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    How to map keys 0-9 for SPACE WARS (0.78)

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    • caver01C
      caver01 @mikemolang
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      @mikemolang You should be able to simply press TAB on a connected keyboard to bring up the MAME GUI and follow the menu to map keys for THIS GAME.

      My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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      • jonnykeshJ
        jonnykesh @caver01
        last edited by

        @caver01 The TAB menu doesn't wok for some reason. I tried it. I can't get any key to work in it either apart from player 1 coin.

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        • markwkiddM
          markwkidd @jonnykesh
          last edited by markwkidd

          @jonnykesh said in How to map keys 0-9 for SPACE WARS (0.78):

          @caver01 The TAB menu doesn't wok for some reason. I tried it. I can't get any key to work in it either apart from player 1 coin.

          Can you please describe "doesn't work"?

          For example, does the TAB menu not appear? Does it appear but not function correctly? Will it not allow you to reassign keys? Or does it look like keys are being reassigned, but they reassignments don't function during gameplay? Etc.

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          • jonnykeshJ
            jonnykesh @markwkidd
            last edited by

            It doesn't appear. TAB does nothing. Sorry, should have been clearer.

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @jonnykesh
              last edited by

              @jonnykesh Maybe you're using the lr-mame2003 or other libretro core and they don't map the TAB key ? I don't have a keyboard to test, but I think using advmame the TAB key should definitely work.

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              • markwkiddM
                markwkidd @mitu
                last edited by

                @mitu said in How to map keys 0-9 for SPACE WARS (0.78):

                @jonnykesh Maybe you're using the lr-mame2003 or other libretro core and they don't map the TAB key ? I don't have a keyboard to test, but I think using advmame the TAB key should definitely work.

                The TAB menu normally works in the libretro MAME cores as well.

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                • jonnykeshJ
                  jonnykesh @markwkidd
                  last edited by

                  @markwkidd Definitely trying it on lr-mame2003 I was a bit surprised when it didn't come up. I also tried in advmame 0.94 and again the TAB menu would not come up, Perhaps it's a limitation of the game itself?

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                  • markwkiddM
                    markwkidd @jonnykesh
                    last edited by

                    @jonnykesh said in How to map keys 0-9 for SPACE WARS (0.78):

                    @markwkidd Definitely trying it on lr-mame2003 I was a bit surprised when it didn't come up. I also tried in advmame 0.94 and again the TAB menu would not come up, Perhaps it's a limitation of the game itself?

                    I don't think this problem can be caused by a bad ROM.

                    My suspicion is that this has to do with the way your system is processing input. Can you get into the RetroArch "quick" menu once you have started lr-mame2003?

                    If so, could you check which Input Driver that RetroArch is using?

                    This information can also be gleaned from the retroarch.cfg on your system if it is easier for you to access that file and paste its contents into a service like pastebin.com.

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                    • jonnykeshJ
                      jonnykesh @markwkidd
                      last edited by

                      I have no issues on any other ROMs. It's udev as it is for all my other ROMs. It's no big deal to me, it's not a game I'm overly interested in playing. I just thought I would look at it since OP asked and maybe I could help him out.

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                      • jonnykeshJ
                        jonnykesh
                        last edited by

                        Using the 0.139 ROM in advanceMame 0.94 and 1.4 the TAB menu comes up and the buttons are able to be mapped.

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                        • M
                          mikemolang
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                          @jonnykesh

                          SWEET!!! Thank you so much. Space Wars is the main reason I built a MAME cabinet; to play against my "little" brother. When we were kids we pumped many dollars into this game at "the good arcade" at Seaside. He is coming over with a few others this weekend, and I really want to have this up and running.

                          Using the page:
                          https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/MAME#emulators-advancemame-mame4all-pi-lr-imame4all-lr-mame2003-lr-mame2010

                          I see...
                          AdvanceMAME 0.94
                          MAME 0.94

                          AdvanceMAME 1.4
                          MAME 0.106

                          AdvanceMAME 3
                          MAME 0.106

                          ...and confusion sets in.

