Sound quality in mame not good
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I don't understand this scanning program, and your documentation on it isn't clear, at all.
What does it do?
How is it doing that?
Why does it create games out of thin air?
How do I get working games?
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it reorganises existing romsets to work with different mame versions. Not from thin air. You need at least one mame rom set to use it - the more the better if you want the chance of rebuilding the exact set.
Did you watch the video tutorial ?
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But it doesn't do what I want it to do, it makes more games than I feed it, and when I copy the ones I want they don't work.
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I used the program, I ran the rebuilder, I used the dat file, and I have roms that don't work.
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I've watched your video, I've read your things, I"ve gone over all of this.
My source folder of roms has 6 files.
The rebuilt folder ends up with 105!
Nearly 100 files appear out of nowhere that I do not want!
And the 6 games I do want to play, don't work!
Something is wrong, I do not know what, and I require assistance with this.
From what is being explained, I think non-merged is what I want, so that the individual files I want will stand on their own. But I've tried every setting, and my roms DO NOT WORK!
Also, I've looked high and low and cannot found the mentioned zip file that was referenced earlier, which apparently it is forbidden to give me the one key piece of information that would solve all of these problems so I don't have to jump through hoops and run programs that don't actually do what they're supposed to do even when I follow the written and video instructions carefully.
I appreciate your help, but please understand, I am frustrated and feel like my time has been wasted on what should be much simpler.
How can I get this to work? Please, how can I get this to work?
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Why can no one answer my simple questions?
I've pointed out several times now that I've followed your instructions and I get games out of nowhere, which no one has explained, and that the files it creates do not work.
I've done what you've asked of me, and it doesn't work.
What now?
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@Gators I have had mixed luck using CLRMAMEPRO in the past, so I understand what you are going through. Obviously, some of your ROMS are not correct. Some can still work if the zip files haven't changed from version to version, but if your source roms are too far removed from the set you are trying to build, you may never get a working game from what you have.
I know you don't want to download games you aren't interested in playing, but seriously, the best way to get a specific game working and to know you have the right version is to find and download a complete set. At least you will know what you have (assuming the person who created the set knew what they were doing).
I think you were on the right track with building a non merged set, but let's face it--if you don't have a complete set to begin with, so it's uncertain whether you can build a successful rom in the required version with what you have.
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I'm not opposed to downloading the full set, I just can't find it, and it's forbidden to actually provide me with that one useful key piece of information. I've googled high and low for a full set, and have come up empty handed.
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having problems with clrmamepro not providing working roms.
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@Gators it's less about clrmamepro not providing something and more about the source roms you are using. That utility is far more useful when you have a complete, modern romset, you have all of that set's corresponding rollback sets (to fill in every single piece of every rom for every previous version) and a dat file that details what you are trying to build from it. If you only start out with six individual roms from who knows where and no clarity on what version they were to begin with, the utility won't help much. It's also easier to roll back than to roll forward. As MAME evolves, often new capabilities require additional files in the zip files. These don't come from clrmamepro, they come from scans of the original motherboard chips. That's why you might not have what you need to build a certain version of one game, but you might have enough to build several child roms of another game.
Keep searching for a complete set. We've all been there. If it was easy everyone would do it.
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I ran it on a full set. I was pointed to a full mame4all set called MAME 0.37b5 Non-Merged.
For the sake of troubleshooting, I ran it as instructed here, step by step with the video guide, on the full set.
I then copied that entire collection onto my pie.
The games I want to play, including Donkey Kong, still do not work.
No one is providing a solution here, and following the instructions I was pointed to results in roms that do not work.
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I may have found the .78 full set, grabbing the full thing now to store someplace to have available to pick and choose things from.
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@Gators think about it. You tried to build a .78 set from a .37b5. It's like you are trying to create a more recent set from the past. What if they added an additional scanned chip from donkey kong to the dkong.zip because newer MAME can emulate something better than older MAME? You won't get that component of the dkong ROM using clrmamepro. That's why it isn't working. It doesn't create data out of nothing. It merely combines parts. In order to ensure success with the he utility, you go backwards, not forward in versions, and you need the full set and the rollback sets. Now, can you sometimes roll forward? Sure, if the files needed for a given ROM can be found in another ROM (many motherboards shared similar hardware designs). But if a component of a ROM hasn't been scanned in the full set you are using, you are stuck. Some will work, others will be incomplete. Get it?
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I get it, but the fact still remains that the program is supposed to create something that works given the circumstances, or not give you it, instead of just giving you a broken set. What's the point of the tool if it doesn't actually do what it's supposed to do? If it scanned the set, and gave me a collection that didn't include a Donkey Kong rom, sure, I'd still be out a Donkey Kong rom and still searching for something, but at least it didn't give me a broken rom.
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@Gators agreed. Take that up with the clrmamepro devs. No sense making a stink about it here.
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@caver01 also, it might be able to give you a "working" child rom that is dependent on a parent that is broken. Technically, the child might be correct, but if the parent is missing, it won't do much good.
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@Gators Ok, I'm new to this too but I am using Mame4All and I have the 0.37 Rom Set like you. It works with high levels of performance and no sound issues. Those issues normally appear for me with the more demanding versions of MAME. If you do indeed have that Rom set, Donkey Kong will work. So will Crazy Kong - try that one. Both can be tried alone. First, have you checked your PSU? It has to be able to deliver 2.5A. If not, your sound will hiss and pop, bad things will happen. Remember, things plugged into USB ports require current too. Next, are your Roms in the correct place? Are you using WINSCP or something similar to transfer them to the Pi? So /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-mame4all should contain dkong.zip but not some random dkong.zip but the exact dkong.zip from 0.37b. Now in that folder, you must make a folder called samples and put them in it. If you do these few steps and launch Mame4All, Donkey Kong works. Now I can tell you that there are issues with samples for jump and walk in Donkey Kong for this set which is why I said try Crazy Kong. Either way, they both play very well indeed. Newer samples can be found around the web to try. If you have done all this and the Rom doesn't launch, does it just stay black or is there a missing Rom error? The Rom has to be the wrong version if this happens. Can you get other Roms to launch from that folder?
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@Gators
Not sure what search engine you are using but if I use google for rom set 0.78 I can find a link in about 1 second.I have 37b5 rom set for Mame and all the games I have tried so far have worked straight from the zip file including frogger without any sound issues. Not tried donkey kong as yet.
Cheers
Paul
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