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      dizmodawg
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      When i typed cat /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/lair.daphne/lair.commands this what i got 0_1520199182086_noise.jpg

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        grant2258 Banned
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        have you tried playing the ogg file on your windows machine just double click it it should open a internet browser

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          dizmodawg @grant2258
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          @grant2258 said in Dragon's Lair no sound:

          have you tried playing the ogg file on your windows machine just double click it it should open a internet browser

          It seems to play in vlc, the ogg file was downloaded using a pc and the dvd i own. Where could i get a different ogg file?

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            grant2258 Banned
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            we cant give links else get banned on here

            do this
            md5sum /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/lair.daphne/lair.ogg

            1dc644a30b14526338c1af756b5cdb5c /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/lair.daphne/lair.ogg

            try using the different bin files one might match your ogg

            ls -b /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair* | grep -v "lair2"

            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_a.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_b.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_c.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_d.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/laireuro.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_e.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_f.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_ita.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_n1.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair_x.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair.zip
            /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/roms/lair.zip.md5

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              grant2258 Banned
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              this should help you with any dvd questions
              https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/1574/dragon-s-lair-from-daphne-download-what-to-do-when-no-lair-zip-file/18

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                dizmodawg
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                So i figured it out. Only one speaker was working on my monitor. All the daphne games will work with 1 speaker except lair. move beeps from one speaker and background music and sound from the other one. Thank's for every one's help.

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                  akafox @dizmodawg
                  last edited by akafox

                  @dizmodawg here is your problem..sorry I didn't see this sooner..

                  you must add the correct configuration to the game or you WILL have that problem. ( the background music for Badlands for example not playing.) I learned this setting up attract mode on my PC with the "default setup". Many games you'll have that problem. Here's how to fix it:

                  1. create a file called dle21.commands in the /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/dle21.daphne folder

                  i.e. /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/dle21.daphne/dle21.commands

                  • you can build it in nano or drop it via ssh

                  • (I use the dle21 version because the dlair version will skip the drawbridge scene)

                  1. paste the command below into the file:

                  -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -bank 0 11111000 -bank 1 00110111 -noserversend -volume_vldp 64 -sound_buffer 960

                  1. save it

                  try it and let me know if that helps :D

                  Here is my original post at the atractmode fourm here.

                  People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                    dizmodawg @akafox
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                    @akafox said in Dragon's Lair no sound:

                    @dizmodawg here is your problem..sorry I didn't see this sooner..

                    you must add the correct configuration to the game or you WILL have that problem. ( the background music for Badlands for example not playing.) I learned this setting up attract mode on my PC with the "default setup". Many games you'll have that problem. Here's how to fix it:

                    1. create a file called dle21.commands in the /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/dle21.daphne folder

                    i.e. /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/dle21.daphne/dle21.commands

                    • you can build it in nano or drop it via ssh

                    • (I use the dle21 version because the dlair version will skip the drawbridge scene)

                    1. paste the command below into the file:

                    -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -bank 0 11111000 -bank 1 00110111 -noserversend -volume_vldp 64 -sound_buffer 960

                    1. save it

                    try it and let me know if that helps :D

                    Here is my original post at the atractmode fourm here.

                    Ok i will try in a couple hours when i get home, Thanks!

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                      caver01 @dizmodawg
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                      @dizmodawg I would hesitate before using @akafox's commands suggestion above for Dragon's Lair DLE21, as the DIP switch settings are not good. They may work, but appear to be possibly borrowed from another ROM configuration. I am referring to these command line parameters: -bank 0 11111000 -bank 1 00110111Some of them may work, but right off the bat I can see that they disregard the Normal Operation setting which should have A3=ON and A7=ON. In the suggested string, A7=OFF and there is no corresponding mode for that combo. There are likely other oddities, such as audio disabled during startup/attract mode (no relation to the software by that name). Or, why is B7=ON set? That puts you into prototype mode. These DIP switches are erroneous as far as I can tell.

                      You can see a nice reference to the DIP switch settings you can use here.

                      Also, nothing you can do in the command line will prevent the audio from going to separate speakers as it does with this game. This is how the sound worked in the original cabinet. There are HD versions of the media that have the sounds mixed to both left and right channels, but that is different, and not controllable via command line.

