retroarch msx cheats

mitu

Try using a different core then (fmsx), maybe indeed, BlueMSX doesn't support cheats.
You were using the same core on Recalbox/Batocera ?

wicketewoks

@mitu

Yes, bluemsx, ok I have tried with fmsx and the game does not load, the screen stays black

mitu

fmsx may need the BIOS files placed in certain folder. If you were using the same cheats/core before, I don't know why it's not working. I advise you to update your system and get the latest version of the core and RetroArch.

wicketewoks

@mitu

thanks for helping me i will try

Edit: put the bios on, the game loads but the cheats still don't work, I've read that retroarch and fmsx cheats are not compatible

Folly

@wicketewoks @mitu

If correct and up to date it seems that lr-fmsx doesn't support cheats either :
https://docs.libretro.com/library/fmsx/ :
RetroArch Cheats ✕
Native Cheats ✕

lr-fbneo seems to support cheats but it can only emulate msx1 :
https://docs.libretro.com/library/fbneo/ :
RetroArch Cheats ✔
Native Cheats ✔

Very strange that there are cheats available but that the core don't seem to support them.

I will try some stuff when I can.

wicketewoks

@Folly

The strange thing is that it doesn't work in retropie and if in batocera/recalbox, but just try bluemsx, I'll try lr-fbneo

Folly

@wicketewoks said in retroarch msx cheats:

@Folly

The strange thing is that it doesn't work in retropie and if in batocera/recalbox, but just try bluemsx, I'll try lr-fbneo

You mean it works with lr-bluemsx in batocera and recallbox ?

wicketewoks

@Folly

correct

Edit: images belonging to batocera v35, bluemsx and the cheats obtained from retroarch

mitu

Both Batocera/Recalbox and RetroPie use the same BlueMSX core from the upstream libretro project - there's no difference here.
I'm a bit puzzled, since the core doesn't seem to support Cheats at all - the cheat related functions are just stubs and they are not implemented in BlueMSX. I also tested on another platform (Windows) and the cheats behave similarly as on RetroPie.

wicketewoks

@mitu

Hello, I understand, but how can you compare the first photos that belonged to Retropie and the last ones from Batocera? Differences can be seen.

These photos are the beginning of the game

mitu

@wicketewoks said in retroarch msx cheats:

Hello, I understand, but how can you compare the first photos that belonged to Retropie and the last ones from Batocera? Differences can be seen.

Leaving aside the menu driver difference (XMB vs. Ozone), the only difference I see is the version of BlueMSX - RetroPie has a newer version (Jul 2022) than the other systems (Feb 2022), which doesn't account for much, since there's only 1 commit between the 2 dates.

wicketewoks

@mitu said in retroarch msx cheats:

Ozone

If you mean ozone , I changed it to that one, Regarding the bluemsx version, I don't know what can influence it, Sorry I'm new to raspberry

edit: whether it works or not , nothing happens , it was just an appreciation , I still prefer retropie

As soon as I have a clear idea, I will try lr-fbneo that I have read in the forum apart from the partner that was mentioned

wicketewoks

@Folly @mitu
It took me a while to be able to try and work fbneo for msx because I've been very busy, it already works for me but no matter how much I've searched I haven't found a solution there are no fbneo cheats for msx1 only for arcade

Folly

@barbudreadmon

Can you help @wicketewoks to get msx cheats working on lr-fbneo ?

Do these cheats work on lr-fbneo ?
Or are there other msx cheats for lr-fbneo ?

barbudreadmon

@Folly said in retroarch msx cheats:

Do these cheats work on lr-fbneo ?
Or are there other msx cheats for lr-fbneo ?

Those cheats aren't meant for FBNeo.
Afaik, nobody wrote msx cheats for FBNeo.

Folly

@barbudreadmon

Thanks for you reply.
Ok, so that is a dead end too.

Folly

@wicketewoks

Until someone discovers how we can get it working with lr-bluemsx.
Using Mame and lr-mess described in this post seems to only working option for now :
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/34117/retroarch-msx-cheats/2

barbudreadmon

@Folly said in retroarch msx cheats:

Using Mame and lr-mess described in this post seems to only working option for now :
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/34117/retroarch-msx-cheats/2

FWIW, while time consuming, it's usually pretty straightforward to transform MAME xml cheats into cheat.dat entries compatible with FBNeo and older MAME. I suppose it could even be automated through some python script.

wicketewoks

I have continued doing tests, batocera 36 the cheats no longer work in bluemsx, in 35 they did work

barbudreadmon

@wicketewoks said in retroarch msx cheats:

I have continued doing tests, batocera 36 the cheats no longer work in bluemsx, in 35 they did work

It appears cheats are flagged as unsupported for the bluemsx core for some reason : https://github.com/libretro/libretro-super/blob/master/dist/info/bluemsx_libretro.info#L21. It might be a typo ?

You might be able to get cheats working again by modifying your local bluemsx_libretro.info file (replace false by true) ? Those values in info files used to be ignored by retroarch, but nowaday some of them disable/enable features, like https://github.com/libretro/libretro-super/blob/master/dist/info/bluemsx_libretro.info#L20 which controls savestates/rewind/netplay/runahead availability.