Mame 2003 wont start
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P.S. I installed RetroPie in Raspbina via this tutorial:
Dunno exactly which RetroPie version one gets that way, but I cannot imagine that an older version of RetroPie has problems w/ Libretto.
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@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
you are running 3.7, right? if not, you might want to rebuild retroarch from binaries.
do this. install individual emulators > retroarch from binaries via retropie-setup
Did it. Rebooted. Same error message.
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i have no idea about that way of installing retropie. i've always done it via the image.
rebuild retroarch from source? and also lr-mame2003 (will take about 30 minutes)
struggling to see what the problem could be once those two things are done.
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Your manual commandline is wrong btw. It expects a full path to the rom zip
You should use the current wiki for reference rather than guides from 2012 btw, but installing retropie on top of raspbian like this should work (it's how the images are generated)
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This is driving me completely crazy. I got it working once. Dunno if I started from command line or ES. I saw a stretched Retroarch screen (stretced from 4:3 to 16:9), saw a yellow text message that said something about my joypad. And it started Pacman.
This happend after I also re-installed lr-mame2003 after re-installing retroarch.
Now it don't work anymore, no matter what I re-install. There was also some trouble because I placed a remark in the file /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg (i.e.
<!-- REmark bla bla -->). The re-install of lr-mame2003 via retropie-setup.sh seemed to choke on this.I think my problem lies in config files.
P.S. @Buzz thank you for the tip. But when I replace the term "puckman" by something that doesn't exist then I get an other error. And the command line says
RetroArch [libretro INFO] :: Found game: puckman [puckman].. So I think it probably found it. Tried the same command w/ full path to puckman.zip. Same error unfortunately. -
Make sure your retroarch is up to date. There was a compatibility issue between mame2003 and retroarch recently that required a retroarch update (and depending on how you installed). try a "full binary install" to get the latest versions - your retroarch looks old actually.
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Darn it! It IS the ROMs.
Just now accidentally started
pacmaninstead ofpuckman, used the full path to the zip file of the ROM (as @Buzz recomended, thanks by the way) and it works (still stretched from 4:3 to 16:9). But only from the command line. And there are no samples (i.e. no sound when Mario jumps in Donkey Kong). Does not (yet) work from within Emulationstation. But that a question of altering the command with which the emu/ROM is loaded in/etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfgI hope.Now all I have to do is figure out how to alter the video mode from stretched to "real". And how to convert the ROMs I have to standalone ones (i.e. non-merged). I might try to convert the set again this night...
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Rebuilded the whole set last night (again) to non-merged. Last time I made the mistake of the 'Scanner' being not set to "non-merged set" too. Corrected that.
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
Tried the dkong.zip from the unmodified 0.78 ROM set that I downloaded. Dkong (US set 1) is a parent ROM. No samples either.
If anybody is interested: the log of clrmamepro didn't fit on Pastebin. It's 5.6 MB and Pastebin only allows 512 kB.
Avid Linux user.
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About the samples. Found this site from 2010 and it says:
MAME now supports samples which are not available anywhere at the present time - they simply haven't been created yet. If they can't be found here, then they can't be found anywhere.
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@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
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@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
Many apologies for not reading the Wiki well enough. In above mentioned Wiki link to the samples Mame2003 needs I see no samples for Donkey Kong Jr. nor Donkey Kong (hence no walking sounds for Donkey Jr. or Mario). Ye olde Twisty site that is mentioned there indeed does feature the samples. Apparently I had to put the samples in
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sampleinstead of <rom dir>/samples (notice the S). I'm awfully sorry, but a lot of things work different in lr-mame-2003 then what I'm used to since 1997.Downloaded a 0.103 ROM set. Used the parent roms in Advance Mame and most of them work (no need yet to convert w/ clrmame). For old geezers like me it's a breath of fresh air that things still work like on your PC and what you're used to since the late nineties.
What I learned from this: stick w/ ye olde plain Mame ports to the Pi and ask old geezers for tips on how to use and configure Mame. Or use Libretto if you have never, ever used Mame before in your life and if you like Retroarch because it works w/ one config for all your joysticks ect. If you do not want to get rtfm-ed use advmame and ask somebody who is prepared to forgive you having troubles w/ Mame for tips. Because Mame is terribly difficulty to master if you don't use one and the same Mame version w/ a ROM set of 4,000+ roms.
