_output.platform-bcm2835_audio.digital-stereo' - rebooted
              went to RetroPie-Setup Configuration / tools / audiosettings / mixer - changed from Master to HDMI
              still no audio
              loaded desktop and ran alsamixer from command - changed from Master to HDMI
              rebooted and now the audio works???
              At a guess b-em relies on the same audio settings as the desktop (runs with xinit) and it is a case of getting these settings in sync with the rest of retropie?

              I did try to install elkulator via script however from a default installation runcommand gives this output

              Parameters: 
              Executing: xinit /dev/shm/retropie_xinitrc -- vt1 -keeptty
              
              
              X.Org X Server 1.20.4
              X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
              Build Operating System: Linux 5.10.17-v8+ aarch64 Raspbian
              Current Operating System: Linux retropie 5.10.17-v7+ #1421 SMP Thu May 27 13:59:01 BST 2021 armv7l
              Kernel command line: coherent_pool=1M 8250.nr_uarts=0 snd_bcm2835.enable_compat_alsa=0 snd_bcm2835.enable_hdmi=1 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1824 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=984 bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 vc_mem.mem_base=0x3ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x40000000  console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=bb27b9fd-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait loglevel=3 consoleblank=0 plymouth.enable=0
              Build Date: 19 April 2021  03:23:36PM
              xorg-server 2:1.20.4-1+rpt3+deb10u3 (https://www.debian.org/support) 
              Current version of pixman: 0.36.0
              	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
              	to make sure that you have the latest version.
              Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
              	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
              	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
              (==) Log file: "/home/pi/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jul 12 10:45:34 2021
              (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
              xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
              xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
              Set mode 1920x1080@60Hz on default
              
              Executing (via xinit): /opt/retropie/emulators/elkulator/elkulator-multiload.sh /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/electron/Arcadians_E.uef
              
              sed: can't read /opt/retropie/configs/electron/elk.cfg: No such file or directory
              Shutting down Allegro due to signal #11
              xinit: connection to X server lost
              
              waiting for X server to shut down wm_set_cursor_visibility: hidden using XCreatePixmapCursor
              (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
              
              
              
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                Folly @Lister of Smeg
                last edited by Folly

                @lister-of-smeg

                About the sound, that is something good you found !!!

                For the elkulator part.
                I think this comes from the fact that there isn't yet an elk.cfg created in the first run.
                That is why sed is giving an error.

                Try a second time, is the error still there ?

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                  Lister of Smeg @Folly
                  last edited by

                  @folly
                  just tried again - still getting
                  'sed: can't read /opt/retropie/configs/electron/elk.cfg: No such file or directory
                  Shutting down Allegro due to signal #11
                  xinit: connection to X server lost'

                  (if I manually copy and rename elk.cfg.bak to the config folder everything works)

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                    Folly @Lister of Smeg
                    last edited by

                    @lister-of-smeg

                    Yes indeed, it seems to be an issue.

                    I am now on a OS on a pi4 and where I did't install elkulator.
                    I had the same issue as you.

                    I pasted the elk.cfg into /opt/retropie/configs/electron.
                    Then it worked.

                    I will have a look when I can.

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                      Folly @Lister of Smeg
                      last edited by Folly

                      @lister-of-smeg

                      After the install of elkulator I could see in the log that the elk.cfg wasn't copied.
                      With an other script I had the same issue which I fixed with removing the quotes around the paths.
                      I did the same here as we don't have to use it as we have no files and directories with "spaces".

                      My test worked.
                      Can you test it too for me ?

                      My commit :
                      https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/23321be168ba9cab4cf87ab4a6e3f691fb8b31a7

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                        Lister of Smeg @Folly
                        last edited by

                        @folly
                        no problem
                        uninstalled previous version & made sure there were no remnants (just the cfg that was manually copied - deleted)
                        reinstalled with new script & tested - games load :)
                        elk.cfg present in /opt/retropie/configs/electron

                        Top Job! :D

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                          Folly @Lister of Smeg
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                          @lister-of-smeg

                          Thanks for testing !

                          Really odd that only "double quotes" give these problems.
                          No idea why.

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                            Folly @retrofan
                            last edited by

                            @retrofan

                            You should try this part from @Lister-of-Smeg :
                            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29402/bbc-micro-acorn-electron-emu/152

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                              retrofan @Folly
                              last edited by

                              @folly

                              I know the emulator is working properly on the raspbian desktop environment, I checked that yesterday.
                              I use latest Retropie version you mention, which I installed eight weeks ago for the b-em Pico version.
                              Tested this b-em allegro4 version on it (no updates / upgrade at all), the emulator worked, but no sound.
                              I allready have HDMI set in alsamixer, but it doesnt help in retropie.
                              @Lister-of-Smeg tested with fresh image and and confirmed in his message everything that happened to me yesterday.
                              Today I don't have much time for testing and honestly I don't know what to do next.
                              The Pico version under the same retropie image has sound.

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                                Folly @retrofan
                                last edited by Folly

                                @retrofan

                                Fair enough.

                                Perhaps @Lister-of-Smeg can walk you through the solution.
                                Well we keep this problem in mind, perhaps we can find a nice automated solution.

                                You could also make an image with desktop and install retropie on top of that so you can use both worlds.
                                If you want this and you have time we can do this in an other thread.

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                                  Lister of Smeg @retrofan
                                  last edited by

                                  @retrofan
                                  no worries
                                  when I was testing this morning I had assumed that you may not have the pixel desktop installed (retropie setup / configuration / tools / raspbian tools / Install pixel desktop) as the pulse audio folder only appeared after I had done this
                                  Anyhoo
                                  I suspect the issue is only temporary until retropie is updated, as it seems to be a bit of a mix of alsa/pulse at the moment
                                  Perhaps it's not worth jumping through hoops today for something that may be fixed tomorrow? - I just do it for fun
                                  but if you want to try again sometime i'm happy to help :D

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                                    retrofan
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                                    No pressure, really.
                                    Actually, this issue could be easily solved, since @Lister-of-Smeg has a retropie image with fully working b-em allegro4 version and could share it with rest of us for testing, without roms and without violating any rules.
                                    However, this is not possible, because forum forbids private messages, which I have never experienced in more than 20 years on Internet.
                                    Fortunately, this is not a big problem, at the end of the day I will install this emulator on the desktop raspbian, put it in the startup sequence and that is it.

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                                      Lister of Smeg @retrofan
                                      last edited by Lister of Smeg

                                      @retrofan
                                      longshot
                                      are you known as RetroFanZ or retrofan2018 on another site which must remain nameless?

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                                        retrofan @Lister of Smeg
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                                        @lister-of-smeg

                                        No, that's not me, but I know there are other people under the same or similar nick names, on Retro forums.
                                        btw, I use this nick in the Spanish forum related to ZX-UNO FPGA device.
                                        But, tell me you're just kidding, when you say it's forbidden to mention some other forum name, here ?

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                                          Lister of Smeg @retrofan
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                                          @retrofan
                                          it's a rom torrent site so i'm sure it's against the rules to mention it here
                                          shame really - a lot of stuff we use was developed/tested there
                                          I remember eXo asking if members could test his initial scripts for eXoDos many years ago (nice guy)

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                                            KrinaSam
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                                            Hello everyone.
                                            I have installed the bbc micro and electron emulator, but when I try to start it, I get a message on my TV that the image format is not supported. All other emulators work fine. What is going on? Allegro-4 starts in a small window when trying to set to fullscreen - video format not supported. (TV philips pus7101)

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