How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?

top-specci · 16 Dec 2019, 17:59

Hi,
I search here and in google, but how can I shutdown RetroPie when EmulationStation is running in Kids mode?

In the (i.e.) menupoint "Retropie Setup" pressing "select", I find the option to edit "Edit the games metadata" and there the Hidden -button and Kidsgame -button.
But where can I select (enable) the shutdown option for Kids when the UI is running in mode "Kid" ?

Thanks!

mitu · 16 Dec 2019, 18:21

@top-specci Emulationstation global menu is activated with the Start button, not with Select.

top-specci · 17 Dec 2019, 13:56

Thanks, I will try.
but I think I also have test this key to reach a "usefull" menu to activate the shutdown function for kids-modes.

For games I can edit the gamelist.xml in the Emulatorstations-folder (/opt/retropie/configs/all/emulatorstation) and add this line to enable a game also in Kid-mode:

<kidgame>true</kidgame>

Is thera also a config file to enable shutdown for kid-mode on this way (I'm friend from config file, shell and vi, ...)

mitu · 17 Dec 2019, 14:13

@top-specci The Emulationstation menu is not configurable via config file, so the answer would be no.

top-specci · 17 Dec 2019, 16:55

@mitu said in How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?:

@top-specci The Emulationstation menu is not configurable via config file, so the answer would be no.

Sorry again,
with "Start" you mean the Start / P1 button?
Than the "Main menu" opens ("Emulationstation V284") with entries: "Scraper | Sound settings | UI settings | ..."
Where should this be, options to enable shutdown in kid-mode?

mitu · 17 Dec 2019, 17:10

@top-specci said in How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?:

Than the "Main menu" opens ("Emulationstation V284") with entries: "Scraper | Sound settings | UI settings | ..."

Yes, that's what I meant - the Start button (P1 start) will open the main Emulationstation menu.

Where should this be, options to enable shutdown in kid-mode?

There is none - the Kid mode doesn't have a the main menu enabled, only the Kiosk UI mode has it enabled - with reduced functionality.

top-specci · 17 Dec 2019, 21:42

@mitu said in How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?:

Where should this be, options to enable shutdown in kid-mode?

There is none - the Kid mode doesn't have a the main menu enabled, only the Kiosk UI mode has it enabled - with reduced functionality.

OK, thanks, than this was a misunderstanding - I setup the Kiosk-Mode now.

(Mabye a (little hidden) option to shutdown also in Kids-Mode is usefull - bether than switch of the Raspi always there ...)

purpledragon478 · 14 Dec 2021, 18:25

I know this is an old question but I thought I'd reply anyway for anyone else who's having trouble with this. By default the start menu is disabled for the 'Kid' UI mode, but you can enable it. To do this, complete the following steps:

First make sure you're in the 'Full' UI mode
Then go into the RetroPie menu
Click 'Configuration Editor'
Click 'Advanced Configuration'
Click 'Manually edit global configs'
Make sure that you have a keyboard connected, and then click 'all/emulationstation/es_settings.cfg'
Scroll down to the line that reads '<bool name="DisableKidStartMenu" value="true" />', and then change the value of 'true' to 'false' instead
Once you've done this, click 'OK' at the bottom (use the tab key to highlight this option)
Exit the 'Configuration Editor'
Next make sure to turn the Raspberry Pi off, and then back on again, before changing the UI mode to 'Kid' (if you change the UI mode to 'Kid' now, before turning the Raspberry Pi off and on again, then not only will it not work, but it will actually undo this setting change you just made in the es_settings.cfg file. So you'd have to go through all these steps again)
Then change the UI mode to 'Kid', it should work then

The start menu for the 'Kid' UI mode will be the same as the start menu for the 'Kiosk' UI mode, in that it will be missing most of the options. The only options left will be the system volume, and also the reset and shut down options. Still though, if all you wanted the start menu for was to turn off the Raspberry Pi, then that will be enough.

mitu · 14 Dec 2021, 18:53

@purpledragon478 said in How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?:

By default the start menu is disabled for the 'Kid' UI mode, but you can enable it. To do this, complete the following steps:
...

EmulationStation has now an option in the UI Settings menu to control whether to show the menu or not in the Kid mode, so there's no need to edit any configuration file. It's been added more than 1 year ago.

purpledragon478 · 15 Dec 2021, 23:38

@mitu said in How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?:

@purpledragon478 said in How shutdown Retropie in Kid-Mode ? (or is Kiosk mode needed for this) ?:

By default the start menu is disabled for the 'Kid' UI mode, but you can enable it. To do this, complete the following steps:
...

EmulationStation has now an option in the UI Settings menu to control whether to show the menu or not in the Kid mode, so there's no need to edit any configuration file. It's been added more than 1 year ago.

Oh sorry, I didn't realise that. I had experienced this problem with the start menu myself just recently, and tried looking for a solution online but to no avail (that's when I found this unanswered question). I hadn't even tried looking through the start menu for a solution tbh because I assumed that if I couldn't find a solution online, then it must just be impossible to access the start menu in the 'Kid' UI mode. So when I stumbled across this solution while just browsing through the RetroPie menu for any general useful settings, I was really excited, and thought I'd come back and answer this question in order to help anyone else who was also having difficulty with it.

I had planned to look through the start menu settings next to see if I could find anything useful there too, so I guess I should've held off on posting this answer until I had done that, since I would've discovered this more efficient solution then. Oh well, at least both these methods are available here online now for anyone who is still having difficulty with this (and who, like myself, hadn't bothered looking through the start menu for a solution). Plus I'm just glad to learn that there is this more user-friendly method of enabling the start menu in the 'Kid' UI mode.

So for anyone reading this who still wants to know how to do enable the start menu in 'Kid' mode, complete the following steps instead:

First make sure you're in the regular 'Full' UI mode
Press the start button to bring up the start menu
Click 'UI Settings'
Scroll down to the option 'Disable Start Menu in Kid Mode' and set it to 'Off'
Exit the start menu

Then you can enable the 'Kid' UI Mode and the start menu will be available. You don't have to first turn off the Raspberry Pi and then turn it back on again, like with the first method I posted.