                          • I know that newer emulators tend to be more accurate, but slower.
                          • You mentioned that you tested 0.94 and 1.4 using 0.139. Neither list this as the "right" ROM version.

                          I am looking for some advice. I am DL'ing the .106 ROMs as I type, figuring that will let me try 1.4 and 3. Any suggestions to the contrary, or feedback saying this is a good move?

                          Thanks again folks. This was a very helpful assist. I could have spent weeks chasing vague suggestions, but you guys got the facts by testing. Thank you very, very much!!!

                          MML

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                          • jonnykeshJ
                            jonnykesh @mikemolang
                            last edited by

                            @mikemolang It's always best to use the proper ROM for the version of MAME you are using. That's a given. I was really only testing with what I had to hand in the sets I have. You would be best to use advMame 3.5 which is the latest advMame using the 0.106 set. The others seem to have a forced aspect ratio that isn't true.

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                              mikemolang @jonnykesh
                              last edited by

                              @jonnykesh

                              Thank you! Downloading the .106 ROMs now. Will let everyone know how it works out. Any other advice is also welcome.

                              You guys were really great. I did my best reading the README files and following advice already available in the Wiki and Forums, and you guys didn't just spin me back around. You really helped me, and for that I am very grateful. Thank you.

                              Best,
                              MML

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                              • caver01C
                                caver01 @mikemolang
                                last edited by caver01

                                @jonnykesh when the tab menu doesn’t work in lr-mame2003 it is because the mame2003/cfg/default.cfg file is corrupt. Delete it.

                                My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                • jonnykeshJ
                                  jonnykesh @caver01
                                  last edited by jonnykesh

                                  @caver01 Yeah that fixed it but boy that was a pain to find. (I really should read the docs!) I was looking in /opt/retropie/configs/... when it was in /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/mame2003/cfg/ Anyway, thanks.
                                  Though, it still doesn't work in "Space Wars" in lr-mame2003which is really odd. But sure, moving on.

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                                  • caver01C
                                    caver01 @jonnykesh
                                    last edited by

                                    @jonnykesh Still couldn't map the keys? I want to load that ROM now and check it out.

                                    My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                    • jonnykeshJ
                                      jonnykesh @caver01
                                      last edited by

                                      @caver01 Not in Mame2003. The TAB menu just doesn't come up. In mame2010 the TAB menu comes up but is sideways and it won't allow you to map the number keys on a keyboard to the 0-9 functions. Have a look.

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                                      • caver01C
                                        caver01 @jonnykesh
                                        last edited by

                                        @jonnykesh Well, you would have to do quite a few other changes if you start mapping number keys, as the default raw keyboard mapping has 1-8 spoken for already.

                                        Finding available keys might be tricky.

                                        Isn't space war a vector game? It is better suited for AdvanceMAME in that case anyway. Key mapping question still applies, however. I will take a look tonight.

                                        My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                        • caver01C
                                          caver01 @jonnykesh
                                          last edited by

                                          @jonnykesh said in How to map keys 0-9 for SPACE WARS (0.78):

                                          @caver01 Yeah that fixed it but boy that was a pain to find. (I really should read the docs!) I was looking in /opt/retropie/configs/... when it was in /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/mame2003/cfg/ Anyway, thanks.
                                          Though, it still doesn't work in "Space Wars" in lr-mame2003which is really odd. But sure, moving on.

                                          So, were you able to get TAB working in lr-mame2003 or not? This messages seems to imply that you did once you found the right file to delete (sorry, I should have been more explicit about where it was, but it depends on what roms folder people are using). Yet, in a more recent message you are saying again that TAB does not work. Which is it?

                                          I was also wondering, having not looked at this myself yet, whether modifying the controls for THIS GAME in the TAB menu is showing the necessary inputs, or if you have to back out and do it for ALL GAMES (in other words, changing the defaults.

                                          It's too bad these inputs were required to begin with. I remember playing Space Wars as a kid and all of the buttons for gameplay types. I wish it had been built with an on-screen selection instead. Oh well.

                                          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                          • jonnykeshJ
                                            jonnykesh @caver01
                                            last edited by

                                            @caver01 Mame menu is working in all games except Spacewars in 2003.

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