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      dmmarti @SuperFromND
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      @Folly

      I tested this with the lr-mess scripts and got a rom to load. It uses the "pmd851" machine name with the "-cass" option.

      I was able to load the game and get to the main screen. Best I can figure out is the following:

      SHIFT + BACKSPACE = resets the computer
      SHIFT + PAGE DOWN = gets into "monitor" mode

      You need to go into "monitor" mode in order to run the games. Looking at the MAME hash file - there are the commands to type to load the game (like typing MGLD xx where the xx is a number).

      I wonder if you could test this using your new version of the lr-mess script and/or the mame stand alone for it?

      @ladba1975 .... any help you could give as to using this computer would be very appreciative!!

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        Folly @dmmarti
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        @dmmarti

        Interesting, I will have a look.

        In the hash tables there is more information about the games and how to load and if they are "supported".
        Here is the hash file (hash of mame standalone ) :
        /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/hash/pmd85_cass.xml

        I tried about 5 games but I wasn't able to play them.
        manicmin was the first game that was playable, for me.
        It looks like a cone of blagger (Alligata)(msx/c64).

        I was able to load it with these loaders :
        mame-pmd851-basename
        mame-system-pmd851-cass
        lr-mess-system-pmd851-cass

        There was no need to use SHIFT+BACKSPACE, seems it was going directly into monitor mode :

        Schermafbeelding 2022-01-18 om 09.47.47.png

        Typed the command to load :
        Schermafbeelding 2022-01-18 om 09.48.48.png

        Pressed play and tab to exit the tape controll :
        Schermafbeelding 2022-01-18 om 09.49.16.png

        Schermafbeelding 2022-01-18 om 09.49.38.png

        To speed up the loading process press :

        • page-down (mame)
        • space (lr-mess)

        Playing the game :
        Schermafbeelding 2022-01-18 om 09.51.27.png

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          ladba1975 @dmmarti
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          @dmmarti
          Some information about this Czechoslovakian microcomputer:

          Typically, it was used for teaching programming in Basic. It was posssible to have BASIC-G module attached (or even some module with PASCAL), or run it without these modules to use the computer in "machine code" mode.

          Please see video at

          (from minute 2:00) showing how to load a game in BASIC on real PMD-85

          Please see the same video at

          (from minute 7:00) showing how to load a game in machine code (without Basic-G module) on real PMD-85

          Also, there exists perfect emulator of PMD-85 for Windows - at https://pmd85.borik.net/wiki/Emulátor&setlang=en you can download emulator, games, etc.

          See also video at

          showing how to load Manic Miner game in the Windows emulator (running without Basic-G module).

          I am not sure how the Raspberry emulator of PMD-85 looks after its launch. Please try to compare it with screens shown in videos. Does it start in Basic-G mode or with "++ Os ready ++" (machine code mode)?

          LB

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            ladba1975 @Folly
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            @folly This is great! Is it possible to specify some step-by-step guide for "dummies" like me explaining how to have this PMD-85 emulator running on the PI? I am totally novice, having PI from last Friday and using Windows for years, but knowing nothing about PI. I was able to prepare SD card with RetroPie and load games (roms) with USB for ZX Spectrum and MAME. It would be great to have the same easy way with this PMD-85 emulator...

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              Folly @ladba1975
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              @ladba1975

              Here you will find the information on our project with which you can install the pmd851.

              https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-and-mame-standalone.

              I hope it's not too complicated for you.

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                ladba1975 @Folly
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                @folly Thank you for these steps. Please excuse my ignorance, but would it be possible to specify them for this concrete PMD-85 emulator and maybe also add some images - I still do not know where to start... (knowing nothing about module-script generator and lr-mess and mame). I mean to have a cook-book with several images for dummies like me...

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                  Folly @ladba1975
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                  @ladba1975

                  Are you able to go into the cli/terminal environment on your PI ?

                  You probably come into the terminal when you exit emulationstation with F4.

                  If this works, let me know.

                  To properly shut down your computer type :

                  sudo poweroff
                  
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                    ladba1975 @Folly
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                    @folly Yes, after booting PI in RetroPie carousel I pressed F4, and I obtained the terminal screen with blinking cursor. I typed in "poweroff" and it worked as expected...

