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    Sound quality in mame not good

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    • FloobF
      Floob
      last edited by Floob

      Thats a mame convention that makes sense. As you are new to MAME, you may find this explanation(s) of why different versions exist helpful:
      https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/3gh78n/probably_a_silly_question_but_why_are_rom_packs/

      Please read the Docs before asking a new question.
      RetroPie Help Guides: https://goo.gl/3gcNsT

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      • G
        Gators Banned
        last edited by

        Ok, I use this stupid clrwhatever program, and now I have more rom files that still don't work. Thanks.....

        Is there a clear way to just get a handful of working roms at all?

        Do you go out of your way to make the most difficult to use products?

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        • dankcushionsD
          dankcushions Global Moderator
          last edited by

          no-one here made mame. these are ancient mame cores that the raspberry pi can JUST about run. don't like it? don't play arcade games on a pi and stop being rude to volunteers who do this for fun.

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          • FloobF
            Floob
            last edited by

            1. No problem
            2. Yes (Wiki)
            3. No. (Also your issue is with mame, please direct odd complaints to their site)

            Can you check the power details I asked above?
            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/1933/sound-quality-in-mame-not-good/25

            Please read the Docs before asking a new question.
            RetroPie Help Guides: https://goo.gl/3gcNsT

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            • BuZzB
              BuZz administrators
              last edited by

              I understand you are frustrated, but relax, take a break, and try and be calm - especially when people are trying to help you.

              To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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              • G
                Gators Banned
                last edited by

                Look, I appreciate the help, but this is really unclear. I've read your documents, and I've run your programs, and I keep getting roms that don't work. I have roms. I have a pi. How do I get said roms to work, if you can't point me to working roms?

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                • G
                  Gators Banned
                  last edited by

                  I don't understand this scanning program, and your documentation on it isn't clear, at all.

                  What does it do?

                  How is it doing that?

                  Why does it create games out of thin air?

                  How do I get working games?

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                  • BuZzB
                    BuZz administrators
                    last edited by

                    it reorganises existing romsets to work with different mame versions. Not from thin air. You need at least one mame rom set to use it - the more the better if you want the chance of rebuilding the exact set.

                    Did you watch the video tutorial ?

                    To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    • G
                      Gators Banned
                      last edited by

                      But it doesn't do what I want it to do, it makes more games than I feed it, and when I copy the ones I want they don't work.

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                      • G
                        Gators Banned
                        last edited by

                        I used the program, I ran the rebuilder, I used the dat file, and I have roms that don't work.

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                        • G
                          Gators Banned
                          last edited by

                          I've watched your video, I've read your things, I"ve gone over all of this.

                          My source folder of roms has 6 files.

                          The rebuilt folder ends up with 105!

                          Nearly 100 files appear out of nowhere that I do not want!

                          And the 6 games I do want to play, don't work!

                          Something is wrong, I do not know what, and I require assistance with this.

                          From what is being explained, I think non-merged is what I want, so that the individual files I want will stand on their own. But I've tried every setting, and my roms DO NOT WORK!

                          Also, I've looked high and low and cannot found the mentioned zip file that was referenced earlier, which apparently it is forbidden to give me the one key piece of information that would solve all of these problems so I don't have to jump through hoops and run programs that don't actually do what they're supposed to do even when I follow the written and video instructions carefully.

                          I appreciate your help, but please understand, I am frustrated and feel like my time has been wasted on what should be much simpler.

                          How can I get this to work? Please, how can I get this to work?

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                          • G
                            Gators Banned
                            last edited by

                            Why can no one answer my simple questions?

                            I've pointed out several times now that I've followed your instructions and I get games out of nowhere, which no one has explained, and that the files it creates do not work.

                            I've done what you've asked of me, and it doesn't work.

                            What now?

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                            • caver01C
                              caver01 @Gators
                              last edited by caver01

                              @Gators I have had mixed luck using CLRMAMEPRO in the past, so I understand what you are going through. Obviously, some of your ROMS are not correct. Some can still work if the zip files haven't changed from version to version, but if your source roms are too far removed from the set you are trying to build, you may never get a working game from what you have.

                              I know you don't want to download games you aren't interested in playing, but seriously, the best way to get a specific game working and to know you have the right version is to find and download a complete set. At least you will know what you have (assuming the person who created the set knew what they were doing).

                              I think you were on the right track with building a non merged set, but let's face it--if you don't have a complete set to begin with, so it's uncertain whether you can build a successful rom in the required version with what you have.

                              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                              • G
                                Gators Banned
                                last edited by

                                I'm not opposed to downloading the full set, I just can't find it, and it's forbidden to actually provide me with that one useful key piece of information. I've googled high and low for a full set, and have come up empty handed.

                                I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having problems with clrmamepro not providing working roms.

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                                • caver01C
                                  caver01 @Gators
                                  last edited by caver01

                                  @Gators it's less about clrmamepro not providing something and more about the source roms you are using. That utility is far more useful when you have a complete, modern romset, you have all of that set's corresponding rollback sets (to fill in every single piece of every rom for every previous version) and a dat file that details what you are trying to build from it. If you only start out with six individual roms from who knows where and no clarity on what version they were to begin with, the utility won't help much. It's also easier to roll back than to roll forward. As MAME evolves, often new capabilities require additional files in the zip files. These don't come from clrmamepro, they come from scans of the original motherboard chips. That's why you might not have what you need to build a certain version of one game, but you might have enough to build several child roms of another game.

                                  Keep searching for a complete set. We've all been there. If it was easy everyone would do it.

                                  My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                  • G
                                    Gators Banned
                                    last edited by

                                    I ran it on a full set. I was pointed to a full mame4all set called MAME 0.37b5 Non-Merged.

                                    For the sake of troubleshooting, I ran it as instructed here, step by step with the video guide, on the full set.

                                    I then copied that entire collection onto my pie.

                                    The games I want to play, including Donkey Kong, still do not work.

                                    No one is providing a solution here, and following the instructions I was pointed to results in roms that do not work.

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                                    • G
                                      Gators Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      I may have found the .78 full set, grabbing the full thing now to store someplace to have available to pick and choose things from.

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                                      • caver01C
                                        caver01 @Gators
                                        last edited by caver01

                                        @Gators think about it. You tried to build a .78 set from a .37b5. It's like you are trying to create a more recent set from the past. What if they added an additional scanned chip from donkey kong to the dkong.zip because newer MAME can emulate something better than older MAME? You won't get that component of the dkong ROM using clrmamepro. That's why it isn't working. It doesn't create data out of nothing. It merely combines parts. In order to ensure success with the he utility, you go backwards, not forward in versions, and you need the full set and the rollback sets. Now, can you sometimes roll forward? Sure, if the files needed for a given ROM can be found in another ROM (many motherboards shared similar hardware designs). But if a component of a ROM hasn't been scanned in the full set you are using, you are stuck. Some will work, others will be incomplete. Get it?

                                        My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                        • G
                                          Gators Banned
                                          last edited by

                                          I get it, but the fact still remains that the program is supposed to create something that works given the circumstances, or not give you it, instead of just giving you a broken set. What's the point of the tool if it doesn't actually do what it's supposed to do? If it scanned the set, and gave me a collection that didn't include a Donkey Kong rom, sure, I'd still be out a Donkey Kong rom and still searching for something, but at least it didn't give me a broken rom.

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                                          • caver01C
                                            caver01 @Gators
                                            last edited by

                                            @Gators agreed. Take that up with the clrmamepro devs. No sense making a stink about it here.

                                            My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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