Versatile C++ game scraper: Skyscraper

Clyde

@muldjord A nanosecond?! Oh, noooooo! 😮 😉

Seriously, thanks for the explanation!

iKarith

Just want to say thanks muldjord for a really cool batch scraper! When it works, it works amazingly well! When it doesn't … I'm pretty sure it's partly user error on my part, and partly that I need to use a combination of more advanced features I glimpse are there to do what I want, but … not in the way I am trying to use them.

I have a little experience with technical documentation writing, so perhaps if I give you a couple of examples and what I've done, you can tell me how I should have solved these issues. I may also be able to contribute a helper script to do what I think might have helped in one or both of these cases…

The first is this:

~/RetroPie/roms/nes/Tetris (U) [!].7z
~/RetroPie/roms/nes/Tetris (Unl).7z

These both get picked up as Nintendo's Tetris. As you can probably guess, the second is Atari/Tengen Tetris. I looked up on screenscraper.fr that the expected name for the second is "Tetris - The Soviet Mind Game". All right, so I added this line to my aliasMap.csv:

Tetris (Unl);Tetris - The Soviet Mind Game

I removed metadata for both from EmulationStation to be sure what I did would have the correct result and re-scraped. And what I got was that Nintendo Tetris now had no data, and Tengen Tetris had the Nintendo data.

I found a version of the game online as "Tetris - The Soviet Mind Game (Unl) (U).zip" and so renamed mine to match with .7z extension and re-scraped. Worked. But my understanding is that the alias should have done that for me?

The other is Night Trap. I have both Sega CD and Sega CD 32x versions. Again, ScreenScraper has the latter named "Night Trap (32x)", so following conventions seen elsewhere, I've done this:

~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap/Night Trap (USA) (Disc 1).bin
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap/Night Trap (USA) (Disc 1).cue
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap/Night Trap (USA) (Disc 2).bin
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap/Night Trap (USA) (Disc 2).cue
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap (32X) (USA)/Night Trap (32x) (USA) (Disc 1).cue
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap (32X) (USA)/Night Trap (32x) (USA) (Disc 1) (Track 1).bin
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap (32X) (USA)/Night Trap (32x) (USA) (Disc 1) (Track 2).bin
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap (32X) (USA)/Night Trap (32x) (USA) (Disc 2).cue
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap (32X) (USA)/Night Trap (32x) (USA) (Disc 2) (Track 1).bin
~/RetroPie/roms/segacd/Night Trap (32X) (USA)/Night Trap (32x) (USA) (Disc 2) (Track 2).bin

(AFAIK PicoDrive doesn't support zipping these things nor combining them into CHD files, so … I chose to use subdirectories for sanity.)

These are both recognized as the 1992 Sega CD release. (And in fact most of my 32x games are not recognized at all despite having entries on ScreenScraper.) The 1994 Sega CD 32X release is there, however, it's just not being used.

I … haven't solved this one, save for manually editing emulationstation metadata.

The helper script it seems to me might be useful is effectively skyscraper-helper --cache-data <path to rom> to specifically try to re-fetch metadata for a specific ROM either with no data or with incorrect data. I understand that interactive selection is possible, but not through the RetroPie setup script, and the interactive selection might have allowed me to choose which of two possible Tetrises I was looking at. I don't know if that would have worked on Night Trap 32x, but if I could have specified more data to help narrow down the search … as I said, all I need to do is tell screenscraper that I've got the 32x version and it comes right up.

I think this helper script I'd like is probably not real hard to write. Seems that most of the components are in Skyscraper's existing arguments and the rest could be synthesized by combining them, but I need some confirmation on how. Pass any args starting with - (possibly parsing --flags to append to the --flags we're passing), and take anything else (or after --) and treat it as a filename … and then --startat and --endat I think? That's unclear to me.

But I'd be happy to suggest clarification and write the script to interactively attempt to figure these things out if you can clarify.

muldjord

@ikarith This actually seems to be a problem on ScreenScrapers end.

But first, let me clear some things up. The aliasMap.csv file is only used by filename based search modules. ScreenScraper uses checksum hashes or exact filename searches and therefore makes no use of the aliasMap.csv at all. So that won't help you in this case.

If ScreenScraper gives you back a faulty game, it is most likely because the checksum of your file or the exact filename, is connected to a wrong game inside of their database. This is not a rare thing to happen.

My suggestion is to log on to their website and find the specific checksum or filename that matches your files, and see if they are incorrectly connected to the wrong versions of those games. You can then proceed to correct that on their website as well. When the correction has been approved, you can then proceed to rescrape the games.

retro81

Hi @muldjord, first of all thanks for developing this amazing script for retropie!

I have a problem when fetching covers from screenscraper.fr - if the game has a flyer (like Samurai Shodown for NeoGeo) then the box is composed using the game "flyer" instead of the "box2D" art, any ideas why this happens and how to correct it? I'm using the default artwork.xml

Thanks!

retro81

I actually found this was a feature implemented in 3.4.3, any way to fine-tune skyscraper to either use flyers or actual box art? I use the retropie script.

retro81

Hi @muldjord, would it be possible to include the game hard/support media download as an option?