Thanks for the help everybody. My prob is solved. I do not even dare to ask 'bout lr-mame's audio probs. Tried some Wiki procedure w/ watching my monitor rate etc. I'm afraid I get rtfm-ed over and over again if I tell that it didn't work for me. Which is the real pain here. And yes, I did read the wiki's. All of them. At the moment I feel like the worlds dumbest ans stubbornest gamer in history. Really fed up w/ this. I had less trouble learning Quantum Mechanics in my first year (this is no lie). If you ask a professor a simple question his answer is never: "Read my book again, I'm too smart for this. You missed something. It's all in there.". OF COURSE it's all in there. If the fine manual is so great, why start a forum? The manual did solve a lot of probs for me though. But never dare to aks a question here.
Anyway, am using advmame now, a new set of roms and no real probs anymore. I love my Pi, I love Donkey Kong and I love Linux. TTFN, ta ta for now. ;)
Avid Linux user.
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@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
I'm having the same issue with samples not working for lr-mame2003 (as well as Advmame)
There doesn't seem to be the path that is listed in the wiki for lr-mame2003, /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sample
It ends at /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS there is no mame2003 directory. -
@Finhead said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
I'm having the same issue with samples not working for lr-mame2003 (as well as Advmame)
There doesn't seem to be the path that is listed in the wiki for lr-mame2003, /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sample
It ends at /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS there is no mame2003 directory.If you use advmame or mame4all the samples must be put in
<rom dir>/samplesfor instance:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/samplesNotice the S in the word samples! I just learned that the samples for lr-mame2003 should be placed in:
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sampleOn my Pi that directory is there. But I've been fidling a lot w/ lr-mame the last few days. Maybe you can create said dir or try advmame or mame4all.
Or should I say: rtfm! That seems to be the norm here. Good luck. :-)
P.S. Download your samples from: http://samples.mameworld.info/ or from: http://www.progettosnaps.net/samples/
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@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Finhead said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
I'm having the same issue with samples not working for lr-mame2003 (as well as Advmame)
There doesn't seem to be the path that is listed in the wiki for lr-mame2003, /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sample
It ends at /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS there is no mame2003 directory.If you use advmame or mame4all the samples must be put in
<rom dir>/samplesfor instance:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/samplesNotice the S in the word samples! I just learned that the samples for lr-mame2003 should be placed in:
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sampleOn my Pi that directory is there. But I've been fidling a lot w/ lr-mame the last few days. Maybe you can create said dir or try advmame or mame4all.
Or should I say: rtfm! That seems to be the norm here. Good luck. :-)
P.S. Download your samples from: http://samples.mameworld.info/ or from: http://www.progettosnaps.net/samples/
Yes that is the first thing I tried since mame4all used that setup, didn't work for me.
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@Finhead said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Finhead said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
I'm having the same issue with samples not working for lr-mame2003 (as well as Advmame)
There doesn't seem to be the path that is listed in the wiki for lr-mame2003, /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sample
It ends at /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS there is no mame2003 directory.If you use advmame or mame4all the samples must be put in
<rom dir>/samplesfor instance:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/samplesNotice the S in the word samples! I just learned that the samples for lr-mame2003 should be placed in:
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sampleOn my Pi that directory is there. But I've been fidling a lot w/ lr-mame the last few days. Maybe you can create said dir or try advmame or mame4all.
Or should I say: rtfm! That seems to be the norm here. Good luck. :-)
P.S. Download your samples from: http://samples.mameworld.info/ or from: http://www.progettosnaps.net/samples/
Yes that is the first thing I tried since mame4all used that setup, didn't work for me.
What game are you trying to play. Are you sure it uses samples? Because some don't.
Avid Linux user.
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@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
Downloaded a 0.103 ROM set. Used the parent roms in Advance Mame and most of them work (no need yet to convert w/ clrmame). For old geezers like me it's a breath of fresh air that things still work like on your PC and what you're used to since the late nineties.
but that's the exact same as lr-mame2003! if you downloaded a 0.78 set (which are available), as you were advised to, then you wouldn't have to do any of this.
What I learned from this: stick w/ ye olde plain Mame ports to the Pi and ask old geezers for tips on how to use and configure Mame. Or use Libretto if you have never, ever used Mame before in your life and if you like Retroarch because it works w/ one config for all your joysticks ect. If you do not want to get rtfm-ed use advmame and ask somebody who is prepared to forgive you having troubles w/ Mame for tips.
i must have spent several hours of my life helping you at this point, most of which was simply pointing you to our thorough documentation. i appreciate MAME is complicated, but i don't appreciate you posting misleading and wrong information about lr-mame2003, which you have done several times. other users are going to really struggle to get anything out of these threads.
Really fed up w/ this. I had less trouble learning Quantum Mechanics in my first year (this is no lie). If you ask a professor a simple question his answer is never: "Read my book again, I'm too smart for this. You missed something. It's all in there.". OF COURSE it's all in there. If the fine manual is so great, why start a forum? The manual did solve a lot of probs for me though. But never dare to aks a question here
it's 3 pages. go and look at my posting history if you think i have a problem with helping people.
