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    EmulationStation GUI sluggish with scrapped systems

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    • RedDogR
      RedDog @pjft
      last edited by

      After working on things a bit more, I found that the retropie GUI menu was also sluggish in the same way when first booted up. So I decided to reimage the card, test from scratch, and then begin to slowly add things back in. At this point, I do not have the sluggishness in the GUI and most of the gamelists now have images. It did not appear to be related to the theme, although at one point I began to have a feeling that it may have had to do with the number of roms moved onto the USB drive at one time.

      Now that I have a better idea of how responsive EmulationStation can be, at least I have something to shoot for in case I need to restart again.

      I appreciate your advice. At some point, I am going to try offloading the assets to the USB driver to speed things up even more.

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      • pjftP
        pjft @RedDog
        last edited by

        @RedDog great to hear, and sorry you're going through that.

        Do let us know if we can help, and definitely consider scraping things on your computer.

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        • RWM79R
          RWM79 @RedDog
          last edited by RWM79

          @RedDog I know you have resolved it for now, but I had the same issue but it was just with 1 game. I could browse down through my list just fine, but when I got to that one game - 2 second delay as I hit it and then it loaded fine. I could go past that game and everything below it was fine - everything above it was fine, but when I scrolled to that single game - it would have the delay. It turned out that the image it was trying to load was actually missing, but I had it setup to show video so I never knew the image was missing.

          Sounds like this may not have been the case for you since you were just using images, but I thought I would share.

          I think ES processes every piece of metadata whether it uses it to display in the Detail or Video view or not.

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          • RedDogR
            RedDog
            last edited by

            @pjft Thanks again for the help. I needed someplace to start from and you gave me some things to think about that gave me the direction.

            @RWM79 My situation is a bit different in that it really was anything that had a graphic tied to it.

            So I did some more work on the Pi3 and the GUI sluggishness it happened again. This was after doing a reformat of the USB drive and placing the files back on. I decided to redo the USB drive from scratch by formatting it, adding the retropie directory, letting Retropie create the file structure, and THEN moving the files back...and everything worked great, until I moved more files. So I then renamed the retropie directory to retropie_old, created a new retropie directory, let retropie create the structure, and then copied the files over...and it worked great again. So, while I don't know why the issue would happen, I at least have an easy fix.

            Anyway, I am starting to learn the a few ins and out. I've got root access to the Pi3 via filezilla so I can change some configs. I've done some tinkering in the ternimal. It's a start.

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            • spruce_m00seS
              spruce_m00se
              last edited by

              just FYI,
              I have at least 6 systems on mine, with 20 or so roms in each, some have more, and I have ZERO delay between pressing down and the cursor moving, there is a small (200ms) or so delay in showing the metadata, but not in the cursor moving or the sound effect being played.

              I run everything directly from a 64gb U3 micro sd card, (i think its U3, could be wrong, but its a fast one)

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              • AlexMurphyA
                AlexMurphy Banned @spruce_m00se
                last edited by

                @spruce_m00se I have 16 systems, approx 1000 ROMs, on a 32GB card. Class 6, I think. I have had no issues since updating. I know we love to help people here but sometimes you just need to wipe and start over!

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                • spruce_m00seS
                  spruce_m00se @AlexMurphy
                  last edited by

                  @AlexMurphy then make your own image when you have a working system!

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                  • AlexMurphyA
                    AlexMurphy Banned @spruce_m00se
                    last edited by

                    @spruce_m00se I do. Once a month. As a back-up.

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                    • pjftP
                      pjft @AlexMurphy
                      last edited by

                      @AlexMurphy @spruce_m00se I am kind of paranoid about that, so I sometimes end up doing one every week or couple of weeks. It's still a sense of frustration when something goes wrong and I need to go back to a backup, though - "oh, what did I do or change since then, that I'm not remembering now?".

                      It's really a minor problem though.

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                      • AlexMurphyA
                        AlexMurphy Banned @pjft
                        last edited by AlexMurphy

                        @pjft It depends how often you change things, I suppose. And how much free disk space you have. I have things pretty much as I want these days, so once a month does me for back-ups.

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                        • RedDogR
                          RedDog
                          last edited by

                          What do you use to create an image? Just pop the card in a SD Adaptor and use any Windows imaging software?

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                          • AlexMurphyA
                            AlexMurphy Banned @RedDog
                            last edited by

                            @RedDog I use Win32DiskImager. Etcher would work too. If you want to save space on your disk you can zip it and compress it.

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                            • RedDogR
                              RedDog
                              last edited by

                              @AlexMurphy Cool, thanks.

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                              • pjftP
                                pjft @RedDog
                                last edited by

                                @RedDog If I was on Windows I'd probably do that. Interested in learning what people use.

                                I'm on a Mac, so I use ApplePi-Baker, though I won't recommend it directly as it's closed source and requests your sudo password to run dd (which is needed, but still doesn't make me less suspicious).

                                @AlexMurphy you're right, that's what I aim to get to as well. My problem is that, between listening to old games' podcasts or having old games come to mind every now and then, I'm frequently adding "oh, just one more game" to the collection. Last week I took note of a couple ZX Spectrum games I forgot to add originally, so those will make it there soon. :)

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                                • AlexMurphyA
                                  AlexMurphy Banned @pjft
                                  last edited by

                                  @pjft Yip. I know. And I keep doing the same but it's good to have a point to start from. At the moment I'm really only trying to get obscure stuff set up. I got Daphne working... which I was amazed at, and never play because it is shite. All my ROMs are on the laptop or just a click away.

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                                  • spruce_m00seS
                                    spruce_m00se
                                    last edited by

                                    I have my roms on a NAS alogn with all of my other files, so when I download a new rom, i stick it on the Pi and the NAS, so my roms are all backed up, I dont care about that,

                                    what I care to backup is the scraping which takes a bloody age to get done, I do not want to repeat that!

                                    then I stick saved games over on the NAS as and when I decide I have any that I care about.

                                    I prefer to spend my time playing though, I spent an hour last night watching the screen flash text while LR-Mame installed, only to find that the game ran slow :(

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