I like the way our ScreenScraper.fr friends do their "recalbox-mixes" including the game support media, here's a sample: https://www.screenscraper.fr/medias/113/176930/mixrbv2(sp).png

muldjord

@retro81 Hi, no, the ScreenScraper specific media won't be supported as they are unique to ScreenScraper and Skyscraper supports many different scraping sources. I don't want to turn Skyscraper into a ScreenScraper scraper.

But you can create a very similar result using Skyscraper's artwork compositor. It's documented here by using the already supported media types and add some custom frames and masks.

EDIT: A quick note: I am not currently active in developing Skyscraper beyond fixing bugs.

muldjord

@retro81 In the current version it will fetch "flyer" for all arcade platforms including "neogeo". But I see that that might not be optimal. So I've removed "neogeo" from that list. From 3.6.7 it will use "box-2D" instead. Thanks for letting me know.

EDIT: 3.6.7 out now with this change included. Please update your Skyscraper version and rescrape the neogeo platform with cache refresh enabled (important!).

retro81

@muldjord thank you for both responses!

Rion

@muldjord Would you consider adding support for Batocera?

muldjord

@rion Just did a Google search and I assume you mean Batocera Linux, right? I won't personally support it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work already. As long as it has Qt5 included and a build chain, you should be able to install it using the description at the Skyscraper github. How to get Qt5 on there is up to the user to figure out. Maybe it's in the Batocera package manager already (if there is such a thing, I have never heard of the distribution before just now).

Rion

@muldjord You should really try it out. It's a great distribution both for sbc's but also for an x86_64 PC.

Skyscraper is not yet available in the Batocera pacman repository. But could probably be in the future.

What i wanted to know is if you would think/consider to implement support for more systems supported by Batocera. I'm completely fine if i could just use it on my Linux machine and scrape the roms there.

Cause i just love how the artwork looks with Skyscraper and there is no better alternative out there! 😃

https://wiki.batocera.org/emulators

muldjord

@rion If they are major platforms that are related to consoles or home computers I will consider it. But I do have a lot of requests to add obscure "homebrew" and or / sub-platforms that I do not wish to support as they are often either too obscure or already supported by "arcade" or others.

Mainly Skyscraper was made to support the RetroPie naming scheme and platforms. I have, however, added some platforms besides that that I felt made sense. I am quite restricting when it comes to adding more, as I don't want to bloat Skyscraper too much.

But if you have a couple of platforms that you feel could fall under the RetroPie umbrella, I'd need the same info as found on the RetroPie supported platform pages, which is:

Platform name and shortname (eg. "Nintendo Entertainment System" / "nes")
File extensions (*.this, *.that)

But no promises I'll add them. :)

Obi-Wan

Not sure where to post this, but I felt it should be mentioned somewhere.

Scraping does not work on Windows with version 3.6.7, but works fine with the previous version, 3.5.8.

I was so happy to find Skyscraper because it seemed like a really nice tool, so I was a bit bummed out about the lack of Windows-support and even more so when I couldn't get it to work. But the second I tried the older 3.5.8 version scraping worked immediately.

I get the same behavior on two separate Windows systems. This reproduces the behavior on both my systems:

Download Skyscraper and unzip to C:\work\
Copy contents of the deploy folder to my user-folder
Open Powershell in Skyscraper-folder (cmd has the same behavior)
In PS, run: .\Skyscraper.exe -s thegamesdb -p snes -i "C:/work/ROMS"

3.6.7 returns Game not found
3.5.8 works fine.

I have no idea if I've missed something else here, but with 3.6.7 I got nowhere and with 3.5.8 everything seems to work as intended.

muldjord

@obi-wan I might look into this one of the coming days. And thank you for the detailed description, that is highly appreciated.

muldjord

@obi-wan Please redownload it from the same link. It was missing an OpenSSL dll that I've now included. I've tested it on my Windows dev machine and it works now. Let me know if it works for you too.

Obi-Wan

@muldjord Thanks a bunch! :) I was thrown off my emulator project for a while, but I'm back at it and 3.6.7 seems to work perfectly well now! Appreciate it, especially because the Windows version is not really supported!

muldjord

@obi-wan Yeah, I don't really support it beyond releasing it. But I at least want it to work, so thanks for reporting that. I don't really use it myself so... :D

muldjord

Quick show of hands: Would anyone be against me removing the "Simple mode" from Skyscraper? The questionnaire mode that it runs if you run Skyscraper without command line parameters. I haven't updated it in ages and it seems that it's currently broken. I never liked it, and I kind of want to remove it completely.

Given that the RetroPie Skyscraper script is much better I feel like "Simple mode" is deprecated.

Clyde

@muldjord Since I never noticed it until you mentioned it now, I don't mind. 😉