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                      Folly @ladba1975
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                      @ladba1975

                      The cli (command line interface ) is the ms-dos of linux.
                      Just like ms-dos you can type the command dir, for example.
                      The dir command happens to be in there but normally you use ls.
                      Just try and you will see the similarity.
                      Here you will find some more basics :
                      https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/how-use-linux-command-line-basics-cli/
                      Try to get a bit familiar with the cli.

                      If you are a bit familiar with the cli then you can use these 2 commands.
                      The first will install the program curl, which is needed to download my module-script.
                      (It's possible that curl is already installed, but we do this just to be certain)
                      The second will download my module-script into the correct directory.

                      sudo apt install curl -y
                      curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scriptmodules-00/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems.sh > /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems.sh
                      

                      Now you can start the carousel (emulationstation) again, just type :

                      emulationstation
                      

                      Find the RetroPie-Setup in emulationstation and run it.

                      First update the setup script.
                      (after update it should display same version and a recent commit)
                      rp-setup-update.png

                      Go to :
                      configuration/tools

                      Select:
                      add-mamedev-systems

                      install:
                      mame and lr-mess

                      (next will install pmd851)
                      goto and select :
                      All systems > submenu
                      All (alfabetical) upon systems names
                      P upon systems
                      pmd851

                      Find the pmd851.7z bios file and place it in :
                      /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
                      (you can do this also in the restricted browser part, but you have to fill in the website.org) (you know the well known archive)
                      (or do it later, just like you did with other roms or software)

                      Find the pmd85_cass.zip and extrat the files in :
                      /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851
                      (you can do this also in the restricted browser part, but you have to fill in the website.org) (you know the well known archive)
                      (and later copy the file from /home/pi/RetroPie/downloads/mame-sl to /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851)
                      (or do it later, just like you did with other roms or software)

                      Exit the setup by selecting cancel and back.

                      Now emulationstation should appear again.

                      If the rom and cass files aren't in place you will see nothing.
                      If the are they should appear in emulationstation.

                      Then you you are able to run them.

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                        ladba1975 @Folly
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                        @folly Thank you very much for these steps. I was able to finish setup script update. However, I cannot find the "add-mamedev-system" item in "configuration/tools". Would you please help me?

                        retropie_setup_resized.jpg configuration_tools_resized.jpg

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                          Folly @ladba1975
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                          @ladba1975

                          Goto the cli and do the next command :
                          (here we check if the file is present and what sha1 checksum it has to confirm it's the correct file)

                          sha1sum RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems.sh
                          

                          It should output this :
                          e2a33576c0a548692b10d3f636f9c85594841f04 RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary/add-mamedev-systems.sh

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                            ladba1975 @Folly
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                            @folly Thanks. I have checked it - and there is no such a file on my PI. I am attaching the list of all files in that folder...checking_file.jpg

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                              Folly @ladba1975
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                              @ladba1975

                              Be sure your have an internet connection try to do the curl command again.
                              Then check again if the file exists.

                              You can also download the whole package here https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share
                              (click on code and you can download it)
                              Then just extract it and search the file and copy it to the correct path, like you would when copying roms to your PI.

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                                ladba1975 @Folly
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                                @folly Thank you! It is working! Thank you very much for all your help!manic_miner.jpg

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                                  Folly @ladba1975
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                                  @ladba1975

                                  Nice to hear it working !
                                  Hope many more games will work.
                                  Let us know.

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                                    Folly @ladba1975
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                                    double message removed

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                                      ladba1975 @Folly
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                                      @folly There is very useful information about games/programs for PMD-85 at https://pmd85.borik.net/wiki/Download . For example, I want to play "ZABY" game (Frogger) - the game information is in "Other" section on the web page. I am attaching image. I tried to load it with MGLD 01, but it appeared as "09 ZABY", so I tried itagain with MGLD 09, because "09" is the number which was used for storing this game on the tape. After loading, nothing happens - this game is not "autorun". I had to write command JUMP 1500 to run it, because this address "1500" is specified in column "spustenie" which means "to run" in English... frogger.jpg frogger2.jpg

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                                        Folly @ladba1975
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        @ladba1975

                                        Good info ;-)

                                        I will have a look.

                                        The hash file says :
                                        <software name="zaby" supported="partial"><!-- loads but does nothing -->

                                        Are you able to play ?
                                        I can get the same screen as you do but I can't play.

                                        BTW. I now see that the JUMP commands are also in the hash file.

