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    • herb_fargusH
      herb_fargus administrators
      last edited by herb_fargus

      It's generally at the end of February when the raspberry pi foundation releases new things. So what do you think it will be this year?

      I don't think the pi 4 will happen til at minimum next year if not 2 years. Perhaps this year will just be a hiatus.

      If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

      Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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      • obsidianspiderO
        obsidianspider @herb_fargus
        last edited by

        People complaining that they aren't faster

        Oh, you meant from the Pi foundation... ;)

        📷 @obsidianspider

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        • PokeEngineerP
          PokeEngineer @herb_fargus
          last edited by PokeEngineer

          @herb_fargus

          Probably some hardware updates to a pre-existing Pi.

          Don't sweat it.
          When in doubt, take a BYTE out of life.

          😎

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            zerojay
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            Pi3 with 2GB of RAM.

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            • rbakerR
              rbaker
              last edited by

              I think that the manufacturing process limits what can be achieved beyond what has already been delivered. I don't expect to see anything until 2019 and even then most likely an optimised version of what we currently have with perhaps more ram.

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              • RascasR
                Rascas @zerojay
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                @zerojay The SoC used in all the Raspberry Pis till now have a maximum adressable memory of 1 GB of RAM. To release a new one with 2GB RAM it would have to be a completely new SoC, which won't happen soon.

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                • herb_fargusH
                  herb_fargus administrators @Rascas
                  last edited by

                  @rascas said in Raspberry pi speculation:

                  To release a new one with 2GB RAM it would have to be a completely new SoC, which won't happen soon.

                  This guy knows what's up. Eben Upton discussed it a bit more in an interview last year (don't have the link off the top of my head)

                  If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                  Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                  • PokeEngineerP
                    PokeEngineer @zerojay
                    last edited by

                    @zerojay

                    I ment small hardware updates...

                    Don't sweat it.
                    When in doubt, take a BYTE out of life.

                    😎

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                    • fabio78F
                      fabio78
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                      I’m not counting with a Pi 4 either, though I feel this is a year for an upgrade for me. I’m waiting to see if those RK3399 Rockchips will improve within the next months (so much power yet benchmarks for emulation have been appalling). If not, I’ll be settling for the Odroid XU4, especially now with Retropie standalone.

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                      • FruitybitF
                        Fruitybit @herb_fargus
                        last edited by

                        @herb_fargus With the board still at circuit design, not a hope. If we’re very very lucky, stockings may be full come Christmas time.

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                        • SgtJimmyRustlesS
                          SgtJimmyRustles
                          last edited by SgtJimmyRustles

                          @fabio78 said in Raspberry pi speculation:

                          I’m not counting with a Pi 4 either, though I feel this is a year for an upgrade for me. I’m waiting to see if those RK3399 Rockchips will improve within the next months (so much power yet benchmarks for emulation have been appalling). If not, I’ll be settling for the Odroid XU4, especially now with Retropie standalone.

                          Those Rock64 systems seem pretty cool, but I'm more interested in the cases they have for it. They got a VERY realistic looking European/Japanese SNES case.

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/7xa917/dev_kits_for_those_interested_awesome/

                          SNES Case

                          Check out /r/SBCGaming for Retropie, Recalbox, OGST (Odroid) talk and more!
                          http://www.reddit.com/r/sbcgaming

                          Hop on the Dicscord as well and chat about all things Retropie (or recalbox, lakka, etc)
                          https://discord.gg/JdXc6nx

                          Check out our Podcast!

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                          • fabio78F
                            fabio78 @SgtJimmyRustles
                            last edited by

                            @sgtjimmyrustles a thing of beauty! Any idea if they sell the case without the board, and how much for?

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                            • SgtJimmyRustlesS
                              SgtJimmyRustles @fabio78
                              last edited by

                              @fabio78

                              They say they will sell the case separately there on the forum. (Link is in the other link I provided) and as far as pricing, they haven't said anything yet, but I think it should be less that $50 (I hope).

                              Check out /r/SBCGaming for Retropie, Recalbox, OGST (Odroid) talk and more!
                              http://www.reddit.com/r/sbcgaming

                              Hop on the Dicscord as well and chat about all things Retropie (or recalbox, lakka, etc)
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                              • B
                                Beldar
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                                Honestly, I think the Pi 4 is going to be great when it hits. However, I also think it will be the last in the Pi series that will be very useful to retro gamers.

                                The 3b does what it does perfectly except N64 is just slightly outside its grasp. It also can fall under 60fps with the most recent SNES9x core or with several other emulators when shaders are applied.

                                If the Pi 4 brings N64 within better reach and gives a performance boost to other emulators, that will be the capstone. It is extremely unlikely that any Pi in the semi-near future will manage PS2 or GC, so I think the Pi 4 will be bitter sweet.

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                                  MSP430
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                                  I hope for RPIZERO3W or a major driver update. Please not the RPI2A ...

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                                  • stooS
                                    stoo
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                                    Pretty sure Eben said "2019 at the earliest" for the RPi4.

                                    VideoCore5 is looking promising, with more than double the perf. of VC4. At the moment they're only integrating it into STB chips but I'd bet good money that BCM are developing a new, full-featured SoC with the Pi in mind.

                                    After all, the only alternative is a different SoC vendor, and I'm sure the foundation wants to keep things as backwards-compatible as possible while maintaining the prices that made the RPi so popular.

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                                    • herb_fargusH
                                      herb_fargus administrators @stoo
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                                      @stoo I saw a thing saying something about the mpeg2 licence expiring? Minimal impact for the pi I would imagine

                                      If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                      Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                        Beldar @herb_fargus
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                                        @herb_fargus I wonder if that will mean mp3 support on linux distros? Other than that, I'm not sure how useful that really is these days.

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                                        • stooS
                                          stoo @Beldar
                                          last edited by

                                          @beldar MP3 patents expired April 2017. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/16/mp3_dies_nobody_noticed/

                                          I think most distros have already moved MP3 decoders out of their non-free repos.

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator @Beldar
                                            last edited by mitu

                                            @beldar MP3 (MPEG-2 Audio Layer III) patent expired in April 2017 in US, already expired in 2012 in the EU. MPEG2 refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2.

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