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    • sergioadS
      sergioad
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      I am playing SF Alpha 2 gold by using an overclocked pi 4 at 2050 and it works quite nicely despite some sporadic slowdowns without frameskip at 32 threads, I am loving it and I am thinking on deleting the vanilla PS1 version I have do you know about any other good Saturn 2D games I could play in my pi?

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        barbudreadmon @sergioad
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        @sergioad said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

        I am playing SF Alpha 2 gold by using an overclocked pi 4 at 2050 and it works quite nicely despite some sporadic slowdowns without frameskip at 32 threads, I am loving it and I am thinking on deleting the vanilla PS1 version I have do you know about any other good Saturn 2D games I could play in my pi?

        You seem to be using original yabause, are you sure 16 threads isn't a bit better ? I think the core has a tendency to counter-perform when you set its thread value too high. Otherwise, yes, the original yabause core might be sometimes a solid choice for non-hires non-3d saturn games on low-end devices.

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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        • sergioadS
          sergioad @barbudreadmon
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          @barbudreadmon hmmm... You are right, I might revisit Saturn soon as I deleted my Saturn game, BTW I was wondering... if the enshiro branch works better both standalone and in libretro core form why the core is not yet present in the setup script? Is there any reason I am unaware?

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            barbudreadmon @sergioad
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            @sergioad said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

            Is there any reason I am unaware?

            I don't know why the standalone version isn't in the setup script, as for the libretro version, as i said many times, you should never use it, it's crap, and it's abandoned.

            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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            • dankcushionsD
              dankcushions Global Moderator @barbudreadmon
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              last time i checked the standalone yabasanshiro no-gui install method was some custom built thing for retroarena that we could probably leverage, but it's ugly. to be honest the whole source code for yabasanshiro seems like a a bit of a mess and i lost interest :P if anyone else wants to try and put together an install script for it, go for it!

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                phialek @dankcushions
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                @dankcushions

                Yabasanshiro on retropie with my p4 runs fantastic. Every saturn game I've tried runed in full speed even with x2 resolution.

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                • sergioadS
                  sergioad @phialek
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                  @phialek the major problem with the standalone Yabause is that it is a Qt X11 app unlike others that are SDL, I prefer the libretro cores because those are almost plug and play, but for Dreamcast and DS I use the standalone emulators

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                  • sergioadS
                    sergioad
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                    What 2D games have you tried in the pi 4 running well? (I ask to everyone)

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                      dankcushions Global Moderator @phialek
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                      @phialek said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                      @dankcushions

                      Yabasanshiro on retropie with my p4 runs fantastic. Every saturn game I've tried runed in full speed even with x2 resolution.

                      lr-yabasanshiro? i am not aware of a standalone yabasanshiro install script for retropie. please link me if you have one!

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                        retropieuser555 @dankcushions
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                        @dankcushions if I can echo this if there is some good setup instructions for the standalone I'd like to give it a shot. I've had a skim through this thread a few times and I kinda get lost in the discussion over what is and isn't working

                        @sergioad I can't remember which lr core I was using (probably the one people are suggesting don't use ha!) But for me, most the 2d Saturn games I tried worked, Cotton, Bomberman etc. It's the 3d games that seemed more difficult to play

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                        • sergioadS
                          sergioad @retropieuser555
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                          @retropieuser555 I have tried Mega man 8 and Street fighter alpha 2 gold

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                            barbudreadmon @sergioad
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                            @sergioad said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                            the major problem with the standalone Yabause is that it is a Qt X11 app unlike others that are SDL

                            That's indeed the case for Yabause afaik, but yabasanshiro standalone has an UI running without Qt, the build instructions are hidden somewhere in this very long topic.

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              phialek @dankcushions
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                              @dankcushions

                              https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/24568/is-yabasanshiro-emulator-coming-on-retropie

                              I read herr and Downloaded th script and the shader hack and placed in the retropie setup/supplementary folder. Theb i could install it via retropie setup.

                              Every game which wasnt playable with yabause is now fullyplayable. Even daytona usa (2x resolution) and sega rally (1x)

                              I really hope yabasanshiro will be a real part of retropie because its the only core which is playable.

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                                dankcushions Global Moderator @phialek
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                                @phialek right, then that's the lr-yabasanshiro core, not standalone yabasanshiro. we're talking about standalone. lr-yabasanshiro may not get included until the shader hack has an upstream fix, but you can test it already, as you've done.

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                                  phialek @dankcushions
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                                  Ah ok i understand.

                                  To be honest if there was at least a clear instruction how to install it, that would help a lot of people. I think it took me 3 hours to find the github and instructions to get it running. Until now that's the only way saturn games are playable and most people think the pi is too weak for saturn, which its not.

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                                    barbudreadmon @phialek
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                                    @phialek said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                    Every game which wasnt playable with yabause is now fullyplayable. Even daytona usa (2x resolution) and sega rally (1x)

                                    Well, last time i saw a video of sega rally on pi4 with the libretro core version of yabasanshiro, it was frameskipping like crazy, considering how the frameskip was heavily noticeable (frameskip is when the emulator will skip the rendering of a frame to try to keep up with the original speed of the emulated game), it was probably way below 30 fps, that was indeed playable but not something i would call enjoyable. Usage of the standalone version will guarantee a way better performance.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                      mechafatnick @barbudreadmon
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                                      @barbudreadmon If i remember there are one or two games that actually seem to play better with the LR version, but mostlt you desperately need stand alone.

                                      Has anyone managed to remap the keys on the standalone? I have a short cut to kill it on my phone but it isn't an ideal solution

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                                        barbudreadmon @mechafatnick
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                                        @mechafatnick said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                        If i remember there are one or two games that actually seem to play better with the LR version

                                        Codebase was very hacky and totally unfriendly for a libretroization, and because of that a number of things had to be disabled in the libretro port, most notably the way standalone handles video rendering on a sub-thread to improve performance. There might be edge cases where those changes unexpectedly improved the performance instead, but overall between that and the overhead induced by libretro on gl-rendered cores, standalone will be way faster.

                                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                        • sergioadS
                                          sergioad @barbudreadmon
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                                          @barbudreadmon what is the best overclock for Saturn?

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                                          • Genos98G
                                            Genos98
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                                            Any idiot proof guide to installing the standalone? I'm using lr-yabashanshiro, it's decent but some games aren't or barely working.

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