[RELEASE] PSX-MINI Theme

ruckage

@thore said in My new theme PSX-MINI (based on Famicom-Mini):

I think nothing will happen here.

@thunderbolt said in My new theme PSX-MINI (based on Famicom-Mini):

Why? This would be a pity if you no longer work on this theme.

It's because it's currently based on my themes and per my license terms sharing of modified versions of my themes is not allowed.

I've spent a huge amount of time creating the graphics, designing the layout, and coding the theme itself.

Links to my theme threads below:

Nes mini and Famicom mini themes

SNES mini theme

In order to release this @frgn will have to create his own theme from scratch without using my theme as a base or using any of the graphics I created. At the moment it's clear that the layout, code, and many of the graphics are from my theme.

Hopefully @frgn will rise to challenge and create his own theme that is unique and different to my themes. He obviously has some skill when it comes to graphics so I'm sure he can.

Thunderbolt

@ruckage I did not know the theme of the origin of you. But then it is possible. I understand that.

@frgn I'm glad that you want to make your own theme. You'll definitely get that, your current graphics look great. I can imagine that it is a lot of work and not so easy. I am not familiar with the theme, but would still like to offer my help.

Thore

I would also offer my help

Cybermen

I find the theme of @ruckage really great and respect the work he put into the theme. Since I also have a Pi-Station, i would be very happy @frgn if you get your own theme. Very gladly I can support you also with the one or another.

Allanbuzzy

ahem
@frgn did do a theme previously called PiStation, so maybe he could build upon that?
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/5188/my-theme-pistation

frgn

@allanbuzzy This theme is also just a modification. And besides, I quickly realized that the result does not satisfy me, so I did not work on it anymore.

Hmm. While writing this message, the idea came to mind - to exclude metadata from the theme. Leave only the list of games, cover, and text with a description of the system.
If this is done, the interface will lose most of the content, and it will seem more laconic. But with this option, any list of games will look the same for all systems. as you know, with metadata there are always problems - some games do not contain any data, and this introduces some visual mess.

would like to hear people's opinion - do you need metadata? (producer, developer, description of the game, rating, genre)

frgn

I'm trying to come up with a new carousel. I found in the network quite a few icons of different systems. unfortunately, their dimensions are not very large, so it does not turn out as well as we would like.

Perhaps it makes sense to make a carousel vertical. But in this case there is a lot of empty space.
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Cybermen

so I find it should have a complete metadata, with (producer, developer, description of the game, rating, genre). I have put a lot of value on it, which is filled with everything and it is also good if you have some information about the game. To the Carousel I find also that it should be vertical, so it makes the most sense, because the background as it is, I find perfect. Because of the icons maybe you could take real graphics? no pixel icons? Maybe like that Bild Text

Thunderbolt

the carousel should be vertical. And the metadata complete.

Thore

I join @cybermen there. With real graphics it looks not so bad. Should times see in the theme, maybe @frgn times you do a test?

frgn

okay. in the near future I will try to make a few drafts. We leave the metadata.

Cybermen

very nice, I'm looking forward

frgn

To make this theme more unique and not similar to NES-MINI, I decided to reduce the scale of the grid. as a result, there was more free space for any changes.
what you see now is just a drawing. I do not give this for the final version, just decided to share and listen to the opinions of users (the criticism is also important).

and I think there will be many such layouts.

Cybermen

I think it looks very good. I like the graphics with the gamepad (1P), the menu below with the metadata is not bad either. Can not judge now whether the area for the cover is too small? It is already a requirement that looks different to the NES-MINI theme. But you're on a good way, very nice work.

Thunderbolt

Wow looks great. Very nice work. How about changing the Megadrive lettering on the upper left against a logo?

Cybermen

After several times I think the cover format is not bad. Since it is more in the width. Since I use these covers is not so bad :-)
Bild Text

ruckage

@frgn

That looks really good, you've done a good job of differing it from my layout and I really like it. My only suggestion would be to change the fonts to ones that more closely match the Playstation (particularly the gamelist).

I get the impression you're not so keen on doing the coding side of theme creation so I would like to make you an offer.
I will write all the xml needed to create the theme based on your mockup, you would just need to provide all of the graphics for it. My only conditions would be that I get a credit for writing the theme code and that the code will be available for other theme creators to use as well, that way it can help other potential theme creators.

Let me know if this sounds good to you, I will need a little time to code everything but it shouldn't take me too long.

frgn

@Cybermen thanks!
and yes, I also use screenshots of games in my metadata, so I decided to change the aspect ratio of md_image.
but keep in mind! in different systems - a different aspect ratio. in the NES 256x224, in megadrive 320x224 and so on. so that the previews look the same for all systems, the screenshot of the game (md_image) will be one layer below the background. but in the background layer, in the place where there should be a preview of the game, there will be a transparent rectangle. Thus, all screenshots will be in the same proportions. and this means that the prefixes to your screenshot (how to properly call them?) with the name of the game, and the image of the box with the game, will hide from sight. in the visible area will be only the screenshot of the game itself.
to be honest, I do not know yet what can be done with this. maybe I'll think of something.

frgn

@ruckage

thanks!

about the fonts - I somehow tried to find a font similar to the one used in the bios menu PSX. the searches were unsuccessful, and I decided to create this font myself. cut out letters from the screenshots of the BIOS. from raster graphics made a vector, from the vector is already the font itself. but the result did not suit me. if interested, here's the link to this font. he, of course, is the same as in the PSX menu, but turned out to be more pixelated. and besides, it seemed to me that he did not fit into the general view of the theme.

on the contrary, writing code for me is not a problem. I was able to understand your confusing topic and make significant changes there. :)
with the rules for coding those with a sign, this is not my first project, so the code is easy.
the only thing I did not understand - why are you setting values in positioning and sizes in this form 0.724333133331333? as it seemed to me, 4 characters after 0 is enough to position anything with an accuracy of 1 pixel. and the second, which I did not understand, if it is really so necessary - how is this calculated? I would have exploded my brain.

my only problem is to come up with something simple and original. when I saw your topic, I understood, here it is! since you released the theme, I tried to make a change. so the result you see was created very long. and even now I'm not sure that this is a complete thing. I'm a bad designer, but it does not stop me from being a perfectionist. I want to do something really cool. and I'm now looking at this layout, and I understand that he still needs some rethinking. and it's only gamelist menu.
with a carousel, I generally have no idea what to do.

I am very willing to accept help, but if it's creating graphics or some valuable ideas.
Thank you for not being left out.

frgn

@thunderbolt
thanks!
what can be changed there? my idea was to make these inscriptions not flat. I looked through the graphics and menu items from pixel games a lot, and came to the decision that I can make the same font for all systems. I applied a light gradient (volumetric, imitation of lighting and highlights) to the text, and I pictured it as if it had been "pressed" into the body of the console. as if it's a design element. if you like, you can call this pixel sceumorphism. :)

if there are any specific wishes and recommendations - then I'm all attention