VICE - Sound Config (Retropie 4.1)
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@RumblinBuffalo RetroPie don't "mess" with the emulators. If something has changed in VICE that would be down to the VICE devs. However, bear in mind that RetroPie is really just a suite of programs, scripts and configs brought together and so many things could have been changed by so many people at so many points ... I don't know how they keep up. They do this as a hobby, not a full time job.
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@RumblinBuffalo did you update or do a fresh install? If fresh you can try adjusting the volume in the emulationstation menu from 77% to 100% and see if that helps any. In vice you could try to change the sound output to 44100 or something else and see if that helps.
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Thanks for the replies.
@columboscoat I agree - I didn't mean to imply it came from Retropie, but I know the 4.1 image came with a new version of VICE. I had read that there is a specific VICE config file that comes with the Retropie image to optimize it for the RPi, so I was thinking maybe therein lies a setting changed that may/may not effect the sound performance. My example is very specific so it does SEEM like it must be a result of the actual emulation by the newer VICE version (when I was using the Retropie 3.8 install - and that version of VICE - it worked fine).
@edmaul69
I did a fresh 4.1 Retropie image, and then installed VICE from source. I noticed the differences then, and actually removed VICE (and deleted the VICE config file) and re-installed it using binary. Results were the same. I have tinkered with every sound setting I could find but haven't had positive results yet, but I'll try a little more experimentation.Greatly appreciate the suggestions.
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@RumblinBuffalo because of the issues newer vice had with saving settings i actually just stuck my old 3.8.1 vice + config back on. I havent had any issues with it so i dont see a need to update it until i am certain the bugs are out.
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That is what I am thinking of doing as well since it worked well for me. So to clarify, are you using Retropie 4.1 - but with the 3.8.1 version of vice? If so - how would I go about installing the older version?
Pardon the rookie question - I haven't mastered this part yet. I'm assuming it requires downloading and copying the correct version of VICE onto the RPi someplace and executing a command line to install?
Or I could start over with a 3.8.1 image and only update the stuff I need to (not vice of course).
Thanks again for the help!
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@RumblinBuffalo you could go about which ever way works best. I always backup my /opt/retropie/ folder along with /home/pi/retropie/roms/ (this one i delete the old version) and the /boot/cmdline.txt and /boot/config.txt everytime i update and keep them so i just copied the emulater and config file overwriting the new one.
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Thanks for the info. So to clarify, do you simply copy the /opt/retropie/emulators/vice/ folder from the older image (or from your backup in this case) to the active SD card (just overwrite the folder?)
Then do the same with the sdl-vicerc (config) file?
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Please can you tell me what audio settings you changed on the new vice ?
There are various things that can affect speech volume. From the sid emulation (Fast vs accurate resid emulation), and sid model (6581 vs 8580).
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I've just tested this. The speech is quieter with the default Fast SID emulation. If you have a RPI3 you should have enough power for the more accurate floating point resid emulation. You can switch this via Settings -> Machine Settings -> Model settings.
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Thank you so much - that did the trick!
Weird part for me is that I tested the Retropie 3.8.1 image on a spare SD card and could not get it to work as I said it did before. I don't remember ever touching the audio settings on my first go-round so maybe it was quieter then and I simply hadn't noticed.
Regardless - that helps me huge (I have a soft spot for Space Taxi, and the C64 in general).
Thanks again everyone for the responses.
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