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                                          Folly @ladba1975
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                                          @ladba1975

                                          I have a working boulderdash from "pmd85emu_games_vbg".

                                          eaf01aa1-a13a-4048-8e29-4c1adec899af-boulderdash.png

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                                            JimmyFromTheBay @Folly
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                                            @Folly OLD THREAD REVIVE!

                                            I'm trying to get this system running, but I'm getting nowhere.

                                            I installed it with your script as usual and the games show up in EmulationStation.

                                            I've got PMD851.ZIP in the BIOS folder, containing PMD85-1.BAS and PMD85-1.BIN.

                                            I've got the gamelist game files in the ROMS folder and I'm trying to run one that works according to this thread - Manic Miner.

                                            But I keep getting dumped straight back to EmulationStation with this log:

                                            Parameters: 
                                            Executing: /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/retroarch.cfg.add'|'/dev/shm/retroarch.cfg -S /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851 -s /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851 -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'pmd851  -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/lr-mess -c -ui_active -cass "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/manicmin.zip"' --verbose
                                            [INFO] RetroArch 1.8.8 (Git 9552f87)
                                            [INFO] Redirecting save file to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/manicmin.srm".
                                            [INFO] Redirecting save state to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/manicmin.state".
                                            [INFO] === Build =======================================
                                            [INFO] Capabilities:  NEON VFPv3 VFPv4
                                            [INFO] Built: Nov  2 2020
                                            [INFO] Version: 1.8.8
                                            [INFO] Git: 9552f87
                                            [INFO] =================================================
                                            [INFO] Loading dynamic libretro core from: "/opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so"
                                            [INFO] [Overrides] core-specific overrides found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/MAME.cfg.
                                            [INFO] [Overrides] no content-dir-specific overrides found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/pmd851.cfg.
                                            [INFO] [Overrides] no game-specific overrides found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/manicmin.cfg.
                                            [INFO] Config: appending config "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/MAME.cfg"
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SET_VARIABLES.
                                            [INFO] Per-Game Options: game-specific core options found at /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/MAME/manicmin.opt
                                            [INFO] [Remaps]: remap directory: /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: GET_LOG_INTERFACE.
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SYSTEM_DIRECTORY: "/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS".
                                            [libretro INFO] SYSTEM_DIRECTORY: /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: CORE_ASSETS_DIRECTORY: "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/downloads".
                                            [libretro INFO] CONTENT_DIRECTORY: /home/pi/.config/retroarch/downloads
                                            [libretro INFO] SAVE_DIRECTORY: pmd851  -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/lr-mess -c -ui_active -cass "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SET_PIXEL_FORMAT: XRGB8888.
                                            [INFO] Content loading skipped. Implementation will load it on its own.
                                            [libretro INFO] Joystick map: disabled
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SET_INPUT_DESCRIPTORS:
                                            [INFO] Skipping SRAM load..
                                            [INFO] Version of libretro API: 1
                                            [INFO] Compiled against API: 1
                                            [libretro INFO] Joystick map: disabled
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SET_INPUT_DESCRIPTORS:
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: width=640 height=480
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: max_width=640 max_height=480
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: aspect_ratio = 1.333333
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: fps = 60.000000 sample_rate = 48000.000000
                                            [INFO] [Cheats]: Load game-specific cheatfile: /home/pi/.config/retroarch/cheats/MAME/manicmin.cht
                                            [INFO] [Audio]: Set audio input rate to: 48000.00 Hz.
                                            [INFO] [Video]: Video @ 1920x1080
                                            [INFO] [Video]: Starting threaded video driver ...
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Found 1 connectors.
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Connector 0 connected: yes
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Connector 0 has 30 modes.
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Connector 0 assigned to monitor index: #1.
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 0: (1920x1080) 1920 x 1080, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 1: (1920x1080) 1920 x 1080, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 2: (1920x1080) 1920 x 1080, 50 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 3: (1680x1050) 1680 x 1050, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 4: (1600x900) 1600 x 900, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 5: (1280x1024) 1280 x 1024, 75 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 6: (1280x1024) 1280 x 1024, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 7: (1440x900) 1440 x 900, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 8: (1280x800) 1280 x 800, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 9: (1152x864) 1152 x 864, 75 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 10: (1280x720) 1280 x 720, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 11: (1280x720) 1280 x 720, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 12: (1280x720) 1280 x 720, 50 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 13: (1024x768) 1024 x 768, 75 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 14: (1024x768) 1024 x 768, 70 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 15: (1024x768) 1024 x 768, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 16: (832x624) 832 x 624, 75 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 17: (800x600) 800 x 600, 75 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 18: (800x600) 800 x 600, 72 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 19: (800x600) 800 x 600, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 20: (800x600) 800 x 600, 56 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 21: (720x576) 720 x 576, 50 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 22: (720x480) 720 x 480, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 23: (720x480) 720 x 480, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 24: (640x480) 640 x 480, 75 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 25: (640x480) 640 x 480, 73 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 26: (640x480) 640 x 480, 67 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 27: (640x480) 640 x 480, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 28: (640x480) 640 x 480, 60 Hz
                                            [INFO] [DRM]: Mode 29: (720x400) 720 x 400, 70 Hz
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Found GL context: kms
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Detecting screen resolution 1920x1080.
