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      Zering @AdamBeGood
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      @adambegood Performance is much better overall, sadly I'm still experiencing crippling graphical issues on many games.
      Still I managed to beat Panzer Dragoon for the first time this week ; I've been playing this game since I was 9. Great stuff. And it looks like the other two will run fine.
      Most of the 2d stuff seems to run pretty good too. Radiant Silvergun runs well but has some bad graphical glitches.

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        AdamBeGood @Zering
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        @zering said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

        @adambegood Performance is much better overall, sadly I'm still experiencing crippling graphical issues on many games.
        Still I managed to beat Panzer Dragoon for the first time this week ; I've been playing this game since I was 9. Great stuff. And it looks like the other two will run fine.
        Most of the 2d stuff seems to run pretty good too. Radiant Silvergun runs well but has some bad graphical glitches.

        Oooo does Panzer Dragoon 1 run okay? I always left that one alone as I heard it ran poorly. I need to play Zwei, I have that.

        At least it is another option for Saturn emulation anyway, we are getting towards a lot of games being playable.

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          shavecat @AdamBeGood
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          @adambegood
          Yes i did try ,
          still not working...

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            Zering @AdamBeGood
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            @adambegood Panzer Dragoon has some graphical glitches (some textures missing) but nothing that bothered me too much. Sometimes the sound cuts out and never comes back, save and load state in and out.
            Zwei runs fine, Saga looks fine too but I wouldn't be surprised if some game breaking bug crept up halfway through.
            Some troublesome games are getting close to playable. Nights peaked at 50 fps on my rig.
            I spotted a bunch of heavy hitters that appear to run well : Shining the Holy Ark, Shining Force 3, Shinobi X, Batsugun, Street Fighter Zero 3...

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              barbudreadmon @Zering
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              @zering said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

              Batsugun, Street Fighter Zero 3

              I really recommend avoiding those 2, since you'll get far superior emulation with arcade versions. I know a few people like console ports of fighting games because of the training mode, but that's not even a problem for sfa3 which has a "training edition" clone (the romset is called sfz3te)

              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                Zering @barbudreadmon
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                @barbudreadmon Yeah I'm aware of that, I don't know why I named Street Fighter as I'm not even keen on the series. But Batsugun runs well enough that I enjoy playing it occasionally, and I am one of those weirdos who enjoys console ports of arcade games.

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                  shavecat @Zering
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                  Having some sounds issues .
                  no sound at the games for some reason sometimes ....

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                    Darksavior @barbudreadmon
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                    @barbudreadmon The saturn, ps1, and dc versions of sfz3 have more characters than the arcade version. Psp version has more but I don't care for those. The saturn version is the only one with full frames of animation AND works with the crt-pi shader.

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                      barbudreadmon @Darksavior
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                      @darksavior ok for the additional characters (not sure i would trade them for the additional input lag though), but isn't the ps1 version still far superior on pi4 since it won't suffer from frameskipping ? Correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've seen on videos with those invisible fireballs, those street fighter alpha looked closer to 30 fps than 60 fps using the libretro core, what's the situation with standalone ? I doubt there would be no frameskip at all ?

                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                        Darksavior @barbudreadmon
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                        @barbudreadmon For the pi4 it's not worth using the saturn version and I'd recommend the ps1 version if you want the extra characters and a crt scaler will scale well with it. With the libretro yabasanshiro I get around 50fps average without frameskip on my oc'd pi4. I don't use the standalone. If I can't use a crt shader then I'd rather not use it at all.

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                          retropieuser555 @Darksavior
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                          I think before a few people had mentioned the Saturn Bomberman game. I got the PAL/Europe version working really nicely with lr-yabasanshiro and it plays like a dream.

                          One silly question, has anyone been mad enough to see if the 10 player works on the core?! Don't think I even have 10 gamepads to test with but I'm curious if the option is possible.

                          Pi 5 4GB

                          Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                          Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                            AlphaBetaPie @retropieuser555
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                            Hi folks, avid Saturn fan here that was directed here from another section. Was super excited to hear that a new emulator was on the scene that upped the performance of many Saturn titles. Unfortunately, I'm having the same install issue that many have been having. I read back through the last several weeks of replies, but I'm not seeing a definitive answer as to how to fix the "failed to apply" issue. Or was there some other work around were supposed to use? For reference, I'm running the latest image of Retropie and the install pack Quicksilver posted originally that lets me install from the experimental packages menu (dated June 2020 on mega.nz). Here is where I'm stuck (as others have been as well):

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                              quicksilver @AlphaBetaPie
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                              @alphabetapie it's very likely that my post is outdated at this point. You'll to use a newer version of the install script.

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                                AlphaBetaPie @quicksilver
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                                @quicksilver said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                @alphabetapie it's very likely that my post is outdated at this point. You'll to use a newer version of the install script.

                                Thanks for the reply. I did try to find that in the previous posts, but I'm not seeing an updated installer. Did I miss something?

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                                  Darksavior @AlphaBetaPie
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                                  @alphabetapie This is the only place you should get it from: https://github.com/joolswills/RetroPie-Setup/tree/lr-yabasanshiro

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                                    AlphaBetaPie @Darksavior
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                                    @darksavior - UPDATE - Thanks for the info. After some poking around, I was able to fish out the files I needed from that link and add those over to my experimental packages and install it. Can't wait to try this out!

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                                      AlphaBetaPie @AlphaBetaPie
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                                      After some testing, I just want to say that I LOVE THIS FREAKIN' EMULATOR! By far the most progress I've seen to-date on getting Saturn to run on a pie. I can't wait to see where this goes in the future.

                                      Just one small complaint/request. Is there ever going to be a disc control option implemented? Without that, I don't know how to load my double-disc Saturn games with this already great emulator. Or is there another way I'm unaware of?

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                                        Zering @AlphaBetaPie
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                                        @alphabetapie Like I said - try the standalone version of yabasanshiro.

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                                          barbudreadmon @AlphaBetaPie
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                                          @alphabetapie said in Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB and the Sega Saturn:

                                          I can't wait to see where this goes in the future.

                                          That core is crap and pretty much unmaintained now, don't use it.
                                          There are instructions on setting up standalone above, starting from around https://retropie.org.uk/forum/post/251721

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                            AlphaBetaPie @barbudreadmon
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                                            Sure, I'm game. I just tried that, simply because it was easy to install and I don't have as much experience setting up a stand-alone from scratch. But I'll try and see if I can figure it out.

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