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    Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5

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    • DTEAMD
      DTEAM @Peeteris
      last edited by

      @Peeteris
      By the way, I had the same problem. Playing with the delay is a temporary solution, but the problem is still there. It's just hidden by this solution but not fixed.

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        Peeteris @DTEAM
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        @DTEAM Yes, it appeared out of the blue. I'm sure the problem is not on my end, and delaying video doesn't fix it, as if i want to watch a video preview of a game selecting next game ES still lags and drops framerate to zero.
        Hopefully someone on Retropie team will catch this bug and be able to address it.
        As of 19.08.2024., problem still exists.

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          NjayNL @Peeteris
          last edited by

          @Peeteris

          I have the same issue, this is solved by setting the videoplayer to OSMX but i a missing that option because emulationstation is stuck on 2.11 and i can't seem to update it on the PI5

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          • RapidEdwin08R
            RapidEdwin08 @Peeteris
            last edited by RapidEdwin08

            @Peeteris I have this problem too.
            I have my theme set to 2.75 sec delay, and it feels more like the issue is at stop rather than at start.
            I changed it to 0 sec delay, and it starts quick when first entering a system I feel, then frame drop at stopping...
            But I can confirm the issue as well.

            I think the issue stems from using VLC to play the snaps on rPi, and there's no OMX player since Buster.

            Raspberry Pi B, Pi B+, Pi2 B, Pi3 B, Pi3 B+, Pi Zero W, Pi4 (4GB/8GB), Pi5 (8GB/16GB), Pi Zero 2 W, GPi V1, minisforum GK50 / RetroPie 4.8.x

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            • LolonoisL
              Lolonois
              last edited by

              The delay at stop/change of a video with libvlc3 can be explained here. libvlc4 (no ETA) will provide an asynchronous stop method which should mitigate this issue.

              I detected another issue, when PowerSaving is set to INSTANT (or the theme does not use "delay" or has a "delay" of 0): When changing the selected game in a list the newly selected game does not show the video at all (black frame). Only if the selection is changed again one can see a few frames of the video which should be shown just before the selection changes.

              However, when the main menu (or options) is opened and closed again the video plays as expected. Does anybody else has this issue too?

              This is the test setup:

              • Rpi5, 4GB, Sandisk SD
              • RaspiOS 64Bit lite (Bookworm), with current RetroPie-Setup "Basic Install"
              • Both issues can be reproduced with EmulationStation 2.11.2RP as well as the dev version.
              • Videos scraped with Skyscraper from screenscraper, not post processed
              • Monitor 1280x1024 connected via HDMI->VGA
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                Peeteris @RapidEdwin08
                last edited by

                @RapidEdwin08 RPi5 uses VLC, no OMX.

                Pretty much nothing we can do at the moment?
                Strange, because few months ago it worked flawlessly.

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                • LolonoisL
                  Lolonois @Peeteris
                  last edited by

                  @Peeteris said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                  Pretty much nothing we can do at the moment?
                  Strange, because few months ago it worked flawlessly.

                  At least there is a workaround. It turns out that with version 3.0.21 of libvlc the behaviour reported here was introduced. I am not a big fan of downgrading but here is my workaround.

                  Put this script somewhere at your Pi 5 (with 64Bit RaspiOS), make is executable (chmod a+x <thisscript>.sh) and let it run. You will get a warning message that you are downgrading from 3.0.21 to 3.0.20 but let's accept the risk for now.

                  #!/usr/bin/env bash
                  
                  pkgs=(libvlc5 libvlc-bin libvlccore9 vlc-bin vlc-data vlc-plugin-base)
                  ver="3.0.20-0+rpt6+deb12u1"
                  
                  pushd /tmp
                  for p in "${pkgs[@]}"; do
                    arch="arm64"
                    if [[ "$p" == "vlc-data" ]] ; then
                      arch="all"
                    fi
                    wget "http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/v/vlc/${p}_${ver}_${arch}.deb"
                  done
                  
                  dpkg -i *.deb
                  apt-mark hold "${pkgs[@]}"
                  
                  popd
                  

                  Then restart ES, it should work without lag/freeze between the gamelist movements. :)

                  To backout/revert: Remove the hold on the six named packages (apt-mark unhold ...) and install the six packages from the maintained bookworm as usual.

                  The other issue with "Powermode Instant" still persists, but that's only an ES issue.

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                  • RapidEdwin08R
                    RapidEdwin08 @Lolonois
                    last edited by RapidEdwin08

                    @Lolonois Thanks for this, I tested and it Works as expected.

                    I took the liberty of adding some fluff to your workaround script, included a simple prompt + upgrade:

                    #!/usr/bin/env bash
                    
                    # Workaround for libvlc issue with video previews in ES by Lolonois
                    # https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/35717/emulationstation-video-previews-on-raspberry-pi-5/17
                    
                    pkgs=(libvlc5 libvlc-bin libvlccore9 vlc-bin vlc-data vlc-plugin-base)
                    ver="3.0.20-0+rpt6+deb12u1"
                    
                    tput reset
                    echo
                    echo DOWNGRADE [libvlc] to [v$ver]
                    echo _OR _
                    echo Remove the HOLD of [v$ver] + UPGRADE [libvlc]
                    echo
                    echo "SELECT: [downgrade] or [upgrade]"
                    echo "  1) DOWNGRADE libvlc to [v$ver]"
                    echo "  2) UPGRADE libvlc"
                    echo "  3) QUIT"
                    