                                            [INFO] [EGL] Found EGL client version >= 1.5, trying eglGetPlatformDisplay
                                            [INFO] [EGL]: EGL version: 1.4
                                            [INFO] [EGL]: Current context: 0xa3539bf0.
                                            [INFO] [KMS]: New FB: 1920x1080 (stride: 7680).
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Vendor: Broadcom, Renderer: V3D 4.2.
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Version: OpenGL ES 3.1 Mesa 19.3.2.
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Using resolution 1920x1080
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Default shader backend found: glsl.
                                            [INFO] [Shaders]: preset directory: /home/pi/.config/retroarch/config
                                            [INFO] [Shaders]: preset directory: /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/
                                            [INFO] [Shaders]: preset directory: /home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/presets
                                            [INFO] [Shader driver]: Using GLSL shader backend.
                                            [WARN] [GL]: Stock GLSL shaders will be used.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
                                            [INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Using 4 textures.
                                            [INFO] [GL]: Loaded 1 program(s).
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Keyboard #0 (/dev/input/event0).
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Keyboard #1 (/dev/input/event3).
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Mouse #0 (/dev/input/event7).
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Mouse #1 (/dev/input/mouse0).
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Plugged pad: USB Gamepad  (121:17) on port #0.
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Pad #0 (/dev/input/event8) supports 0 force feedback effects.
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Plugged pad: USB Gamepad  (121:17) on port #1.
                                            [INFO] [udev]: Pad #1 (/dev/input/event9) supports 0 force feedback effects.
                                            [INFO] [Joypad]: Found joypad driver: "udev".
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [Video]: Found display server: null
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/2xsal-level2-crt.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/2xsal.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/2xScaleHQ.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/barrel-distortion.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/barrel-distortion_lanczos4.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/barrel-distortion_phosphor.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/barrel-distortion_snes.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/Brighter-with_Contrast.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/bsnes_gamma_ramp.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/crt-pi-curvature-vertical.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/crt-pi-curvature.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/crt-pi-vertical.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/crt-pi.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/gameboy-screen-grid.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/gameboy.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/gameboy2.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/gba-color.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2x&lcd3x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2x2.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2x_lcd3x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2x_phosphor.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2xwaterpaint.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq2xwaterpaintscanline.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq4x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/hq4x_lcd3x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/kawase_glow.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/nds-color.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/nds.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/nedi.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/palm-color.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/phosphor.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/psp-color.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/retroarch.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/sharp-bilinear-2x-prescale.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/sharp-bilinear-scanlines.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/sharp-bilinear-simple.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes2.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_hq2x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_hq2xwaterpaint.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_hq2xwaterpainthicontrast.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_hq2xwaterpaintscanline.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_lcd3x.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_phosphor.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_scanline.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/snes_waterpaint.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/stock.glsl"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/super-2xsai.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/super-eagle.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/vba-color.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/xbr-lv1-noblend.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/zfast_crt_curve.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/zfast_crt_curve_vertical.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/zfast_crt_standard.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/zfast_crt_standard_vertical.glslp"
                                            [INFO] Found shader "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/shaders/zfast_lcd_standard.glslp"
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Using signed 16-bit format.
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Period size: 768 frames
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Buffer size: 3072 frames
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Can pause: no.
                                            [INFO] [Menu]: Found menu display driver: "gl".
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [Menu]: Found menu display driver: "gl".
                                            [INFO] [LED]: LED driver = 'null' 0x4b477c
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Initializing ...
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Input disabled.
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Output disabled.
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Initialized "alsa" driver.
                                            [INFO] Loading history file: [/opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/content_history.lpl].
                                            [INFO] Loading history file: [/opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/content_music_history.lpl].
                                            [INFO] Loading history file: [/opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/content_video_history.lpl].
                                            [INFO] Loading history file: [/opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/content_image_history.lpl].
                                            [INFO] Loading favorites file: [/opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/content_favorites.lpl].
                                            [libretro INFO] Starting game:pmd851  -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/lr-mess -c -ui_active -cass "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/manicmin.zip"
                                            [libretro WARN] Driver manicmin not found -1
                                            [libretro ERROR] Driver not found manicmin
                                            [libretro INFO] Game name: pmd851, Game description: PMD-85.1
                                            [libretro ERROR] System not found: pmd851
                                            [libretro INFO] Game name: pmd851, Game description: PMD-85.1
                                            [libretro INFO] Creating frontend for game: manicmin
                                            [libretro INFO] Softlists: 0
                                            Unknown system 'manicmin'
                                            
