Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement

mitu

@roslof said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

Wondering what others are running for audio and if you've experienced any anomalies.

Running the default (ALSA). You do need to go once through the Audio menu and choose your output (HDMI1/HDMI2), but that's about it.

roslof

@mitu said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

Running the default (ALSA). You do need to go once through the Audio menu and choose your output (HDMI1/HDMI2), but that's about it.

Hmm. I'm running ALSA (RetroArch), but my RetroPie Audio menu (audiosettings) does not show HDMI1 or HDMI2 as options. Menu offers:

0 MAI PCM i2s-hifi-0
M Mixer - adjust output volume
R Reset to default
P Disable PipeWire

Mixer shows card as "vc4-hdmi-0" with "This sound device does not have any controls".

Must have something misconfigured here.

EDIT: @mitu Wondering if by "Audio menu" you meant from the ES retropie system menu (Settings)? If so, mine never showed up after install -- and if it's supposed to be there, wondering if it's because of the system bug when I first installed RetroPie fresh...

mitu

@roslof said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

Hmm. I'm running ALSA (RetroArch), but my RetroPie Audio menu (audiosettings) does not show HDMI1 or HDMI2 as options. Menu offers:

You're either not running the latest RetroPie-Setup or the PulseAudio/Wireplumber services are messing up the ALSA outputs.

roslof

@mitu said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

You're either not running the latest RetroPie-Setup or the PulseAudio/Wireplumber services are messing up the ALSA outputs.

Got it.

Okay. I can confirm that reinstalling the "retropiemenu" package created the ES Audio entry. Values are the same as I described above.

Would you recommend I reinstall latest Retropie-Setup over the existing installation and see if it allows for correct behavior?

mitu

@roslof said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

Would you recommend I reinstall latest Retropie-Setup over the existing installation and see if it allows for correct behavior?

There's no 'over' - you just update like normal and you get the latest version.

roslof

@mitu said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

There's no 'over' - you just update like normal and you get the latest version.

I see. I do update regularly, but have never seen the HDMI options in my menu(s) since initial installation. Similar to the Audio menu not appearing due to early adoption, and manually having to re-install the package, wondering if other functions are broken as a result of early installation -- and that the update script won't otherwise resolve. Will keep digging, and might play with a fresh install.
Cheers

EDIT: Another possibility I always consider is that when manually installing RetroPie-Setup for the first time, end-users like me don't get the packaged config.txt and cmdline.txt files and we kind of cobble together updates based on forum and Raspberry Pi knowledge. Wondering if there's something missing or misconfigured there.

mitu

@roslof said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

EDIT: Another possibility I always consider is that when manually installing RetroPie-Setup for the first time, end-users like me don't get the packaged config.txt and cmdline.txt files and we kind of cobble together updates based on forum and Raspberry Pi knowledge. Wondering if there's something missing or misconfigured there.

Yes, what's missing is the official support.

Cvore2004

I recently got a pair of 8bitdo controllers and updated everything, now I can’t get audio from either hdmi, regardless of hdmi1/0/default audio settings. Still a noob with this stuff, but it sounds like maybe more than just the dualshocks are causing issues? Or maybe it’s just something in the update.

Wish i had more time to play with this stuff

retropieuser555

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/10242

I noticed this ticket earlier, this is the reason standalone PPSSPP, VVVVV and various other SDL2 based applications don't boot correctly on the pi5 (without a desktop). Apparently requires a kernel fix so hopefully the RPI Devs will work on that sooner than later.

mechanicchicken

@Cvore2004 said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

I recently got a pair of 8bitdo controllers and updated everything, now I can’t get audio from either hdmi, regardless of hdmi1/0/default audio settings.

You could try setting your 8bitdo controller to mimic a different controller? On the Pro + ones holding start + x makes it mimic a switch pro, and start + y mimics an xbox controller I think?

That may solve some compatibility issues.

mitu

@retropieuser555 said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

I noticed this ticket earlier, this is the reason standalone PPSSPP, VVVVV and various other SDL2 based applications don't boot correctly on the pi5 (without a desktop). Apparently requires a kernel fix so hopefully the RPI Devs will work on that sooner than later.

The fix is already done, it will be part of the next RP kernel release (6.6). In the mean time, enabling VSync should fix the issue for most SDL2 standalone applications.

retropieuser555

@mitu Would that need vsync settings specific to each program? Or there's a config that can be enabled when setting say VVVVV or PPSSPP?

mitu

@retropieuser555 said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

Would that need vsync settings specific to each program?

If it's SDL, then there's an env var that can be used (SDL_RENDER_VSYNC), otherwise is application settings specific.

retropieuser555

@mitu said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

The fix is already done, it will be part of the next RP kernel release (6.6). In the mean time, enabling VSync should fix the issue for most SDL2 standalone applications.

The fix I think has been backported into 6.1.

If I run update and upgrade etc then rpi-update, does rpi-update look for the most recent bump 6.1.73? Or up to the bleeding edge most recent commit even if it's not bumped to 6.1.74 yet?

TPR

Is there a recommended solution to port a Pi 4 build over to the Pi 5 board without having to start over from scratch?

ExarKunIv

@TPR unfortunately no.

You can copy your roms and config files. But that's about it

retropieuser555

@TPR trouble is most pi 4 builds are 32 bit...and on Buster or Stretch. So not only there's the issue of going into new hardware, there's also the change to Bookworm & 64 bit. So none of the emulators/cores would work with those versions

TPR

@ExarKunIv The config files porting over will be a huge time saver at least.

Rockofan96

Hello everyone, I’m new to here. Nice to meet you. And I do have this question while we are waiting for an official retropie image for the raspberry pi 5 (no rush). Has anyone tried Atari jaguar games on the pi 5 yet? I’m just curious to see the comparison between running it on the pi 5 and pi 4.

roslof

@Rockofan96 said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

Hello everyone, I’m new to here. Nice to meet you. And I do have this question while we are waiting for an official retropie image for the raspberry pi 5 (no rush). Has anyone tried Atari jaguar games on the pi 5 yet? I’m just curious to see the comparison between running it on the pi 5 and pi 4.

No comparison. Jaguar runs well on the Pi5 where it never ran well on the Pi4. Tempest 2000 is no longer a slide show.