                      My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                        dizmodawg @caver01
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                        @caver01 said in Dragon's Lair no sound:

                        @dizmodawg I would hesitate before using @akafox's commands suggestion above for Dragon's Lair DLE21, as the DIP switch settings are not good. They may work, but appear to be possibly borrowed from another ROM configuration. I am referring to these command line parameters: -bank 0 11111000 -bank 1 00110111Some of them may work, but right off the bat I can see that they disregard the Normal Operation setting which should have A3=ON and A7=ON. In the suggested string, A7=OFF and there is no corresponding mode for that combo. There are likely other oddities, such as audio disabled during startup/attract mode (no relation to the software by that name). Or, why is B7=ON set? That puts you into prototype mode. These DIP switches are erroneous as far as I can tell.

                        You can see a nice reference to the DIP switch settings you can use here.

                        Also, nothing you can do in the command line will prevent the audio from going to separate speakers as it does with this game. This is how the sound worked in the original cabinet. There are HD versions of the media that have the sounds mixed to both left and right channels, but that is different, and not controllable via command line.

                        Your right don't work so i'm just going to use some tower speakers.

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                        • akafoxA
                          akafox @caver01
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                          @caver01 Strange I will look into that thank you. The command line I used there was directly from the daphne gui. But shrugs I will look into this further :)

                          People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                            caver01 @akafox
                            last edited by caver01

                            @akafox that is odd, as I would not expect it to generate invalid DIP switch settings. Any chance you were using the regular ROM in the GUI to generate it? The DIP switches are definitely different for the DLE21 than for ROMF or the regular ROM.

                            My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                              caver01
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                              Regardless, the speaker issue which ended up being the root cause of the OP cannot be “fixed” without replacing the media files. I ran into this gotcha when I was first setting up my cabinet to run Daphne. I had a problem with one of the Left/Right channels and did not realize it and wondered why I was not getting all of the audio in DL.

                              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                akafox
                                last edited by akafox

                                @caver01

                                (Note that i am working from linux here..NOT windows..note also that the pi is linux based!)

                                dle21 rom command line:
                                ./daphne dle21 vldp -framefile "$HOME/.daphne/vldp/dle21/dle21.txt" -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -homedir $HOME/.daphne -bank 0 11111000 -bank 1 00110111 -sound_buffer 2048 -x 640 -y 480

                                dlair rom command line:
                                ./daphne lair vldp -framefile "$HOME/.daphne/vldp/dle21/dle21.txt" -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -homedir $HOME/.daphne -bank 0 11111001 -bank 1 00100111 -sound_buffer 2048 -x 640 -y 480

                                So you are correct the dips switch settings are different. I used the dle21 rom because the default dlair rom was skipping the drawbridge scene. (As noted here. So pick the version you want to use I guess. shrugs

                                dle21.command file:
                                -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -homedir $HOME/.daphne -bank 0 11111000 -bank 1 00110111 -sound_buffer 2048

                                dlair.command file:
                                -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -homedir $HOME/.daphne -bank 0 11111001 -bank 1 00100111 -sound_buffer 2048

                                The original cabinet may not have been "stereo"..but do not quote me on that. I found that when running Dragon's Lair the "sound" is on the left channel, the "narration" from the right channel. Go with caver01 on this one ;)

                                Getting a copy of the full command from the gui (i.e. daphne loader) and using the ENTIRE command line that was generated I was able to run and start it the game DIRECTLY from the command line and/or Attract Mode and everything worked "flawlessly" on my PC. So I generated one config for each game.

                                I had the same issue on the pi until I added the dlair (dle21).command file..edited correctly of course as shown above. Using the compatibility list on the retropie wiki I was able to create a .command file for each game. They all work great now.

                                People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                                  caver01 @akafox
                                  last edited by caver01

                                  @akafox All I was saying was that your DIP settings for dle21 have a few oddities. I cited examples of specific settings that seem erroneous. Will it work? Sounds like it does, but the ones and zeros seemed arbitrary to me for some of them as I compared them with the docs.

                                  My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                    akafox
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                                    They work for me shrugs

                                    People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                                      grant2258 Banned
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                                      Well they all work fine for me too. The sound coming out a different channel id due to hardware not dip switch settings. More information than you would ever want to know is here. As far s im concerned the script that does a great job if you dont like the dipswitch a good reason report it so it can be fixed so far ive had no troubles.

                                      https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-videogames/D/Dragons Lair Troubleshooting Manual Oct2001.pdf

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