Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo

sirhenrythe5th

OK, no more issues :D

Yesterday i updated to 4.4.13 and within this update FBAlpha has been upgraded to FBNeo.
Took quite a long time, but was worth it indeed.
No more sound-issues with RaidenDX and i am really impressed about the Performance update.
NeoGeo in special is awesome now!!!

Maybe one thing should be mentioned: after the update you have to copy everything from "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fba" to "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fbneo" to keep all the highscores and BIOS-Setups of NEOGEO.

Thanks a lot, great job!

BuZz

@sirhenrythe5th you may have installed it before I had the new binaries built. Should be able to install without building now on RPI.

Regarding folders. yeah, sorry - some changed. Also core options will need to be adjusted if you customised them before as old settings are not renamed.

sirhenrythe5th

@BuZz well, in RGUI there was 0.2.97.44. displayed indeed.
But i had no update of FBA in the near past that took so Long (about 40 min.) and what i had as result...no, that is really a difference experience with "FBANeo".
As mentioned i.e. NEOGEO is soooo awesome now!
I did not realize that it did run with a small handbrake before, love to test every single game with this enhanced engine.

Yep, i had to remap my buttons again too, you are right.
The core-overrides wird gone too.

Great update! , much appreciated!!!

hermit

sorry if I insist, but now the core is for version 0.2.97.44 or 0.2.97.43? thank you

mitu

@hermit The current labeled version is 0.2.97.44.

EDIT: as the first post in the topic mentions, it's still not officially released, still a WIP.

sirhenrythe5th

Anyone else has recognized issues with IGS "Demon Front" since the update to FBNeo?
I wanted to test it yesterday, but it ends in a black screen after the character selection.

It doesn not really matter, the update is great anyhow!

mitu

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

Anyone else has recognized issues with IGS "Demon Front" since the update to FBNeo?

I think there was a recent an issue in the Issue tracker about it - https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo/issues/30 -, but it seems it has been solved. Try updating from source and starting again the game.

sirhenrythe5th

Of course you were right mitu, as always :)
Gosh, also this game runs very fine now! thumbsup

Thanks again, your help is much aprecciated!

barbudreadmon

I updated the first post and title

omen_peter

Hi all.

Setup details in my signature. Happy to move this to the help section if it suits better.

I was just after some clarification. I currently use the .43 fba and neogeo romset (I have them as separate systems on my pi) and use lr-fbalpha as my default emulator. From reading this thread I understand that if I was to update my RetroPie setup script today my lr-fbalpha would be updated to lr-fbneo (automatically? Or do I need to then update the lr-fbaplha emulator?).

So let's assume I now have lr-fbneo. How does this emulator treat my .43 romset? As in, will the games that worked before still work? Will some now not work? Will none of them work at all??

I see from above comments that not updating lr-fbneo is an option (although not recommended), but you wouldn't believe how long it took me to get around to sorting out my current fba/neogeo setup, and just would like to know how updating will affect my setup (and maybe others in the same situation) and if I will make more work for myself by updating.

Thanks for reading!

P.S. The thread also mentions MAME. I use the .78 romset with lr-mame2003. I assume this change doesn't affect that too?

barbudreadmon

@omen_peter said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

if I was to update my RetroPie setup script today my lr-fbalpha would be updated to lr-fbneo (automatically? Or do I need to then update the lr-fbaplha emulator?).

I think you need to update your retropie setup script, then install lr-fbneo, afaik this install migrates your old lr-fbalpha settings (i'm not a retropie user, so i can't confirm).

@omen_peter said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

So let's assume I now have lr-fbneo. How does this emulator treat my .43 romset?

old romsets which contains files that got renamed (sometime MAME rename files to respect some terminology) would still work, they would just output a warning at boot => clrmamepro fixes that without having to get new stuff
old romsets that got renamed would stop working => clrmamepro fixes that without having to get new stuff
new supported romsets would be missing => obviously you'll need to get them somewhere
old romsets containing new files with new crcs (new dumps) will generally stop working => obviously you'll need to get them somewhere, keep in mind we are maybe talking about 20 romsets over the course of 1 year and a half, and probably not common/popular games like neogeo's, cps's, pgm's, ... those have been properly dumped for years.

BuZz

Yeah will need to update the script and emulator or do a full update. When updating the script, it will show fbneo as installed instead of fbalpha. But it won't work till you update as core name etc is changed.

(Writing this from a campsite without a pc, but should be correct).

omen_peter

Thanks @barbudreadmon and @BuZz! Very useful info and good to know what may happen when I update.

I think I'll keep my .43 set for now and if I notice large scale issues with games not working I'll 'bite the bullet' and update my romset. I would like to keep everything as up-to-date as possible so chances are I'll update at some point.

Thanks again.

shavecat

Hey
how do i instaal Fbneo ?
and do i need some system or bios adding ?
Is it better then the lr-mame2003-plus ?
thanks .

barbudreadmon

@shavecat said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Is it better then the lr-mame2003-plus ?

That's 2 different emulators with support for different games (even if they have a lot in common), i would say they are complementary. If you are looking for accuracy, savestates support, funky features using those savestates (netplay, readahead, rewind), and maybe other funky features like RetroAchievements, FBNeo/FBAlpha is usually the recommended emulator over old mame cores when usable (i.e when the game is supported, has no known issues, and your device is able to handle it). Furthermore, reported issues are generally fixed quickly.

@shavecat said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

how do i instaal Fbneo ?

That kind of question when the answer is 2 posts above is seriously depressing.

SergioPoverony

@barbudreadmon hello. thank you for great work. now i see trouble in RaspberryPi 3A+
i upgrade RetroPie and see Fbneo - him work on Zero and B3+ - and cant work Pi 3A+
Need help for play my loved games )

mitu

@SergioPoverony Please open a new topic and provide the info requested in https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first. A log file (/dev/shm/runcommand.log) would be useful.

SergioPoverony

@mitu said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

Please open a new....

ok. thank you

pi2user

Where do I get a clrmamepro dat for the version of fbneo installed by retropie?
I see in the first post that there is a link to the very latest versions of fbneo dats on github, but assume these will be for the very latest fbneo code on github.
Retropie fbneo compiled binaries are likely is a bit behind (understandably). Where are the dats for the binary release of fbneo which is installed by retropie?
Thanks.

barbudreadmon

@pi2user open RA menu, copy commit in the bottom-left corner, replace it in the following url : https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo/tree/<copied_commit>/dats

However, keep in mind that using binaries instead of sources is a bad idea :

there is absolutely no guarantee that the binary version isn't plagued by a major bug, since they are done with arbitrary commits and without consulting me first, you won't get support though.
you won't benefit from improvements, fixes and new stuff added daily.