Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?
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@recompile I have changed C source a bit and updated it on dropbox. It is same in functionality so it should work as expected. I have just streamlined a bit.
I didnt think that the change was so small. FreeJ2ME is fine too.
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@hex I guess my next step is to start working on the per-game configuration.
On the C side, I'm guessing you're going to work on joystick support and whatever you need for RetroArch/libretro?
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@recompile I think it would be best to read ES input config file and decide key bindings based on that. That is what all libretro emulators do. If we are able to get a fixed key bindings then we wouldnt need separate configurations things. The config files would just as well have screen resolution and Jar file location. This will save us considerable time.
Joystick support is not a priority at present. I shall implement it none the less at a later stage. It looks to be a bit complicated to maintain calibrations and other settings
Yes & No (Soft 1,2) -> L&R
Dpad keys -> Dpad
1,3,7,9 -> ABXY
Select and start for special usage as needed.We can also have possibly Select + ABXY for combos to control emulator and * and # if necessary.
Or any other combination of controls. We have 12 buttons which seems sufficient for majority of games.
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@recompile said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
java -jar freej2me-rpi.jar file:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/j2me/ShadoWalker.jar 240 320
I tried running with different Jar files and all of them error out "Couldn't load jar..."
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Big performance boost:
http://drichardson-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/freej2me-rpi.jar@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Joystick support is not a priority at present.
? Seems pretty important to me. It was your biggest concern when this whole thing started. Did you decide that you were happy with keyboard only?
@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
I tried running with different Jar files and all of them error out "Couldn't load jar..."
That's a pretty early failure. Check your paths and permissions. This should tell you more: http://drichardson-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/freej2me-rpi-dbg.jar
Has anyone else had trouble?
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@recompile It is expecting a file:// or http:// url. , my bad :|
Starts up now. Can we additionally add numpad control (but inverted ie key 1 on NumPad 7 click)
If I exit application from emulator I get this "MIDlet sent Destroyed Notification" but the emulator doesnt exit. C is also left open.
If you want I can get joystick working as it works with ES. Do you have one to test it on. I dont have any. If you do then I shall get to it ASAP.
How do you like this way of separating functionality rather than diving into JNI?
@recompile said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Big performance boost:
Can you elaborate. This is my version of gossip :)
@recompile said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Has anyone else had trouble?
I dont think anyone else is testing progress.
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@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Are you checking difference between Key Pressed and Released.
Of course. Games wouldn't work if I didn't.
@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Can you print events / Key presses detected in your debug version.
Sure:
http://drichardson-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/freej2me-rpi-dbg.jar@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Can you elaborate. This is my version of gossip :)
Nothing fancy. I now make an additional copy of the frame data (to make a byte array) so that I can send it in one call to sdl_interface. It made a huge difference. Going from "just make it work" to "do it the right way" often does that.
@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
If you want I can get joystick working as it works with ES. Do you have one to test it on.
That'll be okay. I have one suitable for testing. I figure most people will want to play with a controller and not a keyboard. Don't you have one on your pi 0? The picture you sent shows a d-pad and a couple buttons.
It occurred to me that we might be talking about two different things. When I say 'joystick' I mean any gamepad/controller/whatever.
@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Can we additionally add numpad control (but inverted ie key 1 on NumPad 7 click)
Sure:
http://drichardson-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/freej2me-rpi.jar -
@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
If I exit application from emulator I get this "MIDlet sent Destroyed Notification" but the emulator doesnt exit. C is also left open.
I fixed that as well.
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@recompile I was sending key down for key up too causing the problem :| Fixed that.
If I exit application from emulator I get this "MIDlet sent Destroyed Notification" but the emulator doesnt exit. C is also left open.Saw updated commentI will update C to include those events. (Joystick events) and let you know once done.
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@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
If I exit application from emulator I get this "MIDlet sent Destroyed Notification" but the emulator doesnt exit. C is also left open.
The dbg version didn't have that fixed. Here's an update:
http://drichardson-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/freej2me-rpi-dbg.jar -
@recompile Joystick handling is a tad bit complicated. I will do it tomorrow. Its 1:30 am here in LA.
I played the game Shadow Walker and I must say we have come a long way :)
If you want you can update C from dropbox and test it out. I have migrated the byte array "out" to vector.
Let us refresh things on our todo list. Please append if I forgot anything.
Todo :
- Gamepad support
- Joystick support (optional; Long term)
- Audio support
- Hide Game's log output (optional)
- m3g support (long term)
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@hex said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Gamepad support
Joystick support (optional; Long term)These are the same thing to me. (I use the terms joystick and gamepad interchangeably) As you're differentiating between them, when I say "joystick" I'm thinking of a gamepad.
I'd like to also add m3g support. That'll be a while.
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Yea for me Game pad is SNES controller (Dpad ABXY LR). Joystick are the two analog sticks on Xbox controller
what is m3g?
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@hex m3g is the Mobile 3D Graphics API from JSR 184. Some later games used this, like The Sims 3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
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Would the N-Gage use the same architecture as J2ME? I saw a video that showed a N-Gage game playing on a Nokia N70 using emulation.
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from what i can remember from owning an n70, n95 & ngage back in the day, im sure they were symbian based,
cant wait to try this when its ready, so glad i kept a backup of all the java/ngage games i must have in the region of about 1000 for various mobile devices.
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I would like to play old cell phone games and also game for Nokia N-Gage they were great!
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J2ME is not symbian emulator. So no you cannot play symbian games.
@recompile I have different pixel interpolation methods while scaling. Would you be interested in testing those out? We can expose this in config if necessary.
// Change this line. Valid values : "nearest", "linear", "best" SDL_SetHint(SDL_HINT_RENDER_SCALE_QUALITY, "nearest"); // Linear is pixelated, no interpolation // Linear is Bilinear interpolation // Best is anisotropic interpolation
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@allanbuzzy said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Would the N-Gage use the same architecture as J2ME?
The N-Gage could run j2me games, but the few N-Gage specific games I have are all Symbian native. From what I remember, however, there weren't too many exclusive games released for the short-lived console. Asphalt Urban GT and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, for example, saw both j2me and Symbian releases, though the j2me releases often supported higher resolutions than the 176x208 you got on the N-Gage.
For j2me games made for Nokia phones or the N-Gage, I've already added full support for the Nokia UI API.
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@recompile said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
@allanbuzzy said in Would you like to play Nokia (J2ME) games on Retropie?:
Would the N-Gage use the same architecture as J2ME?
The N-Gage could run j2me games, but the few N-Gage specific games I have are all Symbian native. From what I remember, however, there weren't too many exclusive games released for the short-lived console. Asphalt Urban GT and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, for example, saw both j2me and Symbian releases, though the j2me releases often supported higher resolutions than the 176x208 you got on the N-Gage.
For j2me games made for Nokia phones or the N-Gage, I've already added full support for the Nokia UI API.
So N-Gage is supported? Awesome, that's good.
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