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Will Not Boot after unplugging Retropie 3.7

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    andrew_tn
    last edited by 19 May 2016, 15:51

    I'm using a Rpi3 and running Rentropie 3.7 installed from img from retropie-v3.7-rpi2_rpi3.img.gz. My power supply is a canakit 2.5 5v. When i installed it runs fine and i can load it with my roms and play just fine. After I shut it down via the prompts and unplug it, It will not boot backup after plugging it back in. Just a blank screen. I am using 2 different class 10 sd cards, trying to rule that out as the issue. Any ideas on preventing the corruption?

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      iconrumble @andrew_tn
      last edited by 19 May 2016, 16:36

      @andrew_tn Make sure you wait long enough for the system to shutdown completely... depending on the number of ROMs you have, it may take 30 seconds or more... Try and wait until the RPi leds stop blinking and your TV shows "no hdmi input" warning or similar

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        andrew_tn @iconrumble
        last edited by 20 May 2016, 02:23

        @iconrumble
        Tried that, even without loading my roms... waited a whole minute just to be sure. The red and green lights stayed on. Still corrupted the card.

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          andrew_tn @iconrumble
          last edited by 20 May 2016, 03:08

          @iconrumble
          I installed raspian to see if the same thing would happen after unplugging. Did the shutdown option, then waited for the lights to stop blinking (30 secs) and unplugged. After plugging back in it booted back up, but went into recovery mode, then rebooted and booted right into the raspian os just fine.

          Also, I dont know if this has to do with anything, but I am using a hdmi to vga connector in my setup.

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            opensourcefan
            last edited by opensourcefan 20 May 2016, 04:56

            I first had this problem and still have it after updating to the newest kernel (4.4). I believe it's a bug but don't know where to report it.

            If I do a hard shutdown by killing the power it'll boot up just fine but when shutdown via the menu it hangs on start up. All of this started after the original kernel update to fix the PS3 bluetooth freeze issue. I did not do the full update which came out a few days later.

            RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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              andrew_tn
              last edited by 20 May 2016, 06:05

              would reverting back to a previous retropie version fix this situation? im just trying to play pre n64 games.

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                opensourcefan
                last edited by 20 May 2016, 06:49

                @andrew_tn

                I don't know if it would or not. In my case having the PS3 controller not freezing is more important so I never explored reverting back. Sooner or later though I'm going to have a corrupt card I guess because I've been doing hard shutdowns for a while now.

                RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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                  andrew_tn
                  last edited by 20 May 2016, 14:26

                  Anyone else have any suggestions on fixing this issue? Its driving me crazy!

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                    andrew_tn
                    last edited by 21 May 2016, 03:05

                    I also tried quitting emulation station and doing "sudo shutdown -h now" and it still doesn't boot up after plugging in. Does no one else have this problem?

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                      opensourcefan
                      last edited by 21 May 2016, 05:57

                      Weird huh, it makes me think it's just us or no one is shutting their systems down. Maybe everyone is doing hard shutdowns without caring, that's me right now.

                      RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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                        andrew_tn
                        last edited by andrew_tn 22 May 2016, 01:38

                        Well, after much trying of different things, I finally figured out a way to get it to work.

                        I installed raspbian and just use that to start emulation station. When I want to unplug my unit i quit emulationstation, and go to the prompt and do a 'shutdown -h now' and it seems to do well, no corruption yet, like before.

                        Not sure why this saves my card but it does.

                        Hope this helps someone with the same issue.

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                          opensourcefan
                          last edited by 22 May 2016, 03:54

                          Can someone (using the latest update) at least report that the shutdown is working for them?

                          RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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                            mediamogul Global Moderator @opensourcefan
                            last edited by mediamogul 22 May 2016, 06:28

                            @opensourcefan

                            Shutdown works fine for me, although it takes close to a full five minutes with the sheer volume of games I have loaded. Are you able to ssh into the pi while it's hanging? Also andrew_tn, one thing I notice from your description of the events is that you're using activity lights to exclusively judge when the device has completely shutdown. Are you not able to witness the shutdown routine from your monitor? Shutdown times can vary wildly depending on a few factors, but waiting "a whole minute" might not be enough time and sounds a lot like guesswork.

                            Edit: Nevermind, you meant "a whole minute" after you see the "no hdmi input" message from your monitor.

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                              opensourcefan
                              last edited by 22 May 2016, 07:35

                              @mediamogul

                              Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. My screen goes dark within 5 seconds of using the shutdown. I watch my green led flash for a bit then it goes out and only leaves the red on obviously. Prior to my kernel update it would shut down with the green light on solid.

                              Is there another way to tell if it's shut down properly with the screen dark? Upon its hanging the screen stays black and the green led just pulses evenly.

                              RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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                                fourlights
                                last edited by 22 May 2016, 07:48

                                I'm getting this on a pi 2 and pi3, with 3 different memory cards and on 3.6 and 3.7 (just freshly downloaded both images). Similarly, I've been waiting 5 minutes+ after the display switches off before unplugging the power. (I've tried multiple power adapters too).

                                Reboots work fine, but a shutdown from anywhere (cli or emulationstation) bricks it. Only way to fix is to re-image the card. Have tested each device independantly with raspbian on the same cards and they work fine so its not either the pi or the cards. Don't get any display so cant see if its hanging at a particular boot phase or not, but I'd speculate and say its not getting to the OS.

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                                  opensourcefan
                                  last edited by opensourcefan 22 May 2016, 16:50

                                  I've reported this issue, anyone having the same issue please go and add whatever information you have to help those in the know fix it.

                                  RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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                                    opensourcefan
                                    last edited by 22 May 2016, 22:37

                                    Fixed:

                                    Okay so in my case I had just upgraded the kernel to 4.4, this was before the whole dist-upgrade was out. Today I did the full dist-upgrade, downgraded my bluetooth to 1.0 and shutdown appears to be working again.

                                    In order this is what I did:

                                    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
                                    sudo reboot
                                    wget http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/p/pi-bluetooth/pi-bluetooth_0.1.0_armhf.deb
                                    sudo dpkg -i pi-bluetooth_0.1.0_armhf.deb
                                    sudo reboot

                                    After that the shutdown worked just fine.

                                    RPI3, v 3.7 from SD Image, Last update, Bluetooth v1.0, Child-Friendly ES, 3 amp Power Supply, Case w/fan.

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                                      mediamogul Global Moderator
                                      last edited by 22 May 2016, 22:58

                                      Nice job!

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