                                            "manicmin" approximately matches the following
                                            supported machines (best match first):
                                            
                                            maniac            Maniac                        (Ideal Toy Corporation, 1979)
                                            macii             Macintosh II                  (Apple Computer, 1987)
                                            machiman          Machine Man                   (Bandai, 1984)
                                            maciix            Macintosh IIx                 (Apple Computer, 1988)
                                            mapacman          Pac-Man (Micro Arcade)        (Super Impulse, 2017)
                                            mathmagi          Mathemagician                 (APF Electronics Inc., 1980)
                                            maciihmu          Macintosh II (w/o 68851 MMU)  (Apple Computer, 1987)
                                            magic6            Magic 6                       (<unknown>, 1993)
                                            magnum            Magnum                        (Dulmont, 1983)
                                            majgnc            Golden Nugget Casino          (Majesco / JungleTac, 200?)
                                            famitwin          Famicom Twin                  (Sharp, 1986)
                                            maciici           Macintosh IIci                (Apple Computer, 1989)
                                            maciicx           Macintosh IIcx                (Apple Computer, 1989)
                                            maciifx           Macintosh IIfx                (Apple Computer, 1990)
                                            maciisi           Macintosh IIsi                (Apple Computer, 1990)
                                            maciivi           Macintosh IIvi                (Apple Computer, 1993)
                                            [libretro INFO] RES:5
                                            [libretro INFO] MAIN FIRST
                                            [libretro INFO] Joystick map: disabled
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SET_INPUT_DESCRIPTORS:
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: width=640 height=480
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: max_width=640 max_height=480
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: aspect_ratio = 1.333333
                                            [libretro INFO] AV_INFO: fps = 60.000000 sample_rate = 48000.000000
                                            [INFO] [Environ]: SET_SYSTEM_AV_INFO.
                                            [INFO] [Audio]: Set audio input rate to: 48000.00 Hz.
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Using signed 16-bit format.
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Period size: 768 frames
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Buffer size: 3072 frames
                                            [INFO] [ALSA]: Can pause: no.
                                            [INFO] [Menu]: Found menu display driver: "gl".
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: stb-unicode.
                                            [INFO] [LED]: LED driver = 'null' 0x4b477c
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Initializing ...
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Input disabled.
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Output disabled.
                                            [INFO] [MIDI]: Initialized "alsa" driver.
                                            [INFO] Game focus is: : off.
                                            [WARN] [udev]: Mouse grab/ungrab feature unavailable.
                                            [libretro INFO] ChangeAV: w:640 h:480 ra:1.333333.
                                            /opt/retropie/supplementary/runcommand/runcommand.sh: line 1319: 17147 Segmentation fault      /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/retroarch.cfg.add'|'/dev/shm/retroarch.cfg -S /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851 -s /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851 -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'pmd851  -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/pmd851/lr-mess -c -ui_active -cass "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pmd851/manicmin.zip"' --verbose
                                            
                                            

                                            Any guesses?

                                            Raspberry Pi 3b and 8GB Raspberry Pi 4, both running Retropie 4.7.1 installed from scratch using Raspberry Pi Imager, with wired keyboard, wireless mouse and double arcade joystick attached.

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