Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu

DjDiabolik

@mitu I have a question to ask:
the runcommand window timeout (when a game it's launched), if I'm not mistaken, is 2 seconds.

Isn't that too short a time frame for the joy2key to capture pressure from the arcade stick?

Because also if i launch joy2key from terminal.... It takes almost 4 seconds to add the arcade stick configuration when instead I believe the keyboard is available immediately.

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

Because also if i launch joy2key from terminal.... It takes almost 4 seconds to add the arcade stick configuration when instead I believe the keyboard is available immediately.

The keyboard is not processed via joy2key, while the joystick is. Looking at the debug log it takes around 2 or 3 sec for joy2key to load the configuration:

/opt/retropie/admin/joy2key/joy2key_sdl.py kcub1 kcuf1 kcuu1 kcud1 0x0a 0x20 0x1b 0x00 kpp knp -d
2024-10-17 16:53:33,314 DEBUG  Debugging enabled, running in foreground
[...]
2024-10-17 16:53:36,057 DEBUG  Using SDL Version 2.30.0, PySDL2 version 0.9.16
2024-10-17 16:53:36,057 DEBUG  Creating uinput keyboard devices with events: [(1, 105), (1, 106), (1, 103), (1, 108), (1, 28), (1, 57), (1, 1), (1, 0), (1, 104), (1, 109)]
2024-10-17 16:53:36,111 DEBUG  Joystick #0 DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick added
...

2024-10-16 03:21:20,549 DEBUG  Debugging enabled, running in foreground
...
2024-10-16 03:21:23,482 DEBUG  Using SDL Version 2.30.0, PySDL2 version 0.9.16

However, the load time should be identical to the one from the previous version, so there's nothing new here. You may want to increase the runcommand launch timeout from the configuration if your system is too slow.

EDIT: in contrast, the start-up is almost instant on a Pi4, under 1 sec. Something's fishy with Ubuntu's python-sdl2 combo.

python3 ~/src/joy2key_sdl.py kcub1 kcuf1 kcuu1 kcud1 0x0a 0x20 0x1b 0x09 kpp knp -d
2024-10-17 21:05:22,092 DEBUG  Debugging enabled, running in foreground
2024-10-17 21:05:22,092 DEBUG  Joy map:
 {'left': 105, 'right': 106, 'up': 103, 'down': 108, 'a': 28, 'b': 57, 'x': 1, 'y': 15, 'pageup': 104, 'pagedown': 109}
2024-10-17 21:05:22,222 DEBUG  Using SDL Version 2.30.8, PySDL2 version 0.9.9
2024-10-17 21:05:22,223 DEBUG  Creating uinput keyboard devices with events: [(1, 105), (1, 106), (1, 103), (1, 108), (1, 28), (1, 57), (1, 1), (1, 15), (1, 104), (1, 109)]
2024-10-17 21:05:22,224 DEBUG  Joystick #0 8BitDo M30 gamepad added
2024-10-17 21:05:22,224 DEBUG  Added configuration for known device 8BitDo M30 gamepad, hats: {}, buttons: {9: 'pagedown', 8: 'pageup', 4: 'y', 3: 'x', 1: 'b', 0: 'a'}, axis: {0: [(-1, 'left'), (1, 'right')], 1: [(1, 'down'), (-1, 'up')]}

DjDiabolik

@mitu i don't have idea if this time can be change from here:

How you can see i have set it to 20 seconds (i can reach this directly from retropie setup script launched from terminal).
Back to my Ubuntu Desktop and launch retropie from dock icon
Try to launch a games.

It doesn't look like the 20 second setting is being respected. Maybe a few seconds less.
Anyway, I pressed random buttons on my arcade stick the whole time I waited and nothing happened...... the runcommands option it's not accessible via arcade stick :)

Strange.

EDIT after some testing
nothing to do.... i have tryed to change some setting on this screen.

I have try to raise the value... from default 2 to 20... 50...100....200 but apparently this value it's not respect the real delay or the duration of runcommands windows before a games it's started.
This time it's ever about 2 or 3 seconds.....
Instead the option "Launch menù Joystick Control".... if i set to "Disabled" i can't move inside all option menù using joystick.