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@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
Downloaded a 0.103 ROM set. Used the parent roms in Advance Mame and most of them work (no need yet to convert w/ clrmame). For old geezers like me it's a breath of fresh air that things still work like on your PC and what you're used to since the late nineties.
but that's the exact same as lr-mame2003! if you downloaded a 0.78 set (which are available), as you were advised to, then you wouldn't have to do any of this.
What I learned from this: stick w/ ye olde plain Mame ports to the Pi and ask old geezers for tips on how to use and configure Mame. Or use Libretto if you have never, ever used Mame before in your life and if you like Retroarch because it works w/ one config for all your joysticks ect. If you do not want to get rtfm-ed use advmame and ask somebody who is prepared to forgive you having troubles w/ Mame for tips.
i must have spent several hours of my life helping you at this point, most of which was simply pointing you to our thorough documentation. i appreciate MAME is complicated, but i don't appreciate you posting misleading and wrong information about lr-mame2003, which you have done several times. other users are going to really struggle to get anything out of these threads.
Really fed up w/ this. I had less trouble learning Quantum Mechanics in my first year (this is no lie). If you ask a professor a simple question his answer is never: "Read my book again, I'm too smart for this. You missed something. It's all in there.". OF COURSE it's all in there. If the fine manual is so great, why start a forum? The manual did solve a lot of probs for me though. But never dare to aks a question here
it's 3 pages. go and look at my posting history if you think i have a problem with helping people.
Don't want to make this topic even longer, but indeed I downloaded the 0.78 set first. Had some probes (my bad, didn't know the difference between parent and clone roms). Tried to convert them, did that wrong. And then I thought: I'll try another setof ROMs that is avaliable and "downgrade" from 0.13 to 0.78 or try them in advmame (which comes in a few versions: one that takes 0.94 roms and one that takes 0.106 see link). Wanted to use lr-mame to be able to save my games and because I could find a rom set for it that should work (the 0.78 set, that is).
@Finhead : @dankcushions is right: people are going to struggle to get anything out of this thread. You might want to start a new topic 'bout samples and mame.
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anyway, for my part i'm going to change mame2003 to unify the various directories so they're the same as traditional mame ('sample' to 'samples', etc), keeping it backwardly compatible with the previous setup, if possible. something productive from all of this ;)
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@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Finhead said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Finhead said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
@Meneer-Jansen said in Mame 2003 wont start:
They play standalone now. Still that problem w/ Donky Kong. No samples seem to be included in the ROM. Or is that common knowledge? Copied me ol' sampes dir to the dir w/ the lr-mame2003 roms. Still no walking or jumping sounds from Mario in Donkey Kong (i.e. still no samples). And a whole lotta cracks and pops. I don't think I'll try to troubleshoot the sound problems. Not worth the trouble. I'd be better off trying to get me a 0.94 set of standalone (i.e. non-merged) roms for advanceMame. AdvMame saves games too. And the samples work. Libretto and Retroach are too much of a pain to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
especially when you continue to refuse to read the documentation:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/lr-mame2003#samplessamples work fine in lr-mame2003
I'm having the same issue with samples not working for lr-mame2003 (as well as Advmame)
There doesn't seem to be the path that is listed in the wiki for lr-mame2003, /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sample
It ends at /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS there is no mame2003 directory.If you use advmame or mame4all the samples must be put in
<rom dir>/samplesfor instance:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/samplesNotice the S in the word samples! I just learned that the samples for lr-mame2003 should be placed in:
/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame2003/sampleOn my Pi that directory is there. But I've been fidling a lot w/ lr-mame the last few days. Maybe you can create said dir or try advmame or mame4all.
Or should I say: rtfm! That seems to be the norm here. Good luck. :-)
P.S. Download your samples from: http://samples.mameworld.info/ or from: http://www.progettosnaps.net/samples/
Yes that is the first thing I tried since mame4all used that setup, didn't work for me.
What game are you trying to play. Are you sure it uses samples? Because some don't.
Lol yes I know it uses Samples as it has a sample file, Donkey Kong was the one I was trying just to get samples working.
Got it going for Advmame fine now, it was actually a corrupt sample file. mame2003 still not working but not really a issue if I have Adv working since it's a better version IMO -
@dankcushions said in Mame 2003 wont start:
anyway, for my part i'm going to change mame2003 to unify the various directories so they're the same as traditional mame ('sample' to 'samples', etc), keeping it backwardly compatible with the previous setup, if possible. something productive from all of this ;)
You are lr-mame2003's dev? Great work on such a complex system! Good luck with developing. :)
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