ODroid XU4 and RetroPie

enderandrew

How is performance? Is there an advantage with the ODroid XU4 where it can run Dreamcast, PS1 and N64 better than the Pi 3 to justify the cost?

What emulators are you unable to run. I see Buzz said that not all are available for the ODroid.

Shockwave

Performance isn't all that great. Menus are real laggy and in-game isn't much better. Not optimized for the hardware in question, and it's going to take some time for that to happen. Haven't tried from the eMMC module (however, I just freed up one of my boards from openmediavault, so I actually might get the chance to use it!).

tipoto

Well, it depends on what was the meaning of the question.
If the question is to know how are the performances of XU4 using RetroPie, I guess the answer is: Not that great, because it's not optimized for this hardware yet !
But if you want to know if we can have good performances, in general, with Dreamcast, PS1, PSP and N64, then the answer is yes. I don't have a RPI3 to compare and say which one is best, but I can tell you that I have really good results with my XU4 (using OGST image).
Here is a video that I've done to compare 2 differents kernels (Kernel 3.10.105 vs. new Kernel 4.9.28):

The video shows a lot of footage of different emulators. I forgot to show Yabause (Saturn), but some games are totally playable.
My conclusion is that Kernel 3.10.105 is still best for emulation purpose, so you can skip the moments when you see 4.9.28 ;)

fnkngrv

@tipoto So is OGST AM only? I ask because I honestly do not care for AM. I prefer ES. AM adds additional overhead that really isn't needed to me.

tipoto

@fnkngrv
No, it's not AM only. My installation is heavily customized and I don't remember exactly what were the default settings, but I think it starts with Kody by default.
ES is also installed in the image (I never launched though).

OGST is a complete installation, with a desktop, internet navigators, some tools, applications AND plenty of emulators. I only use it for a retro gaming purpose, but you can do much more than that.

Shockwave

Online GameStation Turbo is not only AM (Attract Mode), but has EmulationStation as well as straight Retroarch (XMB front end, like Lakka). But OGST is MUCH better ran from the eMMC than from micro SD. The boost in load/access times alone makes th eupgrade worth it.

fnkngrv

@Shockwave said in ODroid XU4 and RetroPie:

Online GameStation Turbo is not only AM (Attract Mode), but has EmulationStation as well as straight Retroarch (XMB front end, like Lakka). But OGST is MUCH better ran from the eMMC than from micro SD. The boost in load/access times alone makes th eupgrade worth it.

So then you can run it from the emmc and store your games/media on an external HDD?

Shockwave

@fnkngrv said in ODroid XU4 and RetroPie:

@Shockwave said in ODroid XU4 and RetroPie:

Online GameStation Turbo is not only AM (Attract Mode), but has EmulationStation as well as straight Retroarch (XMB front end, like Lakka). But OGST is MUCH better ran from the eMMC than from micro SD. The boost in load/access times alone makes th eupgrade worth it.

So then you can run it from the emmc and store your games/media on an external HDD?

Yes, you sure can. :) USB 3.0 ports recommended for the game archive on an external HDD. Makes life grand. :D

stikoyan74

so is there a way to get kodi installed in retropie, ive read the earlier posts but I'm not clear on that, if so what are the actual steps as I'm a novice still with Linux and retropie.

Amorinor

I get
ALSA lib pcm.c:7963:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred
scrolling down the screen but sound in video snaps plays for a minute or two then I get
ALSA write failed (unrecoverable): Input/output error
then sound comes back. Anyone else run into this or know a solution?
i have tried the pulseaudio trick that didnt work and I do not have an audio option under retropie
roms seem like they are running with fast forward on but maybe thats related to the audio issue, not sure.

fnkngrv

Finally got around to picking up my XU4. Is it safe to assume that performance is still an issue with retropie on the board? Is there any other threads with progress being made or is it for the most part only for those that have the knowledge to tinker to make the improvements required to make it worth using for "regular" user?

fnkngrv

has this thread become dead? I have installed retropie on my XU4 and am starting to tinker with it. I know that there has been a statement made about there not being "active" development per se, but I have a couple questions:

Boot Splash Screens -> The option is not there in retropie-setup script? Is there a way to install or work with this manually?
Video Snaps -> They play awesome, but am I missing something as there is no audio for them?

Is there any suggestions on finding active threads for this other than this one? I will do a search, but am very curious.

fnkngrv

@amorinor did you ever find anything on this? I have no sound either in ES menus or video snaps running 4.2.20 and 4.2.22.

Sashby

@fnkngrv I found this. Maybe look into this but use appropriate steps for the Odroid-XU4?
http://www.bluemind.org/gamodroid-c0-odroid-based-portable-retrogaming

jit: username over at the Odroid forums and the maker of the "Gameodroid-C0"

Use Meveric's minimal Debian Jessie image for XU4 (instead of the Odroid C0 image linked under "Linux distrib and File system organization" in the GameOdroid-C0 linked above) https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=17542

Sashby

You can see here that his video previews work with sound but he's encoded them in "320×240@30 fps in h.264". Perhaps try encoding a sample video with Handbrake, for example, to see if the sound works?

Sashby

I found our saving grace for Odroid XU4 Retropie development.
Search on Facebook for ORA Odroid Retrogaming Arena

https://www.facebook.com/groups/OdroidRetrogamingArena

They've gotten sound working in game/ES, Splashscreen support via MPlayer, etc.

herb_fargus

@sashby well their disclaimer is a relief provided they follow it:

WARNING: This isn't a group created for rom sharing or the likes. There are plenty of other places for that. We ask that you attempt to refrain from turning the group into a ROM fleamarket of sorts. Also as well this is not a place to sell anything unless you have a personally owned board or setup that you are just going to part with and you plan on making what you put into it. This isn't a sales group.

krujak23

@herb_fargus: What advantages has compiling RetroPie against DRM/KMS + GBM? - Please see below the post from memeka from 11th October on odroids forum.

Link to the Odroid forum

According to memeka DRM/KMS + GBM is fixing the sound and speed issues!

herb_fargus

@krujak23 *shrugs don't have an odroid anymore so beats me.

fnkngrv

@herb_fargus said in ODroid XU4 and RetroPie:

@sashby well their disclaimer is a relief provided they follow it:

WARNING: This isn't a group created for rom sharing or the likes. There are plenty of other places for that. We ask that you attempt to refrain from turning the group into a ROM fleamarket of sorts. Also as well this is not a place to sell anything unless you have a personally owned board or setup that you are just going to part with and you plan on making what you put into it. This isn't a sales group.

This is my group that I created to help push development of different frontends for the Odroid product line. Rest assured unless for some reason I manage to get removed from the group somehow (highly unlikely with how I have set up Admins) we will be sticking to my disclaimer. I have already removed a couple posts that could be possibly construed as breaking my rules. Thankfully it has only been a couple posts pointing to videos, but those videos have annotations in the video description that would break the rules. I won't be policing for comments on videos, etc however if I can easily identify it without a ton of work they will be removed. My goal is for the community to grow as a whole and those types of posts only lead most times to drama.