                    read n
                    case $n in
                      1) vlcCHOICE=downgrade;;
                      2) vlcCHOICE=upgrade;;
                      3) exit 0;;
                      *) echo "You must SELECT: [downgrade] or [upgrade]"; exit 0;;
                    esac
                    
                    pushd /tmp > /dev/null 2>&1
                    for p in "${pkgs[@]}"; do
                      arch="arm64"
                      if [[ "$p" == "vlc-data" ]] ; then
                        arch="all"
                      fi
                      if [[ "$vlcCHOICE" == "upgrade" ]]; then sudo apt-mark unhold "${pkgs[@]}"; echo HOLD has been REMOVED for [v$ver]; echo Attempting to UPGRADE "${pkgs[@]}"; sudo apt-get install "${pkgs[@]}"; popd; exit 0; fi
                      wget "http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/v/vlc/${p}_${ver}_${arch}.deb"
                    done
                    
                    sudo dpkg -i *.deb
                    sudo apt-mark hold "${pkgs[@]}"
                    rm /tmp/*.deb
                    
                    popd
                    
                    

                    Raspberry Pi B, Pi B+, Pi2 B, Pi3 B, Pi3 B+, Pi Zero W, Pi4 (4GB/8GB), Pi5 (8GB/16GB), Pi Zero 2 W, GPi V1, minisforum GK50 / RetroPie 4.8.x

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                      Peeteris @RapidEdwin08
                      last edited by

                      Amazing! Thank you very much!
                      Glad to hear that I'm not crazy, because for 2 months no one really agreed that this problem is real. ❤️

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                      • DTEAMD
                        DTEAM @Peeteris
                        last edited by

                        @Peeteris said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                        because for 2 months no one really agreed that this problem is real

                        No, it's a major problem for video previews. I hope they will fix the problem for the future.

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                        • DTEAMD
                          DTEAM @RapidEdwin08
                          last edited by DTEAM

                          @RapidEdwin08

                          I did this but it won't run. My .sh file is in /home/pi/

                          pi@retropie:~ $ chmod a+x /home/pi/esdowngrade.sh
                          pi@retropie:~ $ /home/pi/esdowngrade.sh
                          /usr/bin/env: ‘bash\r’: No such file or directory
                          /usr/bin/env: use -[v]S to pass options in shebang lines
                          
                          

                          or

                          
                          pi@retropie:~ $ sh /home/pi/esdowngrade.sh
                          : not founddowngrade.sh: 2:
                          : not founddowngrade.sh: 5:
                          /home/pi/esdowngrade.sh: 6: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
                          
                          

                          any idea why

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                          • RapidEdwin08R
                            RapidEdwin08 @DTEAM
                            last edited by

                            @DTEAM said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                            @RapidEdwin08

                            I did this but it won't run. My .sh file is in /home/pi/

                            pi@retropie:~ $ chmod a+x /home/pi/esdowngrade.sh
                            pi@retropie:~ $ /home/pi/esdowngrade.sh
                            /usr/bin/env: ‘bash\r’: No such file or directory
                            /usr/bin/env: use -[v]S to pass options in shebang lines
                            
                            

                            any idea why

                            Not sure, something wrong with the 1st line, maybe strange character in the copy/paste?...

                            I added vlc-downgrade script to GIT for the time being, so you can try this:

                            wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RapidEdwin08/RetroPie-Setup/master/vlc-downgrade.sh -P ~/
                            chmod 755 ~/vlc-downgrade.sh
                            ~/vlc-downgrade.sh
                            

                            Raspberry Pi B, Pi B+, Pi2 B, Pi3 B, Pi3 B+, Pi Zero W, Pi4 (4GB/8GB), Pi5 (8GB/16GB), Pi Zero 2 W, GPi V1, minisforum GK50 / RetroPie 4.8.x

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                            • DTEAMD
                              DTEAM @RapidEdwin08
                              last edited by DTEAM

                              @RapidEdwin08 said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                              ~/vlc-downgrade.sh

                              It works !!! thanks !!!

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                              • LolonoisL
                                Lolonois @DTEAM
                                last edited by Lolonois

                                @DTEAM said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                                /usr/bin/env: ‘bash\r’: No such file or directory

                                A file newline issue sneaked in (Windows \r\n, Linux \n). Most likely happened by transferring the script to the Pi.

                                To be on the safe side next time: dos2unix <scriptfile> (sudo apt install dos2unix) is your friend.

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                                • LolonoisL
                                  Lolonois @Lolonois
                                  last edited by Lolonois

                                  @Lolonois said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                                  I detected another issue, when PowerSaving is set to INSTANT ...

                                  Simply: Don't! Do not set Power Saver Mode to INSTANT in Main Menu -> Other Settings to instant when you have VideoGamelists or use the Random VIdeo Screensaver. It will make your videos hang as I outlined in my cited post.

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                                    DTEAM @RapidEdwin08
                                    last edited by DTEAM

                                    @RapidEdwin08 said in Emulationstation video previews on Raspberry Pi 5:

                                    wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RapidEdwin08/RetroPie-Setup/master/vlc-downgrade.sh -P ~/
                                    chmod 755 ~/vlc-downgrade.sh
                                    ~/vlc-downgrade.sh

                                    Hi @RapidEdwin08 ,
                                    I'm trying to go back to the old VLC version but it doesn't' work. It works in the past, but now it stop working. you can see my log here

                                    https://pastebin.com/xmmUjQkr

                                    It stop to work when I tried to install the older version of Dolphin.

                                    Any Idea to fix that?

                                    NEW EDIT: Solve with this - https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=373298

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