Freezing when editing MetaData

Dominus

I have a Pi3 running RetroPie 4.0, and I just added a few new systems/roms to my Pi. I'm using the Simple theme. When I try to edit the MetaData now though it freezes. My GPU Memory split I set to 512 to see if this would help, but it continues to freeze on me. ~~I tried Carbon and it seems to work fine.~~ I just had it freeze when trying to edit in Carbon as well now. Can I or should I up my Split higher? I have 30 systems now, and would like to use the Simple theme as I love the blurred backgrounds and the info screen for each rom.

meleu

@Dominus what exactly you mean with "edit metadata"?
Are you editting gamelist.xml files while ES is running?

Dominus

@meleu While in ES and selecting a rom and editing it's Metadata in there.

meleu

@Dominus oh... I got it. Look at this thread and check if your problem is solved with the same workaround:

https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3979/edited-game-rom-metadata-not-being-saved

Dominus

@meleu nope its not a problem with it not saving, it's a problem of it freezing when I just select the option to edit it. Sometimes it will let me edit it and freeze when I hit scrape, sometimes it will freeze right away, sometimes it will freeze after the screen loads (shows all the options with scrape, save, delete etc... at the bottom)

meleu

@Dominus I didn't say the problems are the same. I suggested you to try the same workaround. This one.
I'm not sure if it solves you problem, but worth a try.

Dominus

@meleu So you're saying to shut the save Metadata off? But then any editing I do won't be saved?!? will it?

meleu

@Dominus said in Freezing when editing MetaData:

@meleu So you're saying to shut the save Metadata off?

I'm suggesting you to disable the ES "save metadata ON EXIT" feature.

I think if you read the entire thread you'll understand. Some "trial and error" is recommended too. ;-)

Dominus

@meleu Hmm it seems to be working so far actually! Thanks. I thought that option is how you save any edits you make to the MetaData, or is it just for the times played, last time played etc? So really it has nothing to do with splitting my GPU then? If so that is a relief! Thanks!

Dominus

Well I switched back to the Simple theme, but it still seems to do it even with "Save metadata on exit" off. I'll test it out in Carbon next and see if it still does it.

Dominus

@Dominus said in Freezing when editing MetaData:

Well I switched back to the Simple theme, but it still seems to do it even with "Save metadata on exit" off. I'll test it out in Carbon next and see if it still does it.

Well unfortunately even on Carbon I still have the same problem. Heck even hitting 'Select' on a rom to view the options froze. Anyone else have any other ideas? Does anyone know if raising the GPU split would cause a problem with anything else? Maybe it's too high at 512?

herb_fargus

It's possible a bug was introduced with: https://github.com/RetroPie/EmulationStation/commit/77ad01c12cb1eeb6f0569c4970ab3f73b804383d but I haven't been able to test to confirm. Otherwise I'm going to go with user error

meleu

@Dominus did you update your emulationstation recently?
What's your RetroPie version?
The PR @herb_fargus mentioned was merged 11 days ago.

jacobfk20

I tried reproducing this with latest ES build but it runs fine. I would also like to know if you're on the latest ES. Is there anything weird showing up in your log?

Dominus

@jacobfk20 I'm using just 4.0, I see 4.0.2 is out now, should I update to it and hope that fixes it? I noticed it just recently started it since I added more systems. Do you have 30 or more on yours?

Dominus

@jacobfk20 I haven't checked the log or seen any errors when restarting or going to prompt.

meleu

@Dominus said in Freezing when editing MetaData:

@jacobfk20 I'm using just 4.0

So it's not the PR mentioned. @Dominus thanks for putting it clearly.

I noticed it just recently started it since I added more systems.

Uhmm... it seems to be something related to your big collection of systems. Not sure if updating would solve your problem, but I suggest a try. Recently the RetroPie fork emulationstation got two updates related to optmizations when using big gamelists...

herb_fargus

@meleu hardware limitations are hardware limitations. Until the software is coded differently there isn't much that can be done short of upping gpu or limiting systems. The updates to carbon have limited the amount of systems as well so the glow can be removed to improve processing but there is only so much you can do.

meleu

@herb_fargus said in Freezing when editing MetaData:

Until the software is coded differently there isn't much that can be done short of upping gpu or limiting systems.

I'm talking exactly about software being coded differently. Specifically these PRs:

https://github.com/RetroPie/EmulationStation/pull/59
https://github.com/RetroPie/EmulationStation/pull/65

herb_fargus

@meleu those have nothing to do with VRAM or dynamic image loading which is what causes emulationstation to freeze.

Unless you're referring to when it "freezes" while it is loading all the metadata. OP try updating emulationstation from source and see if the metadata changes speed anything up.