FBA vs. MAME

cosmo0

So, new list for still-missing classics, based on the lists found here:
mame: https://pastebin.com/2UTySn6L
fba: https://pastebin.com/tUMb5CsR
advancemame: https://pastebin.com/2eaqNxGF

I will try to test these games.
@thelostsoul : I have no idea how I'll declare one emulator the best one. I'm guessing it's a matter of speed and bugs first, then personal preference.

rom	title
720	720 Degrees (rev 4)
1943kai	1943 Kai: Midway Kaisen (Japan)
airwolf	Airwolf
arknoid2	Arkanoid - Revenge of DOH (World)
bionicc	Bionic Commando (Euro)
bublbobl	Bubble Bobble (Japan, Ver 0.1)
fantzn2	Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (MC-8123, 317-0057)
gng	Ghosts'n Goblins (World? set 1)
gradius4	Gradius IV: Fukkatsu (ver JAC)
gt2k	Golden Tee 2K (v1.00)
invadpt2	Space Invaders Part II (Taito)
jojoba	JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Mirai e no Isan (Japan 990927)
marble	Marble Madness (set 1)
mk4	Mortal Kombat 4 (version 3.0)
mshu	Marvel Super Heroes (951024 USA)
nbapbp	NBA Play By Play (ver JAA)
offroad	Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road
orunners	OutRunners (World)
pbobble4	Puzzle Bobble 4 (Ver 2.04O 1997/12/19)
polepos	Pole Position (World)
polepos2	Pole Position II (Japan)
rampart	Rampart (Trackball)
rbtapper	Tapper (Root Beer)
roadblst	Road Blasters (upright, rev 4)
rtype	R-Type (World)
sf2	Street Fighter II - The World Warrior (910522 etc)
sf2ce	Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition (street fighter 2' 920513 etc)
tron	Tron (8/9)
turbo	Turbo (program 1513-1515)
vanguard	Vanguard (SNK)
wbml	Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043)
xevious	Xevious (Namco)

sub_atomic

Edit: Figured it out. I was using a split set instead of non-merged.

UDb23

@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

vspu.zip from FBA 0.2.97.42 does not work in lr-fbalpha.

The DAT file for .43 is available; have you checked the ROM with it ?
.43 FBA release notes mention that ROMs have been synced with newer Mame sets.

sub_atomic

@udb23 I edited my post once I figured out it was because I grabbed it out of a split set.

sub_atomic

Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?

barbudreadmon

@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.

markwkidd

@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?

Please feel free to report the issue with Darius Gaiden in mame2003's github repository if you like. I don't think I've seen that submitted as an issue and it may be possible to fix by backporting from a later mame version.

Loggahead

@pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:

Also, where is the config to identify which games I am using MAME 2010? I know the Rampage games need 2010.

I put all of my roms in the arcade folder and use 2003, 2010, and fba to run them. I found that the emulators.cfg file under configs/all contains the info on which emulator is being used for which particualr rom if it is anything other than the default for that folder.

sub_atomic

@barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

@sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.

In the text files linked in this thread, it's listed as best in fb alpha, so that needs to be updated.

Deltax5

I am using mame 2003 at the moment but some games on FBA. I can say FBA is actually a better emulator if you put in accuracy I don't remember what the setting it called. Thou you kinda need your pi overclocked quite a bit for neogeo games and down to run good.
I don't know much about mame settings what you guys say?

barbudreadmon

@andershp There was some changes to the gyruss mcu (music core unit) with the new release, let me know if it fixes your "fuzzy" sound issue. The hiscore seems to work properly too.

sub_atomic

Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

barbudreadmon

@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.

sub_atomic

@johnodon

arcade_nbbatmanu = "lr-mame2003" should be arcade_nbbatman = "lr-mame2003"

@barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

@sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.

Ah, got it. Works much better now, thanks!

cosmo0

I have tested my list under FBA and MAME 2003. I haven't tested under Advance MAME, because I don't have a keyboard, so I can't setup the controls.

I have updated my lists accordingly. I used FBA as "best" as long as it didn't have obvious problems (slowdowns or crashes). I'm assuming the games that don't work properly (or at all) in either FBA or MAME2003 probably work on AdvanceMAME.

name	fba	mame2003
1943kai	ok	-
720	-	ok
airwolf	ok	ok
arknoid2	way too sensitive	a bit too sensitive, not quite playable
bionicc	ok	ok
bublbobl	ok	ok
fantzn2	-	black screen at launch
gng	ok	ok
gt2k	-	-
gradius4	-	-
offroad	-	ok
jojoba	ok	-
marble	-	ok
mshu	ok	ok
mk4	-	so slow it makes the system unresponsive
nbapbp	-	-
orunners	-	broken display, screen stuck on top left
polepos	-	ok
polepos2	-	ok
pbobble4	parent crashes - pbobble4u is slow	ok
rtype	ok	ok
rampart	-	ok
ramprt2p	-	ok
roadblst	-	ok
invadpt2	-	ok
sf2	ok	ok
sf2ce	ok	ok
rbtapper	-	stuck on system check, makes the sytem unresponsive
tron	-	no control is set up, not even credit
turbo	-	ok
vanguard	-	ok
wbml	ok	ok
xevious	-	ok

grant2258

tron and rbtapper work on mame2003 you need to update to a later version the was an issue with bally and input on some other games. That has been addressed already.

One side effect is the dip switch setting from the buged games that were started arent set right the easiest solution is to delete everything in the cfg dir accept for default.cfg or delete the rbtapper.cfg and tron.cfg these games do work. I dont have a list of them all but rbtapper can be fixed from the tab menu if you want to do it the hard way

Loggahead

I noticed last night that fba is playing green beret / rush'n attack extremely fast. I know it was running at normal speed for me at one point. The only thing I know of changing was upgrading to retropie 4.4 and I've upgraded fba from source. Can anyone else test those games and see if it's doing the same for you?

grant2258

@loggahead said in FBA vs. MAME:

d for me at one point. The only thing I know of changing was upgrading to retropie 4.4 and I've upgraded fba from source. Can anyone else test those games and see if it's doing the

maybe there timing setup wasnt setup right for retroach and the update knocked it off or a regression of some sort in the code. Mame2003+ is running that games
perfect if you want to play it. Mame2003 should be fine to just use the binary atm there a pull request in for mame2003 for a few fixes

Loggahead

@grant2258 Maybe I'll give 2003+ a shot. I remember that Rush'n Attack / Green Beret didn't work properly in Mame2003. When the game would boot it was just bringing up a volume slider on the screen. Similar to Spy Hunter and Rampage.

markwkidd

@loggahead said in FBA vs. MAME:

@grant2258 Maybe I'll give 2003+ a shot. I remember that Rush'n Attack / Green Beret didn't work properly in Mame2003. When the game would boot it was just bringing up a volume slider on the screen. Similar to Spy Hunter and Rampage.

That is all fixed now in mame2003-plus. Eventually the fixes may go back to mame2003