The only issue it's reach and open this runcommand menù.. apparently it's only work if i press a keyboard buttons...

Another EDIT
and just to confirm... this:

The workaround on retropie.sh it's apparently work..... now runcommand and retropie setup can be run without any crash also from emulationstation as he had suggested @V0rt3x667

I have preserve the original line with a # as comment :)

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

How you can see i have set it to 20 seconds (i can reach this directly from retropie setup script launched from terminal).

Ok, it's the 'splash' image delay and it's not for the runcommand menu. I'll see if I can reproduce the slow start on Ubuntu, since I can't on the Pi, and see there's a solution.

DjDiabolik

@mitu ah ok... at some point I also thought that that value did not affect the runcommand screen timeout. lol :)

it is not certain then that this delay that is created in loading the profile of my pad is the solution. Mine could only be a hypothesis.

so the runcommand screen, if I understand correctly, does not have a pre-set duration but remains on the screen for the amount of time that retroarch takes to start?

if i can do some tests in some way please suggest. As you may have understood i like to explore and look for alternative and/or temporary solutions.

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

so the runcommand screen, if I understand correctly, does not have a pre-set duration but remains on the screen for the amount of time that retroarch takes to start?

No, there's no waiting, it's a 2 sec timeout (I think here) before either the emulator is launched or the launching image is shown (with the timeout specified in the settings).

I think I've narrowed it down to the SDL2 version included in Ubuntu and the new input group that's used to control the uinput device. Can you run, from a terminal:


cd $HOME/RetroPie-Setup
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh sdl2

and then re-try to see if runcommand menu works like before ?

DjDiabolik

@mitu look what's happend when i execute this:

diabolik@NUC-Ubuntu:~/RetroPie-Setup$ sudo ./retropie_packages.sh sdl2

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Installing dependencies for 'sdl2' : SDL (Simple DirectMedia Layer) v2.x
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Did not find needed dependencies: fcitx-libs-dev libegl1-mesa-dev libgles2-mesa-dev devscripts debhelper dh-autoreconf. Trying to install them now.
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Recuperati 910 kB in 1s (867 kB/s)    
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
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Generazione albero delle dipendenze... Fatto
etc etc etc....

It literally started an endless series of installations and even compilations it seems...

If you can understand how it's really do i have paste all text in pastebin service here:
https://pastebin.com/tB82TE1f

It's all installed correctly ? what did he actually install?
I hope I didn't mess up the operating system because I wouldn't want to find myself formatting my mini PC for this thing.

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

It's all installed correctly ? what did he actually install?

Yes, it seems the installation is ok. It installs a SDL2 version that's newer than the one included in Ubuntu 24.04.

DjDiabolik

I try to read line by line my pastebin :)

near the end i can read this:

dpkg-deb: generazione del pacchetto "libsdl2-dev" in "../libsdl2-dev_2.30.8+1_amd64.deb".
dpkg-deb: generazione del pacchetto "libsdl2-dbg" in "../libsdl2-dbg_2.30.8+1_amd64.deb".
dpkg-deb: generazione del pacchetto "libsdl2-2.0-0" in "../libsdl2-2.0-0_2.30.8+1_amd64.deb".

Am I right if I say that above he compiled these 3 .DEB packages and then correctly installed them?

and anyway YES!!!! Now I launched emulationstation and then a game and now when the runcommand window appears.... as soon as I pressed a button on the arcade stick the options window appeared immediately!

And look also here:

diabolik@NUC-Ubuntu:~/RetroPie-Setup$ /opt/retropie/admin/joy2key/joy2key_sdl.py kcub1 kcuf1 kcuu1 kcud1 0x0a 0x20 0x1b 0x00 kpp knp -d
2024-10-20 16:25:31,709 DEBUG  Debugging enabled, running in foreground
2024-10-20 16:25:31,709 DEBUG  Cannot determine input code for "0x00", value ignored
2024-10-20 16:25:31,709 DEBUG  Cannot determine input code for "0x00", value ignored
2024-10-20 16:25:31,710 DEBUG  Joy map:
 {'left': 105, 'right': 106, 'up': 103, 'down': 108, 'a': 28, 'b': 57, 'x': 1, 'y': 0, 'pageup': 104, 'pagedown': 109}
2024-10-20 16:25:31,853 DEBUG  Using SDL Version 2.30.8, PySDL2 version 0.9.16
2024-10-20 16:25:31,854 DEBUG  Creating uinput keyboard devices with events: [(1, 105), (1, 106), (1, 103), (1, 108), (1, 28), (1, 57), (1, 1), (1, 0), (1, 104), (1, 109)]
2024-10-20 16:25:31,907 DEBUG  Joystick #0 DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick added
2024-10-20 16:25:31,907 DEBUG  Added configuration for known device DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick, hats: {}, buttons: {6: 'pagedown', 4: 'pageup', 0: 'y', 2: 'x', 1: 'b', 3: 'a'}, axis: {0: [(-1, 'left'), (1, 'right')], 1: [(1, 'down'), (-1, 'up')]}

From right now for load the Joystick profile it's take immediatelly!!! even in the same second it does everything it previously did beyond 3 seconds.

So... we have found a definiteve solution ? On current UBUNTU we only need to install this DEV version of SDL2 ?

is it that now also the old version of joy2key work whitout need to use the phyton input mode ?

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

So... we have found a definiteve solution ? On current UBUNTU we only need to install this DEV version of SDL2 ?

For now it's just a workaround, the solution is for Ubuntu to patch their SDL2 package in order to get rid of this issue.

is it that now also the old version of joy2key work whitout need to use the phyton input mode ?

No, the new version is still present, in fact it's needed because of the Linux kernel changes that triggered the error you have encountered in the beginning.

DjDiabolik

@mitu said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

For now it's just a workaround, the solution is for Ubuntu to patch their SDL2 package in order to get rid of this issue.

ok... but now that I have installed these compiled sdl2 in dev version how can I be useful to you for other tests?

also in case of any updates of Ubuntu itself can I run into problems?

and will this "dev" version of sdl2 from now on be updated together with the usual updates from the "retropie setup" script in my case ?

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

also in case of any updates of Ubuntu itself can I run into problems?

No.

and will this "dev" version of sdl2 from now on be updated together with the usual updates from the "retropie setup" script in my case ?

~~No.~~ Yes, it will be updated if RetroPie updates the sdl2 module.

EDIT: corrected the update option, I don't know why I said no.

DjDiabolik

@mitu said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

No. Yes, it will be updated if RetroPie updates the sdl2 module.

EDIT: corrected the update option, I don't know why I said no.

Lol :) It can happen that you make a mistake when writing.

If you want, the strange thing is that it apparently does not appear among the installed packages.
Is it perhaps set as a dependency?

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

If you want, the strange thing is that it apparently does not appear among the installed packages.

Yes, it does, look closer.

DjDiabolik

@mitu said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

Yes, it does, look closer.

Lol... it's very latest package number 237.... and i need to update them. I think this will happen very often. Maybe as often as the arcade cores (like fbneo or mame2003) themselves which have almost daily commits :)

DjDiabolik

@mitu at this point i have a question...... for this package now the situation it's:

Unable to check update for this package.... ok but every time I do the updates now it recompiles the same version of the 3 DEB files and reinstalls them every time, it also reinstalls all the dependencies. Is this normal? How do I avoid this?

mitu

@DjDiabolik said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

How do I avoid this?

At this time, there's no option for source installs. As it shows on the screen, the script cannot determine/doesn't know if a new version is available, so it always updates/installs it.

EDIT: you can delete the /opt/retropie/supplementary/sdl2 folder and the RetroPie script will 'forget' about sdl2 and it will think that it's using the system's SDL2 so it won't try to update it.

DjDiabolik

@mitu said in Retropie setup menu/Runcommand crashing in ES on Ubuntu:

EDIT: you can delete the /opt/retropie/supplementary/sdl2 folder and the RetroPie script will 'forget' about sdl2 and it will think that it's using the system's SDL2 so it won't try to update it.

Great suggestion... this way I think it's like I never installed this package.