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    • DTEAMD
      DTEAM @zerojay
      last edited by DTEAM

      @zerojay
      In the jaguar.xml file , they identify sounds issues, black screens, gfx issue and more per video games for Lr-Mess.
      Both of those emulators are less than perfect. A lot of issues with those two.
      We have to test games and get the best emulator for each one of those.

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        zerojay @ecto
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        @ecto said in Calling Pi 4 Atari Jaguar Fans:

        @zerojay I tried to install your scriptmodule, but it seems "run_mess.sh" script can't be found. It's supposed to be in ~/Retropie-Setup/scriptmodules/ but it's not...

        See above.

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        • George SpiggottG
          George Spiggott @DTEAM
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          @DTEAM Are either of them currently supported?

          Currently running:
          Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
          ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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          • DTEAMD
            DTEAM @George Spiggott
            last edited by DTEAM

            @George-Spiggott
            I don't know for lr-virtualjaguar

            In whatsnew_0225.txt (2020-09-30) (MAME) Fresh from today
            https://www.mamedev.org/releases/whatsnew_0225.txt

            We can read:
            -jaguar.cpp: Document alternate ROM labels for Maximum Force v1.02 [Brian Troha]

            Arcade game supported by jaguar.cpp, nothing big

            Maybe somebody work on that

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              zerojay
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              The VirtualJaguar developer basically quit right after someone from libretro was basically harassing him to try to get a core made and he wasn't interested in doing anything but working on his emulator. They basically made the core themselves in spite of him and the emulator didn't really get updated again after that.

              I don't think anyone in particular is working on Jaguar support in MAME at the moment (beyond documentation).

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              • DTEAMD
                DTEAM
                last edited by DTEAM

                Does anyone heard or tested the emulator: Project Tempest

                http://pt.emuunlim.com/

                It's seems to be an old emulator

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                  zerojay @DTEAM
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                  @DTEAM said in Calling Pi 4 Atari Jaguar Fans:

                  Does anyone heard or tested the emulator: Project Tempest

                  http://pt.emuunlim.com/

                  It's seems to be an old emulator

                  It's a super old Windows only emulator that is only worth using for a handful of games, Tempest 2000 among them.

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                  • DTEAMD
                    DTEAM
                    last edited by DTEAM

                    The last one seems to be a russian emulator

                    Phoenix Project

                    http://www.arts-union.ru/node/23

                    https://emulation.fandom.com/wiki/Atari_Jaguar_emulators

                    Video

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                      zerojay @DTEAM
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                      @DTEAM Yes, Phoenix is closed-source however.

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                        AdamBeGood @ecto
                        last edited by AdamBeGood

                        @ecto said in Calling Pi 4 Atari Jaguar Fans:

                        @zerojay I tried to install your scriptmodule, but it seems "run_mess.sh" script can't be found. It's supposed to be in ~/Retropie-Setup/scriptmodules/ but it's not...

                        I reinstalled lr-mess from Source and that seemed to fix this error. I then encountered other errors that I haven't got past yet, but I am further on from where you are at least..

                        Edit: I've just realised that I did the below before I installed the emulator in case this version of lr-mess was different in any way. This was on the back of this thread: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/25576/new-scriptmodules-lr-vice-xvic-gsplus-proper-lr-mess-integration?_=1601438647362

                        cd ~
                        mv RetroPie-Setup RetroPie-Setup-backup
                        git clone https://github.com/valerino/RetroPie-Setup.git
                        cd RetroPie-Setup
                        sudo ./retropie_setup.sh
                        

                        I don't know if it made a difference but I'll mention it anyway.

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                        • DTEAMD
                          DTEAM @AdamBeGood
                          last edited by DTEAM

                          @AdamBeGood
                          I think You must did that on a fresh build
                          When I did that, It changed my config folder and I lost the capability to load my stuff.
                          You must do a real backup of your SD Card if you run those lines.

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                            zerojay
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                            I would highly suggest not running retropie setup from that repo as they may have other changes/be out of date/etc... and you are risking breaking your stuff.

                            Just cherry-pick the scriptmodules that you need from that repo and put them into your standard RetroPie-Setup.

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                            • DTEAMD
                              DTEAM @zerojay
                              last edited by DTEAM

                              @zerojay
                              Correct me If I'm wrong, but If you get packages from Valerino and not from Retropie or from source. You are not able to update Those after installation. Is It right? Why I'm saying that, is because you can run CD-I with those line, but with the recent MAME update, CD-I is down.

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                                zerojay @DTEAM
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                                @DTEAM said in Calling Pi 4 Atari Jaguar Fans:

                                @zerojay
                                Correct me If I'm wrong, but If you get packages from Valerino and not from Retropie or from source. You are not able to update Those after installation. Is It right? Why I'm saying that, is because you can run CD-I with those line, but with the recent MAME update, CD-I is down.

                                These scripts aren't packages. They are merely instructions that retropie follows to build/install this stuff. If you want to update, just build it again. I don't know what "cd-i is down" means.

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                                • DTEAMD
                                  DTEAM @zerojay
                                  last edited by

                                  @zerojay
                                  That's true, It's only configuration and the real update are with Lr-Mess. Sorry for this confusion.

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                                  • DTEAMD
                                    DTEAM @zerojay
                                    last edited by

                                    @zerojay said in Calling Pi 4 Atari Jaguar Fans:

                                    @DTEAM Considering there isn't a whole ton of games in the Jaguar library, it would be really awesome if you would consider doing the same thing for the rest of the games too.

                                    I'll do It periodically. Just watch the list, I'll add new games everyday or every week.

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                                    • DTEAMD
                                      DTEAM
                                      last edited by DTEAM

                                      In the Retroarch menu of Lr-virtualjaguar, some games are fasters with Quick Menu/Options/ Fast Blitter = on (like Fight for life (Europe), I recommend to use It most of the time. Test It when you play. Sometimes there's no difference but other times, It's a necessity. Gain of 5 to 8 FPS for games like Fight for life (Europe) or Atari Kart. Sometimes It's nothing (no gain) like Attack of the mutant penguins. Sometimes negatives effects (grafx) like Breakout 2000.

                                      The most spectacular gain is with Checkered Flag. 26.9 FPS to 45-48FPS with Fast Blitter = on . The game went from almost not playable to fun to play !!!
                                      I think It has a great effect on 3D games.

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                                        AdamBeGood @DTEAM
                                        last edited by AdamBeGood

                                        @DTEAM I seem to remember Fast Blitter making a bit of difference with AvP when I tested.

                                        Edit: Does anyone know what "Fast Blitter" actually is?

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                                          Zering
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                                          I can confirm.

                                          Fast blitter makes AvP playable for me. Without it, it's a slideshow. On an overlocked Pi it runs smooth enough to play, but even on a stock one fast blitter boosts the framerate significantly. I want to say by at least 75% although I can't actually be sure.
                                          Rayman ran a touch slow on my overlocked RPi, but it's playable.
                                          Wolfenstein 3D booted and gave me a horrible screeching sound, I did not dare go any further.
                                          Tempest 2000 was too slow to be playable, even on an overlocked rig.

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                                          • George SpiggottG
                                            George Spiggott
                                            last edited by George Spiggott

                                            I run everything with Fast Blitter on unless it breaks the game. Wolfenstein won't play with it on.

                                            Currently running:
                                            Retropie 4.8.9 on a Pi Zero 2W (Overclock Settings: CPU 1400Mhz)
                                            ES-DE on a GMKtec K6 (Windows 11, 32GB RAM)

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