Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn

AdamBeGood · 20 Feb 2021, 15:08

@shavecat said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

@zering
OKAY ITS WORKING !!!
thanks a lot !!
but its really slow like ASTAL...
and sometimes i just getting a black screen with the mouse on the side:\

How did you resolve it? I just get no options.

@Zering Mine are all bin/cues, I did wonder about CHDs. Maybe I will try that.

shavecat · 20 Feb 2021, 15:10

@adambegood

yabasanshiro = "/opt/retropie/emulators/yabause/yabasanshiro -i %ROM%"

thats it ;)
i only got chd working ,
not all of them .
but i also getting the cd open and closed (so i can see a list of games now)

shavecat · 20 Feb 2021, 16:04

@notthesame
Hey
what im doing Wrong plz ?
Clock work knight 1
stuck on black screen ..
Clock work knight 2 works fine :)

AdamBeGood · 21 Feb 2021, 12:37

@shavecat said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

@adambegood
yabasanshiro = "/opt/retropie/emulators/yabause/yabasanshiro -i %ROM%"
thats it ;)
i only got chd working ,
not all of them .
but i also getting the cd open and closed (so i can see a list of games now)

Amazing stuff, that works great for me now! Thanks very much, @barbudreadmon , @Zering and @shavecat

On ClockWork Knight 1, Shavecat, I don't have that game but have you tried the standard emulators lr-beetle-saturn and lr-yabause just in case those work?

I don't have much else to offer on that though.

Performance seems certainly better than the libretro core, although my Sega Rally is still too choppy to play.

bin/cues work fine.

Zering · 21 Feb 2021, 13:06

@adambegood Performance is much better overall, sadly I'm still experiencing crippling graphical issues on many games.
Still I managed to beat Panzer Dragoon for the first time this week ; I've been playing this game since I was 9. Great stuff. And it looks like the other two will run fine.
Most of the 2d stuff seems to run pretty good too. Radiant Silvergun runs well but has some bad graphical glitches.

AdamBeGood · 21 Feb 2021, 14:22

@zering said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

@adambegood Performance is much better overall, sadly I'm still experiencing crippling graphical issues on many games.
Still I managed to beat Panzer Dragoon for the first time this week ; I've been playing this game since I was 9. Great stuff. And it looks like the other two will run fine.
Most of the 2d stuff seems to run pretty good too. Radiant Silvergun runs well but has some bad graphical glitches.

Oooo does Panzer Dragoon 1 run okay? I always left that one alone as I heard it ran poorly. I need to play Zwei, I have that.

At least it is another option for Saturn emulation anyway, we are getting towards a lot of games being playable.

shavecat · 21 Feb 2021, 14:36

@adambegood
Yes i did try ,
still not working...

Zering · 21 Feb 2021, 14:52

@adambegood Panzer Dragoon has some graphical glitches (some textures missing) but nothing that bothered me too much. Sometimes the sound cuts out and never comes back, save and load state in and out.
Zwei runs fine, Saga looks fine too but I wouldn't be surprised if some game breaking bug crept up halfway through.
Some troublesome games are getting close to playable. Nights peaked at 50 fps on my rig.
I spotted a bunch of heavy hitters that appear to run well : Shining the Holy Ark, Shining Force 3, Shinobi X, Batsugun, Street Fighter Zero 3...

barbudreadmon · 21 Feb 2021, 16:41

@zering said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

Batsugun, Street Fighter Zero 3

I really recommend avoiding those 2, since you'll get far superior emulation with arcade versions. I know a few people like console ports of fighting games because of the training mode, but that's not even a problem for sfa3 which has a "training edition" clone (the romset is called sfz3te)

Zering · 21 Feb 2021, 16:52

@barbudreadmon Yeah I'm aware of that, I don't know why I named Street Fighter as I'm not even keen on the series. But Batsugun runs well enough that I enjoy playing it occasionally, and I am one of those weirdos who enjoys console ports of arcade games.

shavecat · 21 Feb 2021, 20:36

Having some sounds issues .
no sound at the games for some reason sometimes ....

Darksavior · 21 Feb 2021, 20:59

@barbudreadmon The saturn, ps1, and dc versions of sfz3 have more characters than the arcade version. Psp version has more but I don't care for those. The saturn version is the only one with full frames of animation AND works with the crt-pi shader.

barbudreadmon · 21 Feb 2021, 21:43

@darksavior ok for the additional characters (not sure i would trade them for the additional input lag though), but isn't the ps1 version still far superior on pi4 since it won't suffer from frameskipping ? Correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've seen on videos with those invisible fireballs, those street fighter alpha looked closer to 30 fps than 60 fps using the libretro core, what's the situation with standalone ? I doubt there would be no frameskip at all ?

Darksavior · 21 Feb 2021, 22:52

@barbudreadmon For the pi4 it's not worth using the saturn version and I'd recommend the ps1 version if you want the extra characters and a crt scaler will scale well with it. With the libretro yabasanshiro I get around 50fps average without frameskip on my oc'd pi4. I don't use the standalone. If I can't use a crt shader then I'd rather not use it at all.

retropieuser555 · 13 Mar 2021, 21:56

I think before a few people had mentioned the Saturn Bomberman game. I got the PAL/Europe version working really nicely with lr-yabasanshiro and it plays like a dream.

One silly question, has anyone been mad enough to see if the 10 player works on the core?! Don't think I even have 10 gamepads to test with but I'm curious if the option is possible.

AlphaBetaPie · 20 Mar 2021, 22:45

Hi folks, avid Saturn fan here that was directed here from another section. Was super excited to hear that a new emulator was on the scene that upped the performance of many Saturn titles. Unfortunately, I'm having the same install issue that many have been having. I read back through the last several weeks of replies, but I'm not seeing a definitive answer as to how to fix the "failed to apply" issue. Or was there some other work around were supposed to use? For reference, I'm running the latest image of Retropie and the install pack Quicksilver posted originally that lets me install from the experimental packages menu (dated June 2020 on mega.nz). Here is where I'm stuck (as others have been as well):

quicksilver · 20 Mar 2021, 22:58

@alphabetapie it's very likely that my post is outdated at this point. You'll to use a newer version of the install script.

AlphaBetaPie · 20 Mar 2021, 23:09

@quicksilver said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

@alphabetapie it's very likely that my post is outdated at this point. You'll to use a newer version of the install script.

Thanks for the reply. I did try to find that in the previous posts, but I'm not seeing an updated installer. Did I miss something?

Darksavior · 21 Mar 2021, 01:46

@alphabetapie This is the only place you should get it from: https://github.com/joolswills/RetroPie-Setup/tree/lr-yabasanshiro

AlphaBetaPie · 21 Mar 2021, 14:07

@darksavior - UPDATE - Thanks for the info. After some poking around, I was able to fish out the files I needed from that link and add those over to my experimental packages and install it. Can